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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #100 on: November 06, 2011, 03:33:49 PM »
Tread lightly guys.  Don't run off our friend, Oregonhawk.

Thought you had ISU yesterday, Oregonhawk.  Improvement!


Improvement would have been beating Iowa State by a couple of TD's.  Our coaching staff is terrible.
You guys lost by like 45 points the week before and got shutout.  Against ISU, it was tight till the very end.  I don't care how you cut it, that is improvement.

KU fans are blinded by Gill hatred.


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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #101 on: November 06, 2011, 03:43:45 PM »
Do you guys have a QB as tough as Collin Klein?  Do you have a WR corps that includes players as good as Chris Harper and Li'l Baby Lockett?  Do you have a special teams unit that clowns opposing teams every week?  Do you have an LB as good as Arthur Brown? 

LOVE this talking point.  "Man, our players are just as good as you guys.  JUST as good.  We just don't have the coaching."  Just as good doesn't give up 59 points two years in a row at home.



Again, I said the same f*cking thing about three or four years ago after KU just prison-raped Ron Prince and Co, 52-21.  For example:


Do you guys have a QB as tough as Todd Reesing?  Do you have a WR corps that includes players as good as Dezmon Briscoe and Kerry Meier?  Do you have a special teams unit that clowns opposing teams every week?  Do you have an LB as good as James Holt?  

LOVE this talking point.  "Man, our players are just as good as you guys.  JUST as good.  We just don't have the coaching."  Just as good doesn't lose three games in a row to KU.



I mean, I said this exact same thing to Terry Pierce like four years ago, and looking back on it, he was right.  He pointed out that the schemes for K-State were awful, and that with a coach like Mangino, KU was able to expose those weaknesses.  Does KU have a Colin Klein right now on the roster?  No, but they've got two pretty highly ranked dual-threat QB's in this recruiting class, and some talented freshmen/sophomores currently on the roster.  Guys like McDougald and Opurum were 4-star recruits with offers to programs like Notre Dame and Ohio State, and played really well in their first year under Mangino.  

All I'm saying is that there's not some huge gap in talent between KU and K-State.  Yeah, you guys have more talent at certain positions and are much better coached, but KU has actually recruited pretty well at certain positions over the past few years.  I mean how can you look at the results between Prince/Mangino and Snyder/Gill and think otherwise?  


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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #102 on: November 06, 2011, 03:46:31 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.
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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #103 on: November 06, 2011, 03:50:50 PM »
Tread lightly guys.  Don't run off our friend, Oregonhawk.

Thought you had ISU yesterday, Oregonhawk.  Improvement!


Improvement would have been beating Iowa State by a couple of TD's.  Our coaching staff is terrible.
You guys lost by like 45 points the week before and got shutout.  Against ISU, it was tight till the very end.  I don't care how you cut it, that is improvement.

KU fans are blinded by Gill hatred.



Texas >>>> Iowa State


The offense has regressed since the start of the season, specifically the QB play.  The defense really had no choice but to improve after giving up 700+ yards to Georgia Tech and getting blown out week after week.  I realize that you guys would prefer Gill to stay at KU forever and kill the football program, but that's not going to happen.  He has one more year at best if "improvement" doesn't start including "wins."  

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2011, 03:51:36 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  K-State wasn't much worse than KU at the time... just not as well-conditioned and not as well-coached.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2011, 03:53:47 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  The only KU talent left playing from '07 is Aqib Talib. 

for the record, i agree that ksu and kstate were about even talent wise in 2008. i still don't know what it has to do with the current talent level of the schools though.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2011, 03:55:22 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  K-State wasn't much worse than KU at the time... just not as well-conditioned and not as well-coached.

2 guys.  Who else?

Better coaching may play pretty significantly into the final score of a game.  For sure.  Probably at least two touchdowns' worth.  But when you give up 59, at home, two years straight, and that 59 could have realistically been more like 79, it also means your players just aren't as good. Sorry.
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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2011, 04:00:58 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  The only KU talent left playing from '07 is Aqib Talib. 

for the record, i agree that ksu and kstate were about even talent wise in 2008. i still don't know what it has to do with the current talent level of the schools though.



A couple questions then:


1.  Do you think recruiting rankings are worthless?

2.  Do you think coaching makes a difference?


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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2011, 04:03:25 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  K-State wasn't much worse than KU at the time... just not as well-conditioned and not as well-coached.

2 guys.  Who else?

Better coaching may play pretty significantly into the final score of a game.  For sure.  Probably at least two touchdowns' worth.  But when you give up 59, at home, two years straight, and that 59 could have realistically been more like 79, it also means your players just aren't as good. Sorry.


K-State just gave up 58 and 52 in back-to-back weeks.  Your defense isn't anything special.  The only real difference from '08 to now is coaching.  Sorry.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2011, 04:15:41 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  The only KU talent left playing from '07 is Aqib Talib. 

for the record, i agree that ksu and kstate were about even talent wise in 2008. i still don't know what it has to do with the current talent level of the schools though.



A couple questions then:


1.  Do you think recruiting rankings are worthless?

2.  Do you think coaching makes a difference?




Not entirely worthless, because they give the fans something to talk about during the offseason.  But once you start playing?  Yeah, they're essentially worthless. 
"walking around mhk and crying in the rain because of love lost is the absolute purest and best thing in the world.  i hope i fall in love during the next few weeks and get my heart broken and it starts raining just to experience it one last time."   --Dlew12

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2011, 04:35:57 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  The only KU talent left playing from '07 is Aqib Talib. 

for the record, i agree that ksu and kstate were about even talent wise in 2008. i still don't know what it has to do with the current talent level of the schools though.



A couple questions then:


1.  Do you think recruiting rankings are worthless?

2.  Do you think coaching makes a difference?



1. no
2. yes

neither has anything to do with a discussion about the disparity of talent between 2011 ku and ksu.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #111 on: November 06, 2011, 05:16:41 PM »
We had nowhere near your talent in 2007.  This is stupid.

P. S. Recruiting stars don't mean crap until they actually do something on the field.  Just ask Marvin Simmons.



Bullsh*t.  Freeman and Nelson are both currently starring in the NFL.  The only KU talent left playing from '07 is Aqib Talib. 

for the record, i agree that ksu and kstate were about even talent wise in 2008. i still don't know what it has to do with the current talent level of the schools though.



A couple questions then:


1.  Do you think recruiting rankings are worthless?

2.  Do you think coaching makes a difference?



1. no
2. yes

neither has anything to do with a discussion about the disparity of talent between 2011 ku and ksu.



I don't see a whole lot of talent disparity outside of QB and maybe a few guys on defense. 


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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2011, 05:57:24 PM »
O-line clowns the fat zit arms in Lawrence

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2011, 06:31:27 PM »
"K-State is in shambles"

"Lew is building a monster"


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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2011, 06:40:32 PM »
Win The NORTH!

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2011, 07:07:41 PM »
we can make it together, you and i

we can teach your people love, if we try

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2011, 10:22:42 PM »
KU clowned us in 2008 because they had much better players.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2011, 10:35:46 PM »
KU clowned us in 2008 because they had much better players.

Seems possible.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2011, 11:10:08 PM »
Beems is in full on panic mode. He's crumbling hard in this thread.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2011, 10:11:24 AM »
ku doesnt have 1 player that would start for us

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2011, 10:36:07 AM »
i call bullshit on Cire's post

Biere, Hawkinson, Zlatnik, Hatch, Johnson, Young all would have a shot
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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2011, 10:47:01 AM »
i call bullshit on Cire's post

Biere, Hawkinson, Zlatnik, Hatch, Johnson, Young all would have a shot

never heard of any of those players.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #122 on: November 09, 2011, 10:47:14 AM »
kstate second string would beat ku.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2011, 10:48:13 AM »
Times are tough for Rock Chalk these days. Times are tough.

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Re: Groupon!
« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2011, 01:04:02 PM »
ku doesnt have 1 player that would start for us

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