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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2011, 09:44:40 AM »
scott van pelt is awful at twitter
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2011, 09:44:54 AM »
Quote from: steve dave on September 02, 2011, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 09:23:14 AM
recruitscoop is great.

sometimes the bad ones are ones I like the most. Like Neal Nieves and Greg Swaim. Terrible analysts/commenters/humans, but I can't get enough of their tweets.

recruitscoop does not eff around at all on twitter.  it's just scoop, after scoop after scoop.  he never promotes himself.  he rarely even promoted his charity basketball game.  and the great thing is, he infuriates every adult in the business while doing it.  

yeah, they hate the 16 year old with a goddam CHARITY BASKETBALL GAME TO HONOR HIS DEAD MOTHER.

He did promote himself when he was featured in both the wall street journal and 60 minutes or something within a week. Oh boy, did that piss off the recruitards.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2011, 09:57:04 AM »
Quote from: Gooch on September 02, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
Jay Mohr is pretty awful on Twitter at life

fyp.

also, as for the new kp feature, check out '08 Dom  :horrorsurprise:
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2011, 11:42:45 AM »
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2011, 11:54:26 AM »
This is nice too: http://kenpom.com/history.php?t=Kansas St.

Much easier to compare year by year with that.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2011, 11:57:17 AM »
Also nice to see player comparos are not racist.

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=10550
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2011, 12:10:52 PM »
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2011, 01:46:24 AM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on September 02, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Also nice to see player comparos are not racist.

http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=10550

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Hated that fat ass, but absolutely would take.  Less fat of course
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2012, 06:06:05 PM »
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2012, 06:07:25 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on December 15, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
kenpom now with his own box scores.

http://kenpom.com/box.php?g=1376

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_fan, you should pm me the kenpom password you use.  then i'd comment more on your kenpom threads.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2013, 09:05:14 AM »
Quote from: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 08:38:16 AM
ken pom is still my hero. Hope he calls out more media this season.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/a_post_about_winning

 :bwpopcorn:

Plus, @kenpomeroy and @BPredict vs @tsnmike and @SethDavisHoops twitter war!

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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 24, 2013, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: michigancat on September 02, 2011, 08:38:16 AM
ken pom is still my hero. Hope he calls out more media this season.

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/a_post_about_winning

 :bwpopcorn:

Plus, @kenpomeroy and @BPredict vs @tsnmike and @SethDavisHoops twitter war!

ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2013, 09:34:18 AM »
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For the most part, I’ve gotten out of the game of sparring with those critical of analytics. I’ve tried to channel my inner Whelliston with a personal mission statement along the lines of “If you don’t like what I do, just go away.” There are enough coaches and media folks using this stuff that the work has been validated, and I get much more enjoyment out of doing research and interacting with people that are interested in it than getting involved in tedious discussions. If the use of analytics somehow makes you enjoy the game less or you feel like it’s voodoo of some sort, no biggie. There’s room for all of us at the college hoops table. You do your thing, I’ll do mine.

(That said, if any coach or media-type unfamiliar with analytics is willing to meet me even a quarter of the way, I’ll gladly spend time trying to help you better understand what we do and how it will help you. I totally get that this stuff doesn’t come naturally to most people.)

(Oh, also, I know you’re saying “What about Goodman?” The thing is, while nobody would say he’s warmed up to analytics, he’s not truly an analytics-hater. Sparring with him doesn’t feel like work.)

However, I’d like to violate my new mission statement for a second.

What an insecure turd, just crunch numbers and shut up
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2013, 09:49:57 AM »
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.

I don't disagree with anything you said about Pomeroy. He's flat out a weird dude, no doubt about that. But so are Davis and DeCoursy.

The value of looking at advanced stats is clear, (and many national media still don't get it), but the weird egos of the advanced stats dudes is also clear.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2013, 09:54:12 AM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 24, 2013, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
ha, I came on to discuss this
_FAN, he's such a thin skinned baby, I don't know how you can deny that. I don't love Davis but he's absolutely right.  Pomeroy just invented beef, I don't know if it was for attention or because he's such a baby that he truly felt "attacked." Seth did nothing to the guy. Ken is no doubt brilliant but he has the greatest need for validation for any cbb media member ever.

I don't disagree with anything you said about Pomeroy. He's flat out a weird dude, no doubt about that. But so are Davis and DeCoursy.

The value of looking at advanced stats is clear, (and many national media still don't get it), but the weird egos of the advanced stats dudes is also clear.

Yes to all of the above. I love when DeCoursey gets all high pitched "Now ^wait^ just a minute Stephen I didn't say that"
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2013, 09:57:22 AM »
Yeah, I frequently  :rolleyes: to Davis and Decoursy.  What's weird is that Davis frequently cites kenpom but Ken used Seth as his mark.  Goodman trashes Pomeroy personally on a frequent basis but Ken is too scared of Goodman to take him on.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2013, 10:00:18 AM »
Quote from: MakeItRain on January 24, 2013, 09:57:22 AM
Yeah, I frequently  :rolleyes: to Davis and Decoursy.  What's weird is that Davis frequently cites kenpom but Ken used Seth as his mark.  Goodman trashes Pomeroy personally on a frequent basis but Ken is too scared of Goodman to take him on.

Yeah, I find all of those interactions very entertaining. Twitter is great for this stuff.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2013, 10:26:47 AM »
They should make Moneyball 2 and feature this saga.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2013, 10:33:00 AM »
Quote from: kougar24 on January 24, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
They should make Moneyball 2 and feature this saga.
There is a couple of NBA teams that have really bought in to the advanced stats, Morey in Houston is the best example but they haven't really won enough.  The NBA is still a league that is dominated by stars at the highest level and officiating has a lot to do with that, imo.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2013, 10:39:53 AM »
Quote from: Gooch on September 02, 2011, 09:21:57 AM
Jay Mohr is pretty awful on Twitter

To be fair to Jay, he's pretty awful everywhere
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2013, 11:36:59 AM »
pomeroy has taken on goodman quite a few times.

these media hacks are jealous that coaches respect kenny.
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2013, 01:45:17 AM »
I think it is time for nicname to get a kenpom subscription
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2013, 01:26:25 PM »
Quote from: nicname on January 25, 2013, 01:45:17 AM
I think it is time for nicname to get a kenpom subscription

Many advanced metrics are available for free

www.kstateupdate.com
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Re: New kenpom feature!
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2013, 12:00:31 PM »
On the topic; is any sports media type worse on twitter than DeCourcy? I suppose there is a reason he writes for the Sporting News.
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