KSTATEOs ask EMAWs why OBz is hated

[W.Churchill]

When has Snyder ever had a top rated or even middle of the pack recruiting class?  We have 10 Jucos for goodness sake, which do not even enter into the rankings.  Look at what Snyder did after Stoops did his best to sabotage us in 1998.  We are going to have a good team this year(predicting 8-4) and a stellar year in 2012.  Unfortunately, there are some reprobates on here when it comes to K-State football.  Look at 2009 and the pile of dung Snyder inherited.  If Grant Gregory didn't have two bad shoulders(which we didn't know about at the time) we probably would have easily won 2 more games and gone 8-4 and a bowl game.  Anyway, my glass is always half full and some you have 90% empty.  Enjoy your pessimism and throwing what you think are cute epithats and I will the enjoy the successful season as it unfolds.

First of all, jucos DO count in recruiting rankings, and have done so for ten years.  When Snyder was on a roll in the nineties, they didn't....and that's when his classes WERE very undervalued, because that's also when he was really cleaning up with the stud jucos....now Alabama and a lot of big time programs are cherry picking that talent pool, which is probably why he has had a much higher miss rate with his juco recruits. 
Second, Snyder's classes in the early 2000's were ranked fairly high. 

[michigancat]

If I was going to invent a sock to hilariously fake defend Snyder, it would be identical to all the Snyder defenders in this thread. I seriously have no idea if someone is really dumb enough believe this crap they're spewing.

[Katpappy]

I'm sure I would appreciate this thread more if I liked to read a lot. 

+1 

[sonofdaxjones]

If K-State is willing to pay a new coach $2 million dollars a year, many good candidates will be interested.   If a REAL coaching search is conducted, K-State will find a good coach.

 

[michigancat]

  If a REAL coaching search is conducted, K-State will find a good coach.

after the decades of wefald, I don't think K-Staters can comprehend a competent coaching search. Even if we don't chase Leach or Rodriguez, there are still multiple competent coaches that would both be an improvement over OB and be interested in the job.

[MadCat]

  If a REAL coaching search is conducted, K-State will find a good coach.

after the decades of wefald, I don't think K-Staters can comprehend a competent coaching search.

I can't wait to see whether Schulz and Currie take advantage of this or if they keep it honest.

[puniraptor]

Is this the right thread for me to start my campaign to hire Jon Gruden as our next legendary head coach? Just tell me if it's not.

[Emo EMAW]

JFC, you people are stealing my thoughts.  Was just thinking about Gruden today.  Would be amazing.

[michigancat]

no, get a recruiter.

[AppleJack]

Gruden would LOL right in our fat faces.

[CNS]

Gruden would LOL right in our fat faces.

Wrong, he wouldn't even take the time. 

[Belvis Noland]

Is there anybody out there that wants a new coach (i.e. Mike Leach), but is actually content with Snyder as our '11-'12 current coach? 

Maybe I'm just lazy, but I have neither the desire nor the passion to write a rough ridin' treatise (see past 2 pages of this thread) about why Snyder is the death knell of this program or university.   

For eff sake, he may suck as a coach and as a person.  He may be old and have an ugly daughter.  But, we've got a pretty decent team this year and we've got a chance to win some games. 

If we go 7-5 or 8-4 and go to another bowl game, I simply can't see much reason to knock the guy.  6-6 or worse and he should be forced to retire, IMO. 

 

[MixBerryCrunch]

Gruden would LOL right in our fat faces.

Wrong, he wouldn't even take the time. 

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

[Belvis Noland]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

[MixBerryCrunch]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipshit puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry rough ridin' time discussing it.

[Dugout DickStone]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Both of those things could occur.

[michigancat]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipshit puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry rough ridin' time discussing it.

many on this board acted the same way with Bob Huggins as we are with Mike Leach. And a lot of dipshits said, "Bob Huggins would never come to KSU, he isn't that good anyway," etc.

[kim carnes]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick rough ridin' Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

[MixBerryCrunch]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick effing Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is respected.  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

I have no doubt that Leach would come here if the money was right. KState will never hire him, or even consider him. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is effing delusional.

[Rage Against the McKee]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick effing Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is respected.  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

I have no doubt that Leach would come here if the money was right. KState will never hire him, or even consider him. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is effing delusional.

If this is true, then John Currie should be fired. I don't think it's true.

[kim carnes]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick effing Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is respected.  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

I have no doubt that Leach would come here if the money was right. KState will never hire him, or even consider him. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is effing delusional.

  Seriously, where are you coming up with this?

[MixBerryCrunch]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Both of those things could occur.

Man, you have really let your hatred for Snyder clout your judgment if you think he would ever leave Sean Snyder in charge. He of all people knows that Sean is incapable of running a football program. He would never do that, he doesn't hate KState football like some ass hats like to believe. If he did he never would have stayed in the nineties....I swear people on this board are like effing lemmings. One dude says something and the rest of you just bob your head in agreement. "OBz sucks" "Sean Snyder is HCIW" "Fire Snyder, Hire Leach" If some of you had an original thought I bet this effing board would implode.

[Bookcat]

if there never was a LHC Bill Snyder...who there be a goEMAW.com?

[MixBerryCrunch]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick effing Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is respected.  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

I have no doubt that Leach would come here if the money was right. KState will never hire him, or even consider him. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is effing delusional.

  Seriously, where are you coming up with this?

Common Sense. They're would have been some rumblings by now if Mike Leach was on their radar. He's been out of a job and on the market for over a year now and not a peep. WTF would they be waiting for? If they wanted him they would be worried someone else would make an offer and he would be gone. Besides If Currie wanted a former above average disgraced coach he would have gone after Leavitt.

[Dr Rick Daris]

JFC can you people come up with a Head Coach that is reasonable or someone who isn't Mike effing Leach? How about Dale Lennon or Ken Niumatalolo both are very promising and probably a crap ton easier to get than Jon Gruden.

I love this new wave of posters.  Very angry.  I look forward to basketball season. 

Not angry, just a bit annoyed with the total unoriginality of this board. It's like someone said "You know who's available...Mike leach. We should go after him." And now everyone just regurgitates his name whenever talking about future coaches, until someone spews out some completely effing respected name like Jon Gruden. It's like Im listening to a bunch of dipcrap puppets that are being worked by the same hand. Wake up call, assholes, Mike Leach is never coming to KState and Sean Snyder will never be the head coach so quit bitching about both. And if you want to talk about future coaches then name some that are at least reasonable so we can all have a merry effing time discussing it.

Listen here a-hole, how the eff do you know Mike Leach would never come to K-State?  He isn't Nick effing Saban.  I agree with you that anyone who thinks Gruden would come here is respected.  I'm not even sure why anyone would want Gruden to come here, he would do terrible at a place like K-State.

I have no doubt that Leach would come here if the money was right. KState will never hire him, or even consider him. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise is effing delusional.

  Seriously, where are you coming up with this?

Common Sense. They're would have been some rumblings by now if Mike Leach was on their radar. He's been out of a job and on the market for over a year now and not a peep. WTF would they be waiting for? If they wanted him they would be worried someone else would make an offer and he would be gone. Besides If Currie wanted a former above average disgraced coach he would have gone after Leavitt.

you were doing pretty decent until you compared leach to leavitt. good lord. stop while you're ahead. dumbass.