Author Topic: KSTATEOs ask EMAWs why OBz is hated (Read 28253 times)

steve dave · « **Reply #25 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:43:36 PM »

Quote from: Trim on August 06, 2011, 01:39:34 PM

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 01:02:47 PM
Why so much anomousity towards Coach Snyder? Many on here can't rid of him fast enough. All he has done is perform at K-State, been loyal and got a very good 2011 recruiting class. Don't you think he knows when it is time to retire?

How much would you donate to BBBS for a signed 8x10 photo of OBz with a message about good grades to a youngster?

lol

KSUsteve13 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Coley on August 05, 2011, 09:40:24 PM

Why does everyone hate/seem to hate him on here?

I DONT KNOW!?

steve dave · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:48:49 PM »

I love LHC Bill Snyder but I wish he wasn't our coach. He doesn't want what's best for us.

ConcordiaEMAW · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:55:24 PM »

When has Snyder ever had a top rated or even middle of the pack recruiting class? We have 10 Jucos for goodness sake, which do not even enter into the rankings. Look at what Snyder did after Stoops did his best to sabotage us in 1998. We are going to have a good team this year(predicting 8-4) and a stellar year in 2012. Unfortunately, there are some reprobates on here when it comes to K-State football. Look at 2009 and the pile of dung Snyder inherited. If Grant Gregory didn't have two bad shoulders(which we didn't know about at the time) we probably would have easily won 2 more games and gone 8-4 and a bowl game. Anyway, my glass is always half full and some you have 90% empty. Enjoy your pessimism and throwing what you think are cute epithats and I will the enjoy the successful season as it unfolds.

AppleJack · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2011, 01:59:48 PM »

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 01:55:24 PM

When has Snyder ever had a top rated or even middle of the pack recruiting class? We have 10 Jucos for goodness sake, which do not even enter into the rankings. Look at what Snyder did after Stoops did his best to sabotage us in 1998. We are going to have a good team this year(predicting 8-4) and a stellar year in 2012. Unfortunately, there are some reprobates on here when it comes to K-State football. Look at 2009 and the pile of dung Snyder inherited. If Grant Gregory didn't have two bad shoulders(which we didn't know about at the time) we probably would have easily won 2 more games and gone 8-4 and a bowl game. Anyway, my glass is always half full and some you have 90% empty. Enjoy your pessimism and throwing what you think are cute epithats and I will the enjoy the successful season as it unfolds.

Finally, someone said it.

ConcordiaEMAW · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:00:31 PM »

Yeah, I want Gary Patterson because he has such a good personality. The guy's an introvert but I guess he can coach or maybe he can get good assistants.

pike · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:03:06 PM »

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 02:00:31 PM

Yeah, I want Gary Patterson because he has such a good personality. The guy's an introvert but I guess he can coach or maybe he can get good assistants.

And he wins BCS bowls all the time

PowercatPat · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:05:23 PM »

LOL at thinking our 2011 class is "very good".

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:33:19 PM »

Quote from: PowercatPat on August 06, 2011, 02:05:23 PM

LOL at thinking our 2011 class is "very good".

Go back to the gopowerespect site and see the post about HCBS keeping Cosh because this is the best job he will ever get again and Snyder won't fire him, and you will understand. Cosh's inability to adjust cost us the Baylor and Colorado games last year. Vic seemed to do just find with the pile of dung he was left, but HCBS managed to run him off after 1 year.

Panjandrum · « **Reply #34 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:33:41 PM »

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 01:55:24 PM

When has Snyder ever had a top rated or even middle of the pack recruiting class? We have 10 Jucos for goodness sake, which do not even enter into the rankings. Look at what Snyder did after Stoops did his best to sabotage us in 1998. We are going to have a good team this year(predicting 8-4) and a stellar year in 2012. Unfortunately, there are some reprobates on here when it comes to K-State football. Look at 2009 and the pile of dung Snyder inherited. If Grant Gregory didn't have two bad shoulders(which we didn't know about at the time) we probably would have easily won 2 more games and gone 8-4 and a bowl game. Anyway, my glass is always half full and some you have 90% empty. Enjoy your pessimism and throwing what you think are cute epithats and I will the enjoy the successful season as it unfolds.

kostakio · « **Reply #35 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:34:52 PM »

Quote from: PowercatPat on August 06, 2011, 02:05:23 PM

LOL at thinking our 2011 class is "very good".

It might be decent who knows. On paper it looks pretty good to me compared to a lot of classes we have brought in and at least they all made it to campus. We finally landed some d-lineman and a good looking dual threat QB.

I'm not one to say recruiting rankings are worthless but when damn near every player is rated 3 stars how do you really gauge recruiting rankings from one team to the next? Our class sucks compared to TX or OU but it doesn't look much different from a lot of the rest of the teams in the league. KU's class was suppossed to be so good but why because they signed two smallish 4 star RB's? Brock Berglund probably never plays a snap, they had one kid quit already, others don't qualfy. We're just getting started and that ranking is out the window. Hell per rivals two of our highest rated highschool recruits are grey shirts and are not even really in this class that shows you how worthless the rankings are.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:40:56 PM »

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 02:00:31 PM

Yeah, I want Gary Patterson because he has such a good personality. The guy's an introvert but I guess he can coach or maybe he can get good assistants.

I hate what HCBS stands for because people like you make posts like this. The guy just won the effing Rose Bowl and you complain about his personality. The HC has a responsibility to do whatever it takes to win as many games as possible, yet he chooses to keep Cosh in charge of the defense because Cosh is part of the family.

chum1 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:50:33 PM »

let's run the negative nancys out of here. we outnumber them badly. invite your pro-snyder friends to goEMAW.com.

Pete · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:54:58 PM »

Snyds was great. To me, he's EXACTLY like Blockbuster, Inc.

He changed the business, kicked ass and took names.

...then....things changed. It wasn't him, necessarily...it was the world. The competitors were doing things he was either incapable of doing or, worse, unwilling.

He can still "perform," but he's not special anymore. No "better" than the other "best," and probably just "good." But, he's probably the best we can get in our little town without Wifi and no McDonalds Redbox.

_33 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 06, 2011, 02:59:18 PM »

Recruiting rankings don't matter because for instance Texas went 5-7 last year.

Pete · « **Reply #40 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:00:23 PM »

I don't "hate" Snyder....but if you were going to, the number one reason (maybe the only good reason), is that he's never fired an assistant coach, and hasn't hired one of exceeding quality since before 2003.

He seems willing to just surround himself with cronies and people who will stay at their desk the requisite amount of time. It's harder work to mentor and train young, talented, AC's than it is to just close the door to your office and poor over film by yourself for 8 more hours a night. He's taking the EASY way out...

THAT is the truth.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #41 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:07:26 PM »

Quote from: ConcordiaEMAW on August 06, 2011, 01:02:47 PM

Why so much anomousity towards Coach Snyder? Many on here can't rid of him fast enough. All he has done is perform at K-State, been loyal and got a very good 2011 recruiting class. Don't you think he knows when it is time to retire?

his history of already having retired and then coming out of retirement to take the exact same job that he had previously retired from a few years earlier would lead any rational thinking human to believe that the answer to you question is no.

steve dave · « **Reply #42 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:07:42 PM »

he's also doing everything in his power to make sure Sean, who has never held down a job in his life, is our next hc. that's another reason.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #43 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:22:11 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on August 06, 2011, 03:07:42 PM

he's also doing everything in his power to make sure Sean, who has never held down a job in his life, is our next hc. that's another reason.

And some actually commend Sean for pushing his dad back into coaching, as if Sean had no motives at all.

_33 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:28:08 PM »

Here are my reasons:

He's 22-25 in his last 4 seasons.
His staff is awful.
He refuses to fire members of his staff who have proven to be awful.
He hired his completely unqualified son to become a member of an already unqualified staff.
We finished dead last in the 2011 conference recruiting rankings.
He ruined any chance we had to hire a good, young coach when he decided to come out of retirement.
He's not fun or interesting to listen to.
He is a short term band-aid when we are in need of a long term solution.
It appears as if he is trying to maneuver Sean into position to be our next HC.
He doesn't do anything innovative, different, or exciting in regards to any aspect of the football program. (I also hate the fact that everyone thinks this is a good thing since Prince tried it and it didn't work)
The clause in his contract where he gets paid for the rest of his life to assist the AD or whatever.
Tate has an athletic scholarship.

There are more. But I'm too upset right now.

michigancat · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:30:42 PM »

I hate that he won't change our uniforms.

michigancat · « **Reply #46 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:31:54 PM »

It's really hard to be the guy that follows 'The Guy". We had that guy fired and were ready to hire the guy that follows the guy that follows "The Guy".

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #47 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:34:00 PM »

Hey, enjoy being miserable 24/7 losers.

It's better to be delusional and happy, than to completely recognize you suck and be miserable all the time.

Thank you.

pike · « **Reply #48 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:36:01 PM »

It nags at me every day that we could have had Gary Patterson......Gary rough ridin' Patterson.

We would be entering his THIRD rough ridin' year, too. It would have been real progress, a real long term solution.

steve dave · « **Reply #49 on:** August 06, 2011, 03:37:40 PM »

Quote from: pike on August 06, 2011, 03:36:01 PM

It nags at me every day that we could have had Gary Patterson......Gary rough ridin' Patterson.

We would be entering his THIRD rough ridin' year, too. It would have been real progress, a real long term solution.

mike leach would be on the first jet to MHK if we offered him