just for the record, there seem to be multiple persons who are more than willing to spend a large amount of time on a kstate message board discussing the merits of 19year old atheletes, baiting ku fans, making socks, raiding other boards, discussing meat goats/ood/ftb/katpaks/paks/etc. but these same people draw a firm line in the sand at trying to use the internet to meet people they might be attracted to. pretty sure in the grand scheme of things, one of these is a little weirder than the other. let me know when you fellas figure it out.