We're rich!

[OregonSmock]

Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU. 


 

ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red.   WEF was $4 million in the red.  

How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's? 

You idiots are really not getting much for your money.

Two schools have won a national title and BCS Bowl in the same year:  Kansas and Florida


 

[CNS]

It doesn't, but you seem to forget (like you always do) that over the last 3 years, ku's athletic revenues have plummeted, and now if it weren't for a significant influx of direct support from the school and student fees, they would be operating at a loss.

Yet another free fall for ku.

It's called a recession.  

Mean while KSU's ath budget has increased record amts.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, that's what has caused the situation at ku, a "recession".

From 2008, to the worst athletic program in the Big 12 3 years later . . .  yet another free fall for ku.

[OregonSmock]

It doesn't, but you seem to forget (like you always do) that over the last 3 years, ku's athletic revenues have plummeted, and now if it weren't for a significant influx of direct support from the school and student fees, they would be operating at a loss.

Yet another free fall for ku.

It's called a recession.  

Mean while KSU's ath budget has increased record amts.

...and yet, it's still ~$20 million less than KU's.  

[OregonSmock]

Yeah, that's what has caused the situation at ku, a "recession".

From 2008, to the worst athletic program in the Big 12 3 years later . . .  yet another free fall for ku.

Worst athletic program in the Big 12?  How many other Big 12 athletic programs have seven straight Big 12 titles (in one of the two main revenue sports)?  How many Big 12 trophies did K-State add to the trophy case last year?


     

[sonofdaxjones]

Take out student fees and institutional support in FY 2010.

KU Athletics Net Revenues:  (2.5 million)  

K-State Athletics Net Revenues:  $10 million.

[WillieWatanabe]

Yeah, that's what has caused the situation at ku, a "recession".

From 2008, to the worst athletic program in the Big 12 3 years later . . .  yet another free fall for ku.

Worst athletic program in the Big 12?  How many other Big 12 athletic programs have seven straight Big 12 titles (in one of the two main revenue sports)?  How many Big 12 trophies did K-State add to the trophy case last year?


    

lol oh wow.

[Dugout DickStone]

Fans like Ben are the reason they have the worst athletic dept in the conf. 

[OregonSmock]

Fans like Ben are the reason they have the worst athletic dept in the conf. 

How many Big 12 titles did K-State win last year?  It's a simple question. 

[sonofdaxjones]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

[CHONGS]

This isn't about K-State.

[Bookcat]

Only ~$20 million more until you're as rich as KU. 


 

ku needed every dime of the student fees and direct support from the school to avoid finishing the 2009-2010 school year over $2.5 million in the red.   WEF was $4 million in the red.  

How does that change the fact that KU's athletic budget is roughly $20 million more than K-State's? 

You spend that much more to get yur faces slammed 59-7. lmao

[Dugout DickStone]

Fans like Ben are the reason they have the worst athletic dept in the conf. 

How many Big 12 titles did K-State win last year?  It's a simple question. 

See?  Clinging to one half of one sport is why the ku AD sucks so incredibly bad.

[OregonSmock]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

[CNS]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

[OregonSmock]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

[sonofdaxjones]

Missouri's budget is about $62 million.

$3.5 million of ku's budget comes from direct support and student fees.

Based on the numbers, I doubt we read Manchurian AD announce anytime soon that ku athletics is weaning itself off of student fees and direct support, they can't afford to do it right now.

 

[wildcat1979]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

[OregonSmock]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit? 

[wildcat1979]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit? 

So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program?  High five.

[OregonSmock]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit? 

So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program?  High five.

KU's basketball program is elite.  The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago.  The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years.  We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour.  Multiple olympic athletes in track.  What does K-State have?  A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die? 

[WillieWatanabe]

[Stevesie60]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit? 

So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program?  High five.

KU's basketball program is elite.  The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago.  The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years.  We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour.  Multiple olympic athletes in track.  What does K-State have?  A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die? 

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/jul/05/jayhawks-last-big-12-directors-cup/

[kim carnes]

None.

But from top to bottom ku was the worst overall athletic department in the Big 12.

The only reason you don't care is because the Phognet talking point is to claim you only care about Football and Basketball. 

If things had been reversed, then the Ben talking point would be how "Lew is building a monster".

I went to a few baseball games while I was in school at KU, but I really only cared about two sports:  football and basketball. 


 

Your ath budget cares about much more.  not sure you can argue very effectively for/against your ath budget if you don't understand it.

Our athletic department generates more revenue in men's basketball than some schools do in football, which is why the budget is so high compared to schools like K-State and Mizzou.

That's funny, because I don't see you guys in this article...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2011/7/4/2258683/half-of-big-12-among-the-top-20-most-profitable-division-i-athletic

Do you understand the difference between an athletic department's budget and an athletic department's profit? 

So you have a higher budget, make less profit, and can turn out one decent program?  High five.

KU's basketball program is elite.  The football program just won a BCS Bowl a few years ago.  The baseball/softball programs have a Big 12 title in the last few years.  We've got a golfer on the PGA Tour.  Multiple olympic athletes in track.  What does K-State have?  A mediocre football program with a head coach that's about to die? 

JFC you are embarrassing

[sonofdaxjones]

Last out of all Big 12 schools in the Learfield Directors Cup, Last in the Big 12 All-Sports Standings.

2 Conference wins in football the last 2 years, and one was garnered against a team and in a game where it was determined that the other team could have gone to a knee on every single offensive snap in the 4th qtr and still won the game.