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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2011, 10:25:45 AM »
i guess the stuff isn't that expensive (maybe around $200) but to do it right (meaning without mrs sd wanting to kill you because you just dropped a carboy full of crap all over her carpet), you want a decent sized garage to work in.



I was shooting for an unfinished basement with a good floor drain.  Would it smell up the house?
If you want to do it indoors, you prolly should do it electrically and will prolly need 240V outlets. It also costs a little more to do electric although I think it would pay off long run because electricity is cheaper than propane.

Total cost is hard to say, totally depends on what you want to do. Extract or All Grain? Willing to do stuff yourself? Gas or Electric? Those three things will narrow it down.

BTW, I'd suggest going all grain. I started out with extract and supposedly it shouldn't matter, in my experience and with talking to others, all grain typically comes out better. WIlling to bet that extract is what most people tried when they didn't like it, not to mention the brewer probably kind of sucked.

ok, say electric and all grain.  how much?

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2011, 11:55:52 AM »
I could spend an enormous amount of time and energy to brew a beer that isn't half as good as a Saison Du Pont...or I could spend 5 minutes driving to the liquor store to buy one.

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All of you could just sit back and watch me message board instead of wasting your time pounding out your sub par posts but you all seem to get some sort of enjoyment out of it.  Who am I to judge.

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2011, 02:32:52 PM »
I could spend an enormous amount of time and energy to brew a beer that isn't half as good as a Saison Du Pont...or I could spend 5 minutes driving to the liquor store to buy one.

:dubious:

All of you could just sit back and watch me message board instead of wasting your time pounding out your sub par posts but you all seem to get some sort of enjoyment out of it.  Who am I to judge.

 :dubious:
opportunity cost
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2011, 02:34:04 PM »
I could spend an enormous amount of time and energy to brew a beer that isn't half as good as a Saison Du Pont...or I could spend 5 minutes driving to the liquor store to buy one.

:dubious:

All of you could just sit back and watch me message board instead of wasting your time pounding out your sub par posts but you all seem to get some sort of enjoyment out of it.  Who am I to judge.

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opportunity cost

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2011, 06:45:31 PM »
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2011, 07:02:24 PM »
Classic SD:
-Ask a question
-get an expert on the board to give him all the insider info
-Hem and haw over the answer for a day or two
-not say anything in the thread for awhile
-decide to do nothing
-live in omaha

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2011, 03:12:45 PM »
i guess the stuff isn't that expensive (maybe around $200) but to do it right (meaning without mrs sd wanting to kill you because you just dropped a carboy full of crap all over her carpet), you want a decent sized garage to work in.



I was shooting for an unfinished basement with a good floor drain.  Would it smell up the house?
If you want to do it indoors, you prolly should do it electrically and will prolly need 240V outlets. It also costs a little more to do electric although I think it would pay off long run because electricity is cheaper than propane.

Total cost is hard to say, totally depends on what you want to do. Extract or All Grain? Willing to do stuff yourself? Gas or Electric? Those three things will narrow it down.

BTW, I'd suggest going all grain. I started out with extract and supposedly it shouldn't matter, in my experience and with talking to others, all grain typically comes out better. WIlling to bet that extract is what most people tried when they didn't like it, not to mention the brewer probably kind of sucked.

ok, say electric and all grain.  how much?
I'm gonna assume you're not incompetent with tools. There are many ways to skin this cat, but this will do. This is also pretty close to what I use.

2 x 15.5 gallon kegs. Usually can find some on CL for $25-50 each. You would turn it into a "keggle". Google it to see what I mean. A cutoff wheel makes it pretty easy.

1 cooler for mash tun (I use 70 qt Coleman like this one. http://brewing.lustreking.com/gear/mashtun.html I use a manifold instead of the strainer he uses. ) I think it's like $35 or something.

1 fermenter. I use the 13 gallon vittles vault here. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=23730&catid=818&clickid=searchresults It's HDPE plastic and supposedly air-tight. Mine isn't air tight though, but still works and lets me ferment 10 gallon batches. 'Bout $40.

Then it depends on if you want to keg or bottle. I prefer kegging, but bottling requires less equipment. I'll assume you keg.

X amount of cornelius or "corny" kegs (old soda kegs). Go with ball lock. Usually you can get them around $25-30 each. They each hold 5 gallons.

Old fridge for kegerator. Dunno say $50 off CL, more depending on how nice you want it.

Faucet for kegerator ~$35 each if you get a nice stainless forward sealing faucet like a perlick or vent-a-matic.

Toss in another $50 for valves hoses, etc.

Look for a CO2 container, 5# minimum, on CL. I got a 20# for $35.

Regulator, $50 or so, not sure got mine as a gift.

Turkey fryer. About $35 used.

So that's about $500 total. You can always go cheaper and still do just as good. For instance, if you never want to do 10 gallon batches, you can find a used big aluminum pot instead of a stainless keg. Then you would use a smaller cooler. You could also bottle and use bottles you save from the liquor store. Just buy a capper.

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2011, 08:11:09 PM »
ok, say electric and all grain.  how much?
I'm gonna assume you're not incompetent with tools.

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2011, 09:55:58 PM »
ok, say electric and all grain.  how much?
I'm gonna assume you're not incompetent with tools.

:lol:
after his basement thread I kind of knew it might be a stretch, but I have faith in a motivated SD. the motivated part is prolly a bigger stretch than anything
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2011, 08:07:17 AM »
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2011, 02:51:34 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2011, 02:59:56 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)
It would eventually pay off. When I first started I kept track of how much I spent on everything from equipment to ingredients. At the time, I think I was going to have to brew around 100 gallons to break even. This was comparing prices to Bud Light. Since then, I've bought more equipment, but I also won't buy Bud Light, so I think it would still be around 100 gallons for a break even point. It's all savings after that though.

I'm a natural DIYer though
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2011, 03:03:50 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)

I don't think it's legal, which is bull crap.

But there's still plenty of stuff you can buy online for distilling.

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2011, 03:06:26 PM »
now do meth

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2011, 03:24:41 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)
It would eventually pay off. When I first started I kept track of how much I spent on everything from equipment to ingredients. At the time, I think I was going to have to brew around 100 gallons to break even. This was comparing prices to Bud Light. Since then, I've bought more equipment, but I also won't buy Bud Light, so I think it would still be around 100 gallons for a break even point. It's all savings after that though.

I'm a natural DIYer though
Can you brew something as delicious as Saison Du Pont?

I can't imagine NOT buying any beer, even if I did brew my own. Do you still purchase any beer?
« Last Edit: August 09, 2011, 03:27:25 PM by Saulbadguy »
Where did you get that overnight bag?

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2011, 03:34:11 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)
It would eventually pay off. When I first started I kept track of how much I spent on everything from equipment to ingredients. At the time, I think I was going to have to brew around 100 gallons to break even. This was comparing prices to Bud Light. Since then, I've bought more equipment, but I also won't buy Bud Light, so I think it would still be around 100 gallons for a break even point. It's all savings after that though.

I'm a natural DIYer though
Can you brew something as delicious as Saison Du Pont?

I can't imagine NOT buying any beer, even if I did brew my own. Do you still purchase any beer?
I've never had Saison Du Pont, but not a huge fan of many Belgian beers. You can brew good beer without super difficulty. I've had home brew from others that was easily on par with store bought stuff. I would rate my beer typically around 8 if store bought is a 10.

I still buy my own beer because I like a lot of variety and only have 3 beers on tap.
Some home brewers have something like 12 on tap. If I ever get that much variety, I doubt I'd go to the liquor store for much besides whiskey.
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2011, 03:36:15 PM »

So that's about $500 total.



Yeah, that makes $7 or $8 bucks a sixer at the liquor store seem like a pretty good deal.

However, I would love for a similar break down on distilling your own spirits (Is this still illegal?)
It would eventually pay off. When I first started I kept track of how much I spent on everything from equipment to ingredients. At the time, I think I was going to have to brew around 100 gallons to break even. This was comparing prices to Bud Light. Since then, I've bought more equipment, but I also won't buy Bud Light, so I think it would still be around 100 gallons for a break even point. It's all savings after that though.

I'm a natural DIYer though
Can you brew something as delicious as Saison Du Pont?

I can't imagine NOT buying any beer, even if I did brew my own. Do you still purchase any beer?
I've never had Saison Du Pont, but not a huge fan of many Belgian beers. You can brew good beer without super difficulty. I've had home brew from others that was easily on par with store bought stuff. I would rate my beer typically around 8 if store bought is a 10.

I still buy my own beer because I like a lot of variety and only have 3 beers on tap.
Some home brewers have something like 12 on tap. If I ever get that much variety, I doubt I'd go to the liquor store for much besides whiskey.
What do you have on tap at this moment?
Where did you get that overnight bag?

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2011, 03:36:44 PM »
+1 to what's on tap.  also, what other varieties do you brew?

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #68 on: August 09, 2011, 03:38:04 PM »
Having your own beer on tap is pretty elite.  :kstategrad:

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #69 on: August 09, 2011, 03:41:41 PM »
Can you reduce the cost if you bottle?
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2011, 03:42:11 PM »
Having your own beer on tap is pretty elite.  :kstategrad:

Not if it is bad.


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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2011, 03:43:49 PM »
Having your own beer on tap is pretty elite.  :kstategrad:

Not if it is bad.



But what if it's amazing  :love:

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2011, 03:57:20 PM »
In order of questions:

I've got a stout and regular ale. The regular ale was going to an american pale ale but it came out under hopped. Still tastes pretty good IMO, just wasn't what I originally wanted. The third tap is unused at the moment. I'll probably do an IPA or redo the pale with more hops.

I brew whatever I want at that time moment. One style to the next isn't typically harder than the other when it comes to ales. Lagers need to be fermented at cooler temps so I don't do those.

You can reduce the cost if you bottle.
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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2011, 04:27:10 PM »
Having your own beer on tap is pretty elite.  :kstategrad:

Not if it is bad.



Says the guy who likes boulevard wheat  :lol:

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Re: home-brewing
« Reply #74 on: August 09, 2011, 04:34:55 PM »
Having your own beer on tap is pretty elite.  :kstategrad:

Not if it is bad.



Says the guy who likes boulevard wheat  :lol:

My god....

I mean, where are you right now???

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