does col-klein run option well?

[fatty fat fat]

i don't rememer from last year. he seemed to do well on the qb draw more than anything else.

 

[Gooch]

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[jtksu]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

[chum1]

They call him The Chamber.  Pretty cool nickname.

[DQ12]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

If we can construct an offense in which Carson Coffman, who had limited arm strength, to say the least, had a high passing efficiency, I would hope that we can do the same with The Chamber.

Last year, the running game definitely opened up the passing game, which allowed CCQ to make a lot of easy passes.  I don't think the Chamber has quite the accuracy that CCQ had, but hopefully his arm strength allows us to utilize the passing game in a more vertical way, rather than the more "horizontal" way, in which CCQ was proficient.

[jtksu]

Not sure how much arm strength CK has.  He short arms the ball pretty bad.  Course, it won't take much to have a better arm than CCQ.  Also important- not throwing every out route straight into the turf.

[DQ12]

Not sure how much arm strength CK has.  He short arms the ball pretty bad.  Course, it won't take much to have a better arm than CCQ.  Also important- not throwing every out route straight into the turf.

After watching the spring game (which admittedly, is pretty shaky evidence), The Chamber at least has the capacity to make a 40-45 yard throw downfield.  I don't even remember K-State attempting that kind of vertical game last season.

[The Manhatter]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse.  as long as he has decent accuracy and makes good decisions we'll move the ball.  Hard to contend with a 220lb speed back and a 235lb QB that can break tackles.  Looked to have pretty decent footspeed (4.6ish) on that long TD run vs. KU.

[jtksu]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse.  as long as he has decent accuracy and makes good decisions we'll move the ball.  Hard to contend with a 220lb speed back and a 235lb QB that can break tackles.  Looked to have pretty decent footspeed (4.6ish) on that long TD run vs. KU.

I think we'll be pretty good on offense.  Oline should be fine, RB and WR is rough ridin' stacked.  CK just has to be mediocre and we'll score quite a bit.  Defense though....

[jtksu]

Not sure how much arm strength CK has.  He short arms the ball pretty bad.  Course, it won't take much to have a better arm than CCQ.  Also important- not throwing every out route straight into the turf.

After watching the spring game (which admittedly, is pretty shaky evidence), The Chamber at least has the capacity to make a 40-45 yard throw downfield.  I don't even remember K-State attempting that kind of vertical game last season.

He threw a few balls short that kinda hinted at a bit of a weak arm.  (I think Malone came under and picked one on the far sideline that was really poorly thrown.)  Also, during the SG, the QBs are able to step into their throws better than they typically would be able to during live action.  I don't think he has a weak arm, I just think it's not great.  I think we may still be able to stretch the field like Nubb has done in the past, (with guys like Crouch, Frost, Frazier, etc) when the D is forced to focus on the run game and lets a man get behind the D.  Also, it seems like we've typically had big gains more on YAC than pure arm strength.  (Obviously, the years with Bish and Freems don't apply here.)

[kougar24]

fatty didn't ask if Calvin Klein could run, he asked if Calvin Klein could run the option well, and the answer from last year is "no."

why? because he pitches like a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Emo EMAW]

Not sure how much arm strength CK has.  He short arms the ball pretty bad.  Course, it won't take much to have a better arm than CCQ.  Also important- not throwing every out route straight into the turf.

It only took Roberson two years to stop doing that.

[KITNfury]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse.  as long as he has decent accuracy and makes good decisions we'll move the ball.  Hard to contend with a 220lb speed back and a 235lb QB that can break tackles.  Looked to have pretty decent footspeed (4.6ish) on that long TD run vs. KU.

I think we'll be pretty good on offense.  Oline should be fine, RB and WR is rough ridin' stacked.  CK just has to be mediocre and we'll score quite a bit.  Defense though....

I'm not convinced at all that the O-line will be fine. Charlie gives me some hope though.

[kstate4life]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse.  as long as he has decent accuracy and makes good decisions we'll move the ball.  Hard to contend with a 220lb speed back and a 235lb QB that can break tackles.  Looked to have pretty decent footspeed (4.6ish) on that long TD run vs. KU.

I think we'll be pretty good on offense.  Oline should be fine, RB and WR is rough ridin' stacked.  CK just has to be mediocre and we'll score quite a bit.  Defense though....

I'm not convinced at all that the O-line will be fine. Charlie gives me some hope though.

Talked to my source (equip manager) that watches practices every day.  Says Klein is getting "too good" for Sams to make a run at him this year.  Also says Klein's deep ball is "money", and he is worried we won't have enough protection for him to throw it.

[cas4ksu]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse. 

dark horse.

[Clevey 2 Times]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse.  as long as he has decent accuracy and makes good decisions we'll move the ball.  Hard to contend with a 220lb speed back and a 235lb QB that can break tackles.  Looked to have pretty decent footspeed (4.6ish) on that long TD run vs. KU.

I think we'll be pretty good on offense.  Oline should be fine, RB and WR is effing stacked.  CK just has to be mediocre and we'll score quite a bit.  Defense though....

I'm not convinced at all that the O-line will be fine. Charlie gives me some hope though.

Talked to my source (equip manager) that watches practices every day.  Says Klein is getting "too good" for Sams to make a run at him this year.  Also says Klein's deep ball is "money", and he is worried we won't have enough protection for him to throw it.

Talked with my source in Manhattan, who admittedly has not watched as many practices as the equip manager, but is a football coach...says CK's deep ball is shaky, so much so that he tends to check down even when WR's are open deep. Just lacks confidence in the deep ball. Maybe this has improved?

I think Carson, as sad as this makes me to admit it, has a better arm than CK.

[kougar24]

i talked to a source this past weekend who told me in no uncertain terms that we will suck yet again at quarterback this fall.

[The Manhatter]

CK runs just fine and he's a big dude like a Bishop or a Beasley.  It's just whether or not he can throw worth a crap.  He had big numbers at the SG but his throwing motion is pretty damn ugly.

the kid is a quarter horse. 

dark horse.

BLACK BEAUTY!!!

[cas4ksu]

i talked to a source this past weekend who told me in no uncertain terms that we will suck yet again at quarterback this fall.

my source said that was unconfirmed. boom.

[jtksu]

My source says Koug's source has Down's.  Boom, Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)!

[Bookcat]

watched the KSU vs. UT torrent yesterday.

Klein is nails. all we need to know. 

[kougar24]

My source says Koug's source has Down's.  Boom, respected!

link?!

[felix rex]

My source says Koug's source has Down's.  Boom, respected!

ha

[Branson Bound]

I was impressed with Colin last year. He seems like a fine young man who will lead our team by example both on and off the field. I cannot wait to see the results of his offseason.

Is anybody else getting football fever? It won't be long, now, guys!

[Panjandrum]

Not sure how much arm strength CK has.  He short arms the ball pretty bad.  Course, it won't take much to have a better arm than CCQ.  Also important- not throwing every out route straight into the turf.

He has a tight release.  That's true.  His throwing motion looks more like he's trying to throw a dart, but the resulting throw isn't that bad.  Average zip, average placement, and average release speed.  There's nothing about his passing that makes you cringe other than the fact that it's ugly.

As most others mentioned, his effectiveness as a passer will be heightened by his ability to run the football.