took a stab at what I think the defensive front 7 might appear..

[The Manhatter]

going into a game 1.

A few things.  A poke fan poster came on GPC claiming to be Hunter Davis' bro-in-law.  Said Hunter's up around 270 now (not fat)...he played around 255-260 last fall.  The kid is already as big as Beisel was as a senior and runs just as well.  Ian Seau played last fall around 250-255.  I believe these two will play this year as they are ready physically and are gifted in their ability to burst and run.  IMO Klein moves to LB..I think his skills are better suited there and he runs really well.  I placed Darryl Blackmon in the strongside DE depth position but I see him as redshirting and possibly moving to OT.  I believe Allred stays on the DL and starts at nose.  I placed in bold all of the new bodies available for this year (also bolded kids who redshirted last year as well).  

LDE or "strongside DE"
Brandon Harold 6-5 270 RJr - or -
Adam Davis 6-0 260 RJr
Darryl Blackmon 6-7 285 Jr - or -
Laton Dowling 6-2 255 RFr
Maquel Bryant 6-3 230 Fr


NT or "0-1 technique"
Jordan Allred 6-3 305 RJr
Vai Lutui 6-2 285 Jr
Lamonte Clark 6-4 320 Fr
Javonte Boyd 6-2 300 RJr


DT or "3 technique"
Ray Kibble 6-4 305 Sr - or -
Bo Tillman 6-5 280 Jr
Ralph Guidry 6-4 290 RSr
Payton Kirk 6-5 270 RSr
Sam Harvill 6-1 270 Fr


RDE or "weakside DE"
Meshak Williams 6-2 245 Jr
Jordan Voelker 6-3 250 Sr - or -
Ian Seau 6-3 260 Fr - or -
Hunter Davis 6-4 270 Fr


Sam LB
Tre Walker 6-3 220 Soph
Kyle Klein 6-4 230 Fr
Mike Moore 6-1 225 Fr


Mike LB
Arthur Brown 6-1 230 RJr
Alex Hrebec 5-11 240 RSr
Cody Marley 5-11 235 RFr


Will LB
Emmanuel Lamur 6-4 225 RSr
*Jarrell Childs 6-2 220 RJr - or -
Blake Slaughter 5-10 230 Jr
Tate Snyder 5-11 225 RFr


* - knee injury in spring.  no word as to how long he might be out.

[_33]

I wish Blake Slaughter was good. I thought he would be good.

[WillieWatanabe]

cautiously optimistic.

[DQ12]

going into a game 1.

A few things.  A poke fan poster came on GPC claiming to be Hunter Davis' bro-in-law.  Said Hunter's up around 270 now (not fat)...he played around 255-260 last fall.  The kid is already as big as Beisel was as a senior and runs just as well.  Ian Seau played last fall around 250-255.  I believe these two will play this year as they are ready physically and are gifted in their ability to burst and run.  IMO Klein moves to LB..I think his skills are better suited there and he runs really well.  I placed Darryl Blackmon in the strongside DE depth position but I see him as redshirting and possibly moving to OT.  I believe Allred stays on the DL and starts at nose.  I placed in bold all of the new bodies available for this year (also bolded kids who redshirted last year as well).  

LDE or "strongside DE"
Brandon Harold 6-5 270 RJr - or -
Adam Davis 6-0 260 RJr
Darryl Blackmon 6-7 285 Jr - or -
Laton Dowling 6-2 255 RFr
Maquel Bryant 6-3 230 Fr


NT or "0-1 technique"
Jordan Allred 6-3 305 RJr
Vai Lutui 6-2 285 Jr
Lamonte Clark 6-4 320 Fr
Javonte Boyd 6-2 300 RJr


DT or "3 technique"
Ray Kibble 6-4 305 Sr - or -
Bo Tillman 6-5 280 Jr
Ralph Guidry 6-4 290 RSr
Payton Kirk 6-5 270 RSr
Sam Harvill 6-1 270 Fr


RDE or "weakside DE"
Meshak Williams 6-2 245 Jr
Jordan Voelker 6-3 250 Sr - or -
Ian Seau 6-3 260 Fr - or -
Hunter Davis 6-4 270 Fr


Sam LB
Tre Walker 6-3 220 Soph
Kyle Klein 6-4 230 Fr
Mike Moore 6-1 225 Fr


Mike LB
Arthur Brown 6-1 230 RJr
Alex Hrebec 5-11 240 RSr
Cody Marley 5-11 235 RFr


Will LB
Emmanuel Lamur 6-4 225 RSr
*Jarrell Childs 6-2 220 RJr - or -
Blake Slaughter 5-10 230 Jr
Tate Snyder 5-11 225 RFr


* - knee injury in spring.  no word as to how long he might be out.

I wish Meshak was heavier, right?

[The Manhatter]

I wish Meshak was heavier, right?

Meshak has a few things going for him...brute strength and long arms.  Dude was benching about 450 this spring at 235lbs..he's one of the strongest on the team.  sure, you would like to see him put some meat on his lower half but he'll still be a good player.  Florida State had a 230lb DE last year get 14 sacks and he wasn't a 4.4 type guy either.

[PoetWarrior]

Lamonte,

You can do it, with help.

[The Manhatter]

cautiously optimistic.

I would classify myself as optimistically cautiously optimistic.

This is the best trio of starting LBs since 2005 w/ Reggie, Diles, and Archer.  I think it will be our best DL or at least has the potential to be the best DL we've had since 2004.  Now that defense wasn't great but it wasn't because of the DL.  

My hope is that Darious Thomas rejoins the team in the fall.  He's still in the white pages while others who left the team are no longer in them.  I think it's possible his academic suspension had less to do w/ grades and possibly more to do w/ what happened w/ Josh Moore.  When that occurs I believe you are suspended for two semesters.  Anyway, if he rejoins the team you could see Thomas and Chapman as the starting corners w/ Garrett moved back to safety w/ Zimmerman.  That secondary has a shot at being pretty solid IMO.  

[PoetWarrior]

Other than Arthur, Darious is the best we've got.

We will wait for you Darious.

[The Manhatter]

Other than Arthur, Darious is the best we've got.

We will wait for you Darious.

if you saw some of the shirtless photos Meshak used to have up on his f-book you would amend that statement.  promise.

[WillieWatanabe]

god bless you The Manhatter

[Kat Kid]

cautiously optimistic.

I would classify myself as optimistically cautiously optimistic.

This is the best trio of starting LBs since 2005 w/ Reggie, Diles, and Archer.  I think it will be our best DL or at least has the potential to be the best DL we've had since 2004.  Now that defense wasn't great but it wasn't because of the DL.  

My hope is that Darious Thomas rejoins the team in the fall.  He's still in the white pages while others who left the team are no longer in them.  I think it's possible his academic suspension had less to do w/ grades and possibly more to do w/ what happened w/ Josh Moore.  When that occurs I believe you are suspended for two semesters.  Anyway, if he rejoins the team you could see Thomas and Chapman as the starting corners w/ Garrett moved back to safety w/ Zimmerman.  That secondary has a shot at being pretty solid IMO.  

aaaaaand that is depressing.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Looks like we finally have some depth, with a little talent sprinkled in, in the front 7.

Count me in as  :powerespect: for this team.  Pretty sure we're gonna score lots of points again.

[jtksu]

We should score a bunch.  If this defense can just be mediocre we should have a solid season.

[Kat Kid]

We should score a bunch.  If this defense can just be mediocre we should have a solid season.

Why do you say things like this?  Why do remain happy about the state of K-State football?

[wiley]

cautiously optimistic.

I would classify myself as optimistically cautiously optimistic.

This is the best trio of starting LBs since 2005 w/ Reggie, Diles, and Archer.  I think it will be our best DL or at least has the potential to be the best DL we've had since 2004.  Now that defense wasn't great but it wasn't because of the DL.  

My hope is that Darious Thomas rejoins the team in the fall.  He's still in the white pages while others who left the team are no longer in them.  I think it's possible his academic suspension had less to do w/ grades and possibly more to do w/ what happened w/ Josh Moore.  When that occurs I believe you are suspended for two semesters.  Anyway, if he rejoins the team you could see Thomas and Chapman as the starting corners w/ Garrett moved back to safety w/ Zimmerman.  That secondary has a shot at being pretty solid IMO.  

aaaaaand that is depressing.

Scariest part is they all had a cup of tea in the NFL.  I thought out side of Diles they were insanely untalented (Archer) or under preformed (Reggie).

[jtksu]

Didn't Archer play in the league?

[jtksu]

We should score a bunch.  If this defense can just be mediocre we should have a solid season.

Why do you say things like this?  Why do remain happy about the state of K-State football?

Because I'm a fan of the KSU Wildcats and I'm not a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)? 

[Kat Kid]

Didn't Archer play in the league?

Career history

    Indianapolis Colts (2007)*
    Minnesota Vikings (2007)*
    Indianapolis Colts (2007)
    Denver Broncos (2008)*
    Indianapolis Colts (2008)*
    Washington Redskins (2008)*

    *Offseason and/or practice squad member only

[jtksu]

I actually missed the part of Wiley's post about a cup of tea.  Still, if you think a dude that spends time on practice squads or whatever is extremely untalented, I question your ability to judge talent.

[Kat Kid]

I actually missed the part of Wiley's post about a cup of tea.  Still, if you think a dude that spends time on practice squads or whatever is extremely untalented, I question your ability to judge talent.

I said nothing about talent.  Let alone "extremely untalented".  But go ahead and continue to destroy "extremely untalented."  Should be a pretty satisfying argument with yourself.

[jtksu]

Wasn't talking to you.  And I guess the quote was "insanely untalented."  My bad.  Butthurt noted.

[The Manhatter]

cautiously optimistic.

I would classify myself as optimistically cautiously optimistic.

This is the best trio of starting LBs since 2005 w/ Reggie, Diles, and Archer.  I think it will be our best DL or at least has the potential to be the best DL we've had since 2004.  Now that defense wasn't great but it wasn't because of the DL.  

My hope is that Darious Thomas rejoins the team in the fall.  He's still in the white pages while others who left the team are no longer in them.  I think it's possible his academic suspension had less to do w/ grades and possibly more to do w/ what happened w/ Josh Moore.  When that occurs I believe you are suspended for two semesters.  Anyway, if he rejoins the team you could see Thomas and Chapman as the starting corners w/ Garrett moved back to safety w/ Zimmerman.  That secondary has a shot at being pretty solid IMO.  

aaaaaand that is depressing.

Scariest part is they all had a cup of tea in the NFL.  I thought out side of Diles they were insanely untalented (Archer) or under preformed (Reggie).

Actually Diles is currently with the Texans and Reggie is with the Cardinals.  I guess I'm struggling with how they were bad players at KSU and manage to stay on NFL rosters for 3 years (Reggie) and 5 years (Diles)?  Archer wasn't insanely untalented, either.  You do realize there are other players on the defense so 3 players don't make up for the other 8?

[Branson Bound]

These kids are gonna pop some pads this year!

[jtksu]

I think Diles was even the starter last year, though that was due to what's his name (Cushing?) being suspended.

[hemmy]

I think the question we should be asking is...do we have any LBs this year who jump when they sack the QB?