Dalonte

[chum1]

frank actually approached turgeon and offered him hill.

[CHONGS]

not 100% sure this is a positive development

i'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.

i am leaning 75% negative right now.

I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?

that and/or the fear that as soon as Hill lands back in MD he will begin pulling in 4/5*s which firmly places his lack of recruiting success at the feet of Frank and KSU, which ultimately means that the program has hit its peak.

Am I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?

hill leaving won't be that big of a deal.  but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.

if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.

to be honest, your opinions on most matters are worthless so I don't read them.  

*reads the above repost*

yep, I was right to ignore them the first time

[CHONGS]

not 100% sure this is a positive development

it's just the ownership bias talking.  if martin wanted to retain hill, he would have.

i guess, i am worried about his replacement

its more an appearances thing than anything else

[Gooch]

Lon Floyd should be happy about this. (stands in the back nodding his head approvingly)

[catzacker]

Am I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?

hill leaving won't be that big of a deal.  but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.

if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.

he couldn't get them to come to ksu anymore because of his boss, not his location.  maryland wasn't keeping the local talent for the same reason.  hopefully the blood clot moves its way up.*


*probably over the line

[sys]

i guess, i am worried about his replacement

its more an appearances thing than anything else

appearances don't matter (aside from maybe providing some threads worth reading on rival big 12 boards).  martin's strength is how well he gets along with other coaches, and how plugged in he is to their little secret coaching society.  he'll hire well.

[The Whale]

Opens the door for Oppenheimer to turn down Frank a second time.

[chum1]

Frank actually told Delonte that he could do his job better at Maryland and encouraged him to go.

[CHONGS]

i guess, i am worried about his replacement

its more an appearances thing than anything else

appearances don't matter (aside from maybe providing some threads worth reading on rival big 12 boards).  martin's strength is how well he gets along with other coaches, and how plugged in he is to their little secret coaching society.  he'll hire well.

I guess we'll see how connected he is with this hire.

i think i know that appearance isn't that important, but when the (highest?) paid assistant coach takes a pay cut and a lateral move it doesn't make me think "hey this is a positive development for this program". (moving home be-damned)

[WillieWatanabe]

goddamnit, i was all going to support Chingon, then sys made a good point. I'm on the fence. I've been down on Frank lately, for whatever reason...so i might ride the "this sucks" train.

[OregonSmock]

I think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.

K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels).  You guys are f*cked.  

[catzacker]

frank = bill


no one wants to work for him.    maybe next time frank won't cuss 'te out for handing him a soda instead of a water.

[catzacker]

I think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.

K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels).  You guys are f*cked.  

it's sad that you think samuels is our second best player or that he really is.

[chum1]

Frank actually spoonfed Scott Van Pelt secret info about Dalante.

[OregonSmock]

I think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.

K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels).  You guys are f*cked.  

it's sad that you think samuels is our second best player or that he really is.

Samuels and McGruder are your top two returning scorers/rebounders.  They are your two best returning players, without question.

[Cire]

More harm than good.  Frank will hire a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[catzacker]

I think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.

K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels).  You guys are f*cked.  

it's sad that you think samuels is our second best player or that he really is.

Samuels and McGruder are your top two returning scorers/rebounders.  They are your two best returning players, without question.

at ksu, we don't count players as returning until the first tip of the first game.  until then they're possible transfers,  thank you very much.  

[catzacker]

More harm than good.  Frank will hire a respect.

looking down the bench, you're probably right.  i  mean, underwood and figgs?  sprads and russell (T.I.P.).

[kougar24]

not 100% sure this is a positive development

i'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.

i am leaning 75% negative right now.

I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?

that and/or the fear that as soon as Hill lands back in MD he will begin pulling in 4/5*s which firmly places his lack of recruiting success at the feet of Frank and KSU, which ultimately means that the program has hit its peak.

Am I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?

hill leaving won't be that big of a deal.  but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.

if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.

to be honest, your opinions on most matters are worthless so I don't read them.  

*reads the above repost*

yep, I was right to ignore them the first time

[DoDRepeat]

he's at chipotle right now eating with some dude from southside stength & fitness and that little bald headed guy on staff. He was still wearing a kstate shirt. Sounded like the fitness guy was giving a pitch? Weird stuff for dalonte to be doing right now..

[PoetWarrior]

  players are more enjoyable to watch play basketball.

[wetwillie]

What are some names that should start circulating for the open job?  It might be respected of me but the idea of going and getting another AAU guy that is attached to a high level '12 recruit would excite me.

[yoga-like_abana]

whos the newer, hotter model 'te 420k we can hire?

[kso_FAN]

I have a feeling the new model will look a lot more like Figs than a new version of Te.

[The1BigWillie]

ART "rough ridin'" ALVAREZ come on down!!!