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Quote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:53:57 PMQuote from: wetwillie on May 17, 2011, 12:47:06 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:37:03 PMQuote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.i am leaning 75% negative right now.I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?that and/or the fear that as soon as Hill lands back in MD he will begin pulling in 4/5*s which firmly places his lack of recruiting success at the feet of Frank and KSU, which ultimately means that the program has hit its peak.Quote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 10:49:24 AMQuote from: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 07:48:09 AMQuote from: nicname on May 17, 2011, 01:50:20 AMAm I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?hill leaving won't be that big of a deal. but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.
Quote from: wetwillie on May 17, 2011, 12:47:06 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:37:03 PMQuote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.i am leaning 75% negative right now.I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?that and/or the fear that as soon as Hill lands back in MD he will begin pulling in 4/5*s which firmly places his lack of recruiting success at the feet of Frank and KSU, which ultimately means that the program has hit its peak.
Quote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:37:03 PMQuote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.i am leaning 75% negative right now.I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?
Quote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.i am leaning 75% negative right now.
Quote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.
not 100% sure this is a positive development
Quote from: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 07:48:09 AMQuote from: nicname on May 17, 2011, 01:50:20 AMAm I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?hill leaving won't be that big of a deal. but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.
Quote from: nicname on May 17, 2011, 01:50:20 AMAm I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?hill leaving won't be that big of a deal. but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.
Am I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?
Quote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmentit's just the ownership bias talking. if martin wanted to retain hill, he would have.
i guess, i am worried about his replacementits more an appearances thing than anything else
Quote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 01:07:55 PMi guess, i am worried about his replacementits more an appearances thing than anything elseappearances don't matter (aside from maybe providing some threads worth reading on rival big 12 boards). martin's strength is how well he gets along with other coaches, and how plugged in he is to their little secret coaching society. he'll hire well.
I think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.
Quote from: KITNfury on May 17, 2011, 12:49:48 PMI think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels). You guys are f*cked.
Quote from: OregonHawk on May 17, 2011, 01:20:02 PMQuote from: KITNfury on May 17, 2011, 12:49:48 PMI think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels). You guys are f*cked. it's sad that you think samuels is our second best player or that he really is.
Quote from: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 01:21:06 PMQuote from: OregonHawk on May 17, 2011, 01:20:02 PMQuote from: KITNfury on May 17, 2011, 12:49:48 PMI think 'Te was way underperforming. I don't care how much we were paying him either way. I just want somebody pulling in good talent, he mostly wasn't doing that anymore. If Frank hires a dud or nobody at all, 'Te leaving is a negative. If he hires someone who recruits better, then it's a positive. How this move is ultimately graded is on Frank's shoulders.K-State's two best players next season are Dalonte recruits (McGruder and Samuels). You guys are f*cked. it's sad that you think samuels is our second best player or that he really is.Samuels and McGruder are your top two returning scorers/rebounders. They are your two best returning players, without question.
More harm than good. Frank will hire a respect.
Quote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:57:21 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:53:57 PMQuote from: wetwillie on May 17, 2011, 12:47:06 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:37:03 PMQuote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: Chingon on May 17, 2011, 12:32:52 PMnot 100% sure this is a positive developmenti'm not 100% sure either, but I definitely think the odds are good that it's not a negative development at this point.i am leaning 75% negative right now.I'm assuming you think Frank will do something stupid like spread out the money te made to figs and undy and hire another florida community college head coach?that and/or the fear that as soon as Hill lands back in MD he will begin pulling in 4/5*s which firmly places his lack of recruiting success at the feet of Frank and KSU, which ultimately means that the program has hit its peak.Quote from: kougar24 on May 17, 2011, 10:49:24 AMQuote from: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 07:48:09 AMQuote from: nicname on May 17, 2011, 01:50:20 AMAm I wrong in saying that if Hill leaves KSU that it isn't really that big of a deal?hill leaving won't be that big of a deal. but when he starts getting kids from dca to go to maryland, the logical conclusion of why that would happen will/should be.if people actually melt down over him being able to get DC kids to stay home and go to Maryland when he couldn't get them to come to K-State, they're respected.to be honest, your opinions on most matters are worthless so I don't read them. *reads the above repost*yep, I was right to ignore them the first time