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« Reply #1325 on: May 16, 2013, 03:31:49 PM »
Stats: 26.3 PPG, 5.9 APG, 4.8 RPG, 1.9 SPG, 3.7 TO, 44.9 FG%, 37.4 3P%, 23.8 PER, 38.5 MPG

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Re: NBA Playoffs Thread
« Reply #1327 on: May 16, 2013, 03:37:56 PM »
I think this just comes down to categorization of what makes an "A" player. I define it as the top 2 or 3 (the upper 5% or 10%) players at their position in the league.  I'd categorize James Harden at that level as a SG.

I disagree, because its possible to not have 2-3 legit A players at a position.

Can you name a position where that isn't the case?

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« Reply #1328 on: May 16, 2013, 03:42:16 PM »
I don't think there's any centers I'd want to build a franchise around.

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« Reply #1329 on: May 16, 2013, 03:43:22 PM »
I don't think there's any centers I'd want to build a franchise around.

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« Reply #1330 on: May 16, 2013, 03:43:43 PM »
I don't think there's any centers I'd want to build a franchise around.

Is Kevin Love a Center to you?

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« Reply #1331 on: May 16, 2013, 03:47:01 PM »
I don't think there's any centers I'd want to build a franchise around.

Is Kevin Love a Center to you?

Yeah, but I'm not sure I'd want to build a franchise around him. I'll admit I'd forgotten about him. (Playing 73 games over two seasons will do that).

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Re: NBA Playoffs Thread
« Reply #1332 on: May 16, 2013, 03:50:15 PM »
Center is a dead position in the NBA now. It's a guard's league

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« Reply #1333 on: May 16, 2013, 03:50:47 PM »
Yeah, dominant centers seem to be a thing of the past. Shaq was the last one that you could really build around.

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« Reply #1334 on: May 16, 2013, 04:39:41 PM »
I don't know if the center is a thing of the past. We are only 4 years removed from the Orlando Magic making it to the finals with a healthy and completely dominate Dwight Howard. David Lee was pretty damn close to averaging a double double this year, and Kevin Love is a force when he is playing the game. Obviously health concerns is a huge issue with any of those players and for all Centers, but I don't think we have seen the last of superstar big men. In fact, I still think Howard is a legitimate "build around" guy.

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« Reply #1335 on: May 16, 2013, 05:14:08 PM »
I don't know if the center is a thing of the past. We are only 4 years removed from the Orlando Magic making it to the finals with a healthy and completely dominate Dwight Howard. David Lee was pretty damn close to averaging a double double this year, and Kevin Love is a force when he is playing the game. Obviously health concerns is a huge issue with any of those players and for all Centers, but I don't think we have seen the last of superstar big men. In fact, I still think Howard is a legitimate "build around" guy.

Yeah, I don't think the position is dead. I just don't think I would build a team around Dwight Howard at this point, (or David Lee, ever).

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« Reply #1336 on: May 16, 2013, 05:19:01 PM »
I don't know if the center is a thing of the past. We are only 4 years removed from the Orlando Magic making it to the finals with a healthy and completely dominate Dwight Howard. David Lee was pretty damn close to averaging a double double this year, and Kevin Love is a force when he is playing the game. Obviously health concerns is a huge issue with any of those players and for all Centers, but I don't think we have seen the last of superstar big men. In fact, I still think Howard is a legitimate "build around" guy.

Yeah, I don't think the position is dead. I just don't think I would build a team around Dwight Howard at this point, (or David Lee, ever).

I also think that the "build around" idea is missing the ship given the current circumstances of the nba. It's become pretty clear that you can't take a team to the finals without building around 2 or more players on your team. Just look at what teams are remaining or will be remaining in their conference finals.

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« Reply #1337 on: May 16, 2013, 05:23:01 PM »
What happened to those Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Daughetry types?  It's not like their roles have changed and they're just no longer prominently featured, a la NFL workhorse running backs.  It's like they have just ceased to exist.

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« Reply #1338 on: May 16, 2013, 05:25:16 PM »
What about Adam Davis? Is he someone you guys would build around?

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« Reply #1339 on: May 16, 2013, 05:34:04 PM »
What happened to those Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Daughetry types?  It's not like their roles have changed and they're just no longer prominently featured, a la NFL workhorse running backs.  It's like they have just ceased to exist.

shaq changed the way the low block was officiated, which led to bigger stronger players. highlights of the old days are kind of hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiiDafT-5YA

I mean most of the post ups are ridiculously deep with little to no contact. The guys you mentioned would just get shoved out of the lane and rendered ineffective today.

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« Reply #1340 on: May 16, 2013, 07:07:02 PM »
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« Reply #1341 on: May 16, 2013, 08:51:41 PM »
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« Reply #1342 on: May 16, 2013, 09:47:48 PM »
I think underveloped skills is probably the biggest component.  This article gives a couple good reasons for it, such as "no kid wants to be a low post player." The amount of talk about needing a center to win a championship is always so baffling.

http://m.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/05/the-mystery-of-the-disappearing-nba-center/257204/

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« Reply #1343 on: May 16, 2013, 09:57:22 PM »
well, a strong pivotman is important


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« Reply #1344 on: May 16, 2013, 11:12:53 PM »
I think underveloped skills is probably the biggest component.  This article gives a couple good reasons for it, such as "no kid wants to be a low post player." The amount of talk about needing a center to win a championship is always so baffling.

http://m.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/05/the-mystery-of-the-disappearing-nba-center/257204/

lol, just a bunch of old farts yearning for the good old days. And lol at Jerry West.

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« Reply #1345 on: May 17, 2013, 11:04:55 AM »
I think you can still build a team around a big man, but you just aren't going to see many dominant centers like Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwan, etc. like we did in the past. The Spurs built a dynasty around Tim Duncan, who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game, and I could see a team doing that again in the future.

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« Reply #1346 on: May 17, 2013, 11:10:34 AM »
I think you can still build a team around a big man, but you just aren't going to see many dominant centers like Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwan, etc. like we did in the past. The Spurs built a dynasty around Tim Duncan, who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game, and I could see a team doing that again in the future.
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« Reply #1347 on: May 17, 2013, 11:13:56 AM »
I think you can still build a team around a big man, but you just aren't going to see many dominant centers like Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwan, etc. like we did in the past. The Spurs built a dynasty around Tim Duncan, who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game, and I could see a team doing that again in the future.
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« Reply #1348 on: May 17, 2013, 11:20:35 AM »
I think you can still build a team around a big man, but you just aren't going to see many dominant centers like Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwan, etc. like we did in the past. The Spurs built a dynasty around Tim Duncan, who is the greatest power forward to ever play the game, and I could see a team doing that again in the future.
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« Reply #1349 on: May 17, 2013, 11:21:10 AM »
It was pretty sad to see the Warriors go last night
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