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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2011, 03:06:38 PM »
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2011, 03:11:41 PM »
Utah State's current 22 game winning streak is the 6th longest since 1963.

It is, also, the 8th longest since 1980

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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 03:13:44 PM »
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 03:19:36 PM »
Utah State's current 22 game winning streak is the 6th longest since 1963.

It is, also, the 8th longest since 1980

They've won 8 in a row.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 03:21:15 PM »
Utah State's current 22 game winning streak is the 6th longest since 1963.

It is, also, the 8th longest since 1980

They've won 8 in a row.

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You're probably right...

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 03:24:48 PM »
Utah State's current 22 game winning streak is the 6th longest since 1963.

It is, also, the 8th longest since 1980

They've won 8 in a row.

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You're probably right...

Guys, default to EllIII on this one.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2011, 07:35:51 PM »
i need to watch more, but from what i saw, they're very sloppy with the ball.  pretty sloppy period.  spacing, risky passes, etc.  not at all the stereotype you might have.

anyways, i'd bet kstate turns them over 10+ times in the first half.  they'll tighten up as the game goes on, and kstate's pressure will invariably slack off.  so it'd be nice to use the first half to build a cruise-home sized lead.


they aren't great shooters either, outside of one keiton page-sized dude.  so you can do a lot defensively with help and pressure without too much risk.
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2011, 07:41:28 PM »
i need to watch more, but from what i saw, they're very sloppy with the ball.  pretty sloppy period.  spacing, risky passes, etc.  not at all the stereotype you might have.

anyways, i'd bet kstate turns them over 10+ times in the first half.  they'll tighten up as the game goes on, and kstate's pressure will invariably slack off.  so it'd be nice to use the first half to build a cruise-home sized lead.


they aren't great shooters either, outside of one keiton page-sized dude.  so you can do a lot defensively with help and pressure without too much risk.

Yeah, I think we could have a significant advantage in forcing turnovers. Again, similar to how we did in both games against Nebraska.

I am most concerned about Kelly/Samuels foul problems. I do think Wesley is a pretty good player as well as the white Jam-Sam.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2011, 07:45:58 PM »
How is their point guard, he small and jake usually gives small point guards trouble right after the time line, would be nice if we could keep them out of their offense.

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2011, 07:50:20 PM »
How is their point guard, he small and jake usually gives small point guards trouble right after the time line, would be nice if we could keep them out of their offense.

He should have problems with Jake's defense.

And I know he was heavily criticized after CU, but this could be a great match-up for 95 as well.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2011, 07:59:11 PM »
I am most concerned about Kelly/Samuels foul problems. I do think Wesley is a pretty good player as well as the white Jam-Sam.

i agree with that.  i actually thought the other big, bendall, looked pretty solid as well.  i just think our guards will completely overmatch theirs.


dunno, i need to see more.  it's just that they looked completely shook up by boise state's pressure.  and kstate's pressure is a lot better than boise state's.
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2011, 08:01:45 PM »
In the St. Mary's game, USU's offense in the second half was get the ball to Tai. I think if we do solid job on him (under his season average) we should handle these guys.

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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2011, 08:05:57 PM »
Yeah, seeing Boise State's pressure really bother them makes it hard to not be overconfident. Boise State is a pretty average team, just athletic really.

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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2011, 08:43:55 PM »
Went from  :ohno: to  :driving: after reading all the HBBIQ in this tread.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2011, 08:45:55 PM »
we're bigger and can outrebound them.

Get them tired and frustrated then send in the doberman's in the second half. Nab the 50/50 balls and this one is ours.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2011, 09:19:12 PM »
i need to watch more, but from what i saw, they're very sloppy with the ball.  pretty sloppy period.  spacing, risky passes, etc.  not at all the stereotype you might have.

anyways, i'd bet kstate turns them over 10+ times in the first half.  they'll tighten up as the game goes on, and kstate's pressure will invariably slack off.  so it'd be nice to use the first half to build a cruise-home sized lead.


they aren't great shooters either, outside of one keiton page-sized dude.  so you can do a lot defensively with help and pressure without too much risk.

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Watching just the first half of the game against Boise it seems as if they rely heavily on the post. I feel fairly comfortable thinking that assuming we stay out of foul trouble, our bigs can contain theirs.  Outside of Green, they can't really shoot.   :driving:
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2011, 09:24:47 PM »
Watching just the first half of the game against Boise it seems as if they rely heavily on the post. I feel fairly comfortable thinking that assuming we stay out of foul trouble, our bigs can contain theirs.  Outside of Green, they can't really shoot.   :driving:

I agree in part, but Newbold and Williams are streaky and still shoot over 35% each. It is fair to say both have struggled for the most part for the last few weeks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one of those 2 have a solid shooting game.  For sure can't lose the Page-ish kid.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2011, 09:30:00 PM »
Utah State has 3 fifth year seniors who put on the magic underwear and went on year long fishing trips.   Could be troubs.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2011, 09:31:15 PM »
How is their post D, would be nice if we get their bigs in foul trouble, would love to see kelly go to work. I think this could be are largest advantage.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2011, 09:33:47 PM »
5 out the 6 experts on ESPNU's panel picked Utah State.

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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2011, 09:39:09 PM »
I watched what video I could find of them and the game plan seems simple. Do to them what Colorado did to us. Run Pullen, Peterson, Mcgruder, Kelly, and JO. Have Pullen and Peterson dribble drive and look to kickout. I think Kelly can defend their good forward and JO can just stand under the basket with his hands strait up. Feed Kelly the ball and try to get their forwards in foul trouble.
KSU is longer and more athletic and them having no guards that can penatrate, we should be able to play in your face man to keep their spot shooters guarded.
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2011, 09:40:14 PM »
Watching just the first half of the game against Boise it seems as if they rely heavily on the post. I feel fairly comfortable thinking that assuming we stay out of foul trouble, our bigs can contain theirs.  Outside of Green, they can't really shoot.   :driving:

I agree in part, but Newbold and Williams are streaky and still shoot over 35% each. It is fair to say both have struggled for the most part for the last few weeks, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one of those 2 have a solid shooting game.  For sure can't lose the Page-ish kid.

Fair enough. Another thing I noticed was that they played that sort of matchup zone.  _Fan is this something they have played in all of the games that you have watched?  It didn't seem to be all that effective against bsu...again though that was just the first half.
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2011, 09:49:46 PM »
Fair enough. Another thing I noticed was that they played that sort of matchup zone.  _Fan is this something they have played in all of the games that you have watched?  It didn't seem to be all that effective against bsu...again though that was just the first half.

Yes, the weird zone is common and I think we'll see it.  I can see where it could give teams problems because it is pretty unorthodox, but I think we could exploit it pretty bad. I can see ball reversals leading to penetration lanes for Pullen.

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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2011, 09:53:48 PM »
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Utah State is 6-21 (.222) in its NCAA tournament history. Its 19 appearances are the most of any member of the Western Athletic Conference. In recent years, the team has won invitations to the tournament in 1998 (under coach Larry Eustachy), 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2010 (all under Morrill). Prior to 2006, all of these invitations were a result of winning the Big West Conference tournament. In both 2006 and 2010, the Aggies received an at-large bid to the tournament after losing in the WAC tournament championship game.

 :surprised:  Doesn't seem to fit the Utah image.


These assclowns haven't won a post season game in a decade (NIT included).  Not sure why they're so butthurt over the 12 seed.  They did make the Elite 8 in 1970. :thumbsup:
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Re: Utah State Aggies
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2011, 10:00:28 PM »
These assclowns haven't won a post season game in a decade (NIT included).  Not sure why they're so butthurt over the 12 seed.  They did make the Elite 8 in 1970. :thumbsup:

This is a good point, Morrill does a great job tearing up whatever league they have been in, but he's won 1 post season game in his career. You would've thought he would've won some games in the NIT with his teams, but he hasn't.  He's 1-14 in his coaching career in NIT/NCAA tournament games.
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