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Goodman on Pullen
« on: March 01, 2011, 03:09:30 PM »
sorry if this has been posted...
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-upsets-texas-jake-pullen-has-wildcats-rolling-022811

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AUSTIN, Texas

The season, Jake Pullen’s swan song in Manhattan, Kan., was quickly slipping away. There were the suspensions and the defections, and Kansas State’s senior and preseason first-team All-American was frustrated, much of it stemming from his teammates and their lack of experience and maturity.

But Pullen admittedly had some growing up to do of his own.

"I was so worried about my numbers,” said Pullen, who went for his fifth consecutive 20-plus point night in Monday’s 75-70 win at No. 7 Texas. "I was thinking about the next level — and it affected me.”

"I think he was thinking more about the league than the team,” chipped in fellow senior Curtis Kelly. "But after all the tribulations we’ve been though, he showed that he cares more about us — and winning — than himself.”

Pullen had his off nights early in the season, such as the 1-for-12 shooting performance in the loss to Duke back in November. But overall his numbers remained impressive.

He was doing what all the skeptics, who included plenty of NBA types, wanted to see — being a true point guard. They knew he could score, but they wanted to see if he could distribute.

But it wasn’t translating into enough wins.

Finally, following a Jan. 12 loss to Colorado at home, Wildcats coach Frank Martin called his star into his office and showed him tape of two games from a year ago — and then followed it up with tape from losses to Oklahoma State on Jan. 8 and also from the previous night against the Buffs.

"I was just walking around against Colorado and Oklahoma State,” Pullen admitted. "I wasn’t aggressive.”

"I needed to see it to understand it,” he added.

Then Pullen went into the locker room and got his teammates together and took accountability for his actions.

"You’re all accountable,” Pullen said. "And so am I.”

"I’m going to stop my bull****,” Kelly recalled Pullen saying to him.

Then Pullen began to play like the first-team All-American that so many expected going into the season.

This was a team that was in everyone’s top 5 in the preseason, but many forgot that it wasn’t the same one that went to the Elite Eight a year ago.

Pullen and Kelly were back, but the rest of the team was full of young, unproven guys. Denis Clemente, Luis Colon and Dominique Sutton — three starters from that Elite Eight squad — were gone.

"Everyone around Jake was basically new,” Martin said.

Martin takes plenty of the blame for the early-season struggles, maintaining that the offense didn’t allow Pullen to excel and kept him stagnant.

"He was frustrated,” Martin said. "The ball didn’t move – and Jake didn’t move. That’s on me.”

But this was a team clearly finding its way.

There was the suspension to Kelly to begin the season, then both Kelly and Pullen were hit with NCAA suspensions for receiving impermissible benefits at a department store.

Through it all, Pullen was hell-bent on trying to show people he could be a point guard at the next level.

"And, because of it, I was passive,” he said.

Then Pullen and the Wildcats lost to Colorado again — this time in Boulder exactly one month after the first meeting between the two teams.

This time it wasn’t just about the loss. It was how Kansas State suffered defeat. Pullen was stripped cleanly by Alec Burks in the final minute with the game on the line.

He got a three-way call at 6 a.m. the next morning from his two older brothers.

"They told me to take over games,” Pullen said. "Don’t play for the stat sheet.”

Since then, Pullen has been as dominant a scorer as any player in the nation — even more than that guy known as The Jimmer.

Pullen is averaging 27.2 points per game since that loss — and the Wildcats have reeled off five straight wins.

There was the 16-point rout over Kansas, the 10-point victory against Missouri — and the five-point road win against Texas on Monday.

"Everyone wrote us off,” Pullen said. "They said our season was down the drain.”

There was even that comment that gained Pullen national attention when, following the home loss to Colorado, he said he would refuse to play in the NIT.

"I was just emotional,” Pullen said on Monday night. "Of course I’d play in the NIT.”

But he doesn’t have to worry about that these days. Not after his Wildcats have reeled off seven of their past eight games and are 21-9 overall and 9-6 in Big 12 play with one game remaining.

Pullen is leading the Wildcats back to the Big Dance — and he’s got some help from his teammates now.

"He doesn’t talk about the NBA at all now,” Kelly said.

"The numbers don’t matter to me anymore,” Pullen added.

At least not the ones next to his name on the stat sheet.


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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 04:49:17 PM »
This was just referenced on pti
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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 04:51:41 PM »
Soren was saying today on 810 that we wouldn't be surprised to see Pullen drafted towards the end of the first round due to his ability to defend. Would be awesome to see Jake playin in the NBA!

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 04:55:31 PM »
Soren is a somewhat high-functioning Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 05:05:12 PM »
Soren is a somewhat high-functioning Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

So are a lot of NBA execs



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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 05:35:28 PM »
Soren is a somewhat high-functioning Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Jesus, if you think Soren is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), what do you think of the rest of the radio guys? 
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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 05:43:45 PM »
Soren is a somewhat high-functioning Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Jesus, if you think Soren is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), what do you think of the rest of the radio guys? 

somewhat lower-functioning.
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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 06:24:27 PM »
soren is worse IMO because he thinks he's smarter than everyone. I don't really listen to anyone else other than BITB, so that's all I can compare him to.

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 07:03:36 PM »
Soren was saying today on 810 that we wouldn't be surprised to see Pullen drafted towards the end of the first round due to his ability to defend. Would be awesome to see Jake playin in the NBA!
this is the total homer in me, but I can see a good team (Boston, San Antonino, etc) taking him late due to his defense and shooting.  A sweet 16 run with some great numbers will be the key.  :powerespect:

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 07:04:42 PM »
sorry if this has been posted...
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-upsets-texas-jake-pullen-has-wildcats-rolling-022811

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AUSTIN, Texas

The season, Jake Pullen’s swan song in Manhattan, Kan., was quickly slipping away. There were the suspensions and the defections, and Kansas State’s senior and preseason first-team All-American was frustrated, much of it stemming from his teammates and their lack of experience and maturity.

But Pullen admittedly had some growing up to do of his own.

"I was so worried about my numbers,” said Pullen, who went for his fifth consecutive 20-plus point night in Monday’s 75-70 win at No. 7 Texas. "I was thinking about the next level — and it affected me.”

"I think he was thinking more about the league than the team,” chipped in fellow senior Curtis Kelly. "But after all the tribulations we’ve been though, he showed that he cares more about us — and winning — than himself.”

Pullen had his off nights early in the season, such as the 1-for-12 shooting performance in the loss to Duke back in November. But overall his numbers remained impressive.

He was doing what all the skeptics, who included plenty of NBA types, wanted to see — being a true point guard. They knew he could score, but they wanted to see if he could distribute.

But it wasn’t translating into enough wins.

Finally, following a Jan. 12 loss to Colorado at home, Wildcats coach Frank Martin called his star into his office and showed him tape of two games from a year ago — and then followed it up with tape from losses to Oklahoma State on Jan. 8 and also from the previous night against the Buffs.

"I was just walking around against Colorado and Oklahoma State,” Pullen admitted. "I wasn’t aggressive.”

"I needed to see it to understand it,” he added.

Then Pullen went into the locker room and got his teammates together and took accountability for his actions.

"You’re all accountable,” Pullen said. "And so am I.”

"I’m going to stop my bull****,”
Kelly recalled Pullen saying to him.

Then Pullen began to play like the first-team All-American that so many expected going into the season.

This was a team that was in everyone’s top 5 in the preseason, but many forgot that it wasn’t the same one that went to the Elite Eight a year ago.

Pullen and Kelly were back, but the rest of the team was full of young, unproven guys. Denis Clemente, Luis Colon and Dominique Sutton — three starters from that Elite Eight squad — were gone.

"Everyone around Jake was basically new,” Martin said.

Martin takes plenty of the blame for the early-season struggles, maintaining that the offense didn’t allow Pullen to excel and kept him stagnant.

"He was frustrated,” Martin said. "The ball didn’t move – and Jake didn’t move. That’s on me.”

But this was a team clearly finding its way.

There was the suspension to Kelly to begin the season, then both Kelly and Pullen were hit with NCAA suspensions for receiving impermissible benefits at a department store.

Through it all, Pullen was hell-bent on trying to show people he could be a point guard at the next level.

"And, because of it, I was passive,” he said.

Then Pullen and the Wildcats lost to Colorado again — this time in Boulder exactly one month after the first meeting between the two teams.

This time it wasn’t just about the loss. It was how Kansas State suffered defeat. Pullen was stripped cleanly by Alec Burks in the final minute with the game on the line.

He got a three-way call at 6 a.m. the next morning from his two older brothers.

"They told me to take over games,” Pullen said. "Don’t play for the stat sheet.”

Since then, Pullen has been as dominant a scorer as any player in the nation — even more than that guy known as The Jimmer.

Pullen is averaging 27.2 points per game since that loss — and the Wildcats have reeled off five straight wins.

There was the 16-point rout over Kansas, the 10-point victory against Missouri — and the five-point road win against Texas on Monday.

"Everyone wrote us off,” Pullen said. "They said our season was down the drain.”

There was even that comment that gained Pullen national attention when, following the home loss to Colorado, he said he would refuse to play in the NIT.

"I was just emotional,” Pullen said on Monday night. "Of course I’d play in the NIT.”

But he doesn’t have to worry about that these days. Not after his Wildcats have reeled off seven of their past eight games and are 21-9 overall and 9-6 in Big 12 play with one game remaining.

Pullen is leading the Wildcats back to the Big Dance — and he’s got some help from his teammates now.

"He doesn’t talk about the NBA at all now,” Kelly said.

"The numbers don’t matter to me anymore,” Pullen added.

At least not the ones next to his name on the stat sheet.

All of this is evidence of what I was seeing through the first couple months of the season and why I was being critical of Jake. Many thought it was stupid to criticize him, but look how we've turned around when his play has improved. Here are some of the things I said:

Watching this team consistently underperform (not to expectations, but to potential) is what grates on me.

Pullen (for the most part) has looked like an arrogant idiot out there thinking that the game/team is his just because he's an "All-American".

And the point w/ Pullen is... you expect him to make good decisions, not force shots, show some leadership on the floor, and make clutch plays... He hasn't had a "great" game all year long, and while he indeed does make some nice plays for stretches in a game, the true clutch plays are not there.

And then as we began the turnaround, just as he received a large portion of the criticism for the ineffectiveness early on, he deserves a large portion of the credit for our renewed energy and better play.

This is what I've been looking for all year. Showing some leadership, confidence and determination when it matters most.

 :thumbsup: Pullz! You've earned a  :kstatriot:.


This is what I had expected from Pullz coming into this year...It's super to see him getting into a rhythm this year and leaving us with nothing but good memories. We should use Pullz' career as a big recruiting tool IMO. 'Gratz, man -- you've earned the hangin' jersey.

The media types are rightfully fawning over Pullz again. Incredible turnaround, and a thing of beauty to watch.


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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 07:14:09 PM »
Sorry Accel.Man


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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 07:40:38 PM »
sorry if this has been posted...
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-upsets-texas-jake-pullen-has-wildcats-rolling-022811

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AUSTIN, Texas

The season, Jake Pullen’s swan song in Manhattan, Kan., was quickly slipping away. There were the suspensions and the defections, and Kansas State’s senior and preseason first-team All-American was frustrated, much of it stemming from his teammates and their lack of experience and maturity.

But Pullen admittedly had some growing up to do of his own.

"I was so worried about my numbers,” said Pullen, who went for his fifth consecutive 20-plus point night in Monday’s 75-70 win at No. 7 Texas. "I was thinking about the next level — and it affected me.”

"I think he was thinking more about the league than the team,” chipped in fellow senior Curtis Kelly. "But after all the tribulations we’ve been though, he showed that he cares more about us — and winning — than himself.”

Pullen had his off nights early in the season, such as the 1-for-12 shooting performance in the loss to Duke back in November. But overall his numbers remained impressive.

He was doing what all the skeptics, who included plenty of NBA types, wanted to see — being a true point guard. They knew he could score, but they wanted to see if he could distribute.

But it wasn’t translating into enough wins.

Finally, following a Jan. 12 loss to Colorado at home, Wildcats coach Frank Martin called his star into his office and showed him tape of two games from a year ago — and then followed it up with tape from losses to Oklahoma State on Jan. 8 and also from the previous night against the Buffs.

"I was just walking around against Colorado and Oklahoma State,” Pullen admitted. "I wasn’t aggressive.”

"I needed to see it to understand it,” he added.

Then Pullen went into the locker room and got his teammates together and took accountability for his actions.

"You’re all accountable,” Pullen said. "And so am I.”

"I’m going to stop my bull****,”
Kelly recalled Pullen saying to him.

Then Pullen began to play like the first-team All-American that so many expected going into the season.

This was a team that was in everyone’s top 5 in the preseason, but many forgot that it wasn’t the same one that went to the Elite Eight a year ago.

Pullen and Kelly were back, but the rest of the team was full of young, unproven guys. Denis Clemente, Luis Colon and Dominique Sutton — three starters from that Elite Eight squad — were gone.

"Everyone around Jake was basically new,” Martin said.

Martin takes plenty of the blame for the early-season struggles, maintaining that the offense didn’t allow Pullen to excel and kept him stagnant.

"He was frustrated,” Martin said. "The ball didn’t move – and Jake didn’t move. That’s on me.”

But this was a team clearly finding its way.

There was the suspension to Kelly to begin the season, then both Kelly and Pullen were hit with NCAA suspensions for receiving impermissible benefits at a department store.

Through it all, Pullen was hell-bent on trying to show people he could be a point guard at the next level.

"And, because of it, I was passive,” he said.

Then Pullen and the Wildcats lost to Colorado again — this time in Boulder exactly one month after the first meeting between the two teams.

This time it wasn’t just about the loss. It was how Kansas State suffered defeat. Pullen was stripped cleanly by Alec Burks in the final minute with the game on the line.

He got a three-way call at 6 a.m. the next morning from his two older brothers.

"They told me to take over games,” Pullen said. "Don’t play for the stat sheet.”

Since then, Pullen has been as dominant a scorer as any player in the nation — even more than that guy known as The Jimmer.

Pullen is averaging 27.2 points per game since that loss — and the Wildcats have reeled off five straight wins.

There was the 16-point rout over Kansas, the 10-point victory against Missouri — and the five-point road win against Texas on Monday.

"Everyone wrote us off,” Pullen said. "They said our season was down the drain.”

There was even that comment that gained Pullen national attention when, following the home loss to Colorado, he said he would refuse to play in the NIT.

"I was just emotional,” Pullen said on Monday night. "Of course I’d play in the NIT.”

But he doesn’t have to worry about that these days. Not after his Wildcats have reeled off seven of their past eight games and are 21-9 overall and 9-6 in Big 12 play with one game remaining.

Pullen is leading the Wildcats back to the Big Dance — and he’s got some help from his teammates now.

"He doesn’t talk about the NBA at all now,” Kelly said.

"The numbers don’t matter to me anymore,” Pullen added.

At least not the ones next to his name on the stat sheet.

All of this is evidence of what I was seeing through the first couple months of the season and why I was being critical of Jake. Many thought it was stupid to criticize him, but look how we've turned around when his play has improved. Here are some of the things I said:

Watching this team consistently underperform (not to expectations, but to potential) is what grates on me.

Pullen (for the most part) has looked like an arrogant idiot out there thinking that the game/team is his just because he's an "All-American".

And the point w/ Pullen is... you expect him to make good decisions, not force shots, show some leadership on the floor, and make clutch plays... He hasn't had a "great" game all year long, and while he indeed does make some nice plays for stretches in a game, the true clutch plays are not there.

And then as we began the turnaround, just as he received a large portion of the criticism for the ineffectiveness early on, he deserves a large portion of the credit for our renewed energy and better play.

This is what I've been looking for all year. Showing some leadership, confidence and determination when it matters most.

 :thumbsup: Pullz! You've earned a  :kstatriot:.


This is what I had expected from Pullz coming into this year...It's super to see him getting into a rhythm this year and leaving us with nothing but good memories. We should use Pullz' career as a big recruiting tool IMO. 'Gratz, man -- you've earned the hangin' jersey.

The media types are rightfully fawning over Pullz again. Incredible turnaround, and a thing of beauty to watch.



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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 07:57:45 PM »
Soren is a somewhat high-functioning Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Jesus, if you think Soren is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), what do you think of the rest of the radio guys? 

Soren is maybe the 4th best sports radio guy in KC between 810 and 610.  Maybe.  ... and that only counts main hosts. 

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 08:00:52 PM »
soren is worse IMO because he thinks he's smarter than everyone. I don't really listen to anyone else other than BITB, so that's all I can compare him to.

Soren's problem is that he's such a total dick to his interviewees. Not in a funny "LOL that guy is kind of a dick" way, but in a "JFC that guy is a total dick" kind of way.

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 08:03:20 PM »
soren is worse IMO because he thinks he's smarter than everyone. I don't really listen to anyone else other than BITB, so that's all I can compare him to.

Soren's problem is that he's such a total dick to his interviewees. Not in a funny "LOL that guy is kind of a dick" way, but in a "JFC that guy is a total dick" kind of way.

Agreed.  To the point that many quickly become train wrecks, and not the good kind, but the awkward hopes-he-gets-attacked kind of way.

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2011, 08:28:08 PM »
he's a dick because he thinks he's right about everything


my biggest complaint about petro that i'd like to layer on top of the fact that he thinks he knows everything as pointed out by kRusty, is that he says a deep "uh" about 10 times per sentence.  he uses it to pace his speech pattern and sound smarter and it bugs the living crap out of me.  listen for it tomorrow.  terrible.   the guy is a bowl cutted chub loser.


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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2011, 08:32:16 PM »
his cadence, unbearable though it might be, is still light years ahead of nick wright in terms of listenability.... :barf:

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2011, 08:34:11 PM »
his cadence, unbearable though it might be, is still light years ahead of nick wright in terms of listenability.... :barf:

Nick Wright is much better radio than soren.

Who gives a crap about cadence? 

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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 08:36:51 PM »
his cadence, unbearable though it might be, is still light years ahead of nick wright in terms of listenability.... :barf:

Nick Wright is much better radio than soren.

Who gives a crap about cadence? 
uh....well, uh...i do.  the guy makes bill "masta" seff sound like he's reciting Shakespeare when he speaks


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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2011, 10:20:56 PM »
he's a dick because he thinks he's right about everything


my biggest complaint about petro that i'd like to layer on top of the fact that he thinks he knows everything as pointed out by kRusty, is that he says a deep "uh" about 10 times per sentence.  he uses it to pace his speech pattern and sound smarter and it bugs the living cac out of me.  listen for it tomorrow.  terrible.   the guy is a bowl cutted chub loser.

you sob, i went back and listened to a podcast it will haunt my one happy moment of sports talk radio when he interviews gotweed. Uh, umm, uhh.  eff
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Re: Goodman on Pullen
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2011, 10:47:50 PM »
Soren's biggest problem is his love for baseball.