I'm not real sure what else to post in those threads over there. I've even used graphs and screenshots to try to get them to hear reason, and they remain oblivious to the point at every turn.
The thread arguing how McMorris' improvement is astronomical compared to Pullen's is riotously entertaining, though. They act like McMorris was a homeless handicapped kid wandering the streets when Bill Self reached out and graced him with a Midas-like touch, transforming him into the best feel-good story of all time.