I thought I'd let it slide because of the win...

[kso_FAN]

Gruds and sprads missed some damn good looks.

This is the only reason the game was close. Those two should've hit 3-4 more of those looks and we are all talking about destroying NU today instead. But I'll take the win.

[Saulbadguy]

Our younger players suck on the road.

[Cire]

Our younger players suck on the road.

Sightlines.

[steve dave]

Our younger players suck on the road.

Sightlines.

juiced up on 'roids instead of going for a quick and lean physique

[mcmwcat]

Gruds and sprads missed some damn good looks.

This is the only reason the game was close. Those two should've hit 3-4 more of those looks and we are all talking about destroying NU today instead. But I'll take the win.

yes and -

NU able to hang with us on the glass creating extra oppy's on offense and limiting ours.

[Pett]

Russell > Southwell. Easily. I just don't get it.

[CNS]

Southwell definitely had an off night. He's not terrible though.

[CNS]

just don't get it.

[Emo EMAW]

Southwell had an off night.  I've been generally impressed with him in the other games he's played.  He should be an asset for us going down the road.

[jdagg2003]

I know it's kind of a  :powerespect: talking point, But it really does seem like Frank is much harder on Nick then other's. When he messes up in a game he get's pulled relatively quickly, But he will leave southwell  in through a horrible game. One part of me would like to think it's a grooming/pullenesque thing going on. But in reality he probably just hated Nick and want's him to transfer.

[CNS]

The Nick love this season is quickly becoming my least favorite thing about KSU fans.

[mcmwcat]

i get it (southwell over russell).  it's not that difficult.  

[Emo EMAW]

I know it's kind of a  :powerespect: talking point, But it really does seem like Frank is much harder on Nick then other's. When he messes up in a game he get's pulled relatively quickly, But he will leave southwell  in through a horrible game. One part of me would like to think it's a grooming/pullenesque thing going on. But in reality he probably just hated Nick and want's him to transfer.

We can't know how many drills Frank has run through with Nick trying to get him to stop doing dumb crap.  I mean if I tried like hell to get a player to do one thing, drilled it and drilled it and drilled it some more, and the first thing the kid does on the floor is the exact opposite of what I've taught, then I'm yanking him too.

[kso_FAN]

martin just likes the way an offense looks when you have a wing the defense sags off of.

In jest, but in many ways its true. Southwell had a poor game last night, and his turnovers were pretty bad. But its clear Frank has decided he needs another Sutton type player, someone who will accept a defense/passing/rebounding role first and put offense on the back burner. Southwell will do that, and Russell will not, so its not hard to figure out who plays.

[CNS]

martin just likes the way an offense looks when you have a wing the defense sags off of.

In jest, but in many ways its true. Southwell had a poor game last night, and his turnovers were pretty bad. But its clear Frank has decided he needs another Sutton type player, someone who will accept a defense/passing/rebounding role first and put offense on the back burner. Southwell will do that, and Russell will not, so its not hard to figure out who plays.

It seems to me that Jamar has been trying to fill the sutton role.

[sonofdaxjones]

One thing I really hate about some of the goemawtards is that when you mention a player . . . let's take Nick Russell for example, as someone you like to see play more, particularly when a player . . . like Shane Southwell for example . . . has a protracted stretch where he plays like CAC.   

The average goemawTARD (so that would mean many on this board) automatically takes it to mean that you (in this case me, a smart person) are saying that Nick Russell should be starting and playing 35 minutes a game.   When in reality, based on multiple sequences, could Nick Russell have been any worse than the absolute CAC that Shane Southwell was providing K-State?  I doubt it.

I (a smart person) understand that Nick Russell seems to be his own kind of dumbass at times, but there are times he likely could have been better than that offensive and at times defensive abortion that was Shane Southwell last night. 

This isn't that effing hard.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Russell > Southwell. Easily. I just don't get it.

the love for Russell on this board is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  the guy makes some of the worst decisions on the floor I've ever seen.  I find that every time he's on the floor I desperately want him out of the game because he is so rough ridin' stupid. 

for every flash of his ability to score off the bounce there are 3 awful shots and 2 stand and watch moments on defense.  eff him

[mcmwcat]

could Nick Russell have been any worse than the absolute CAC that Shane Southwell was providing K-State?

obviously

[sonofdaxjones]

Russell > Southwell. Easily. I just don't get it.

the love for Russell on this board is beyond Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  the guy makes some of the worst decisions on the floor I've ever seen.  I find that every time he's on the floor I desperately want him out of the game because he is so rough ridin' stupid. 

for every flash of his ability to score off the bounce there are 3 awful shots and 2 stand and watch moments on defense.  eff him

Meanwhile Southwell's guy just buried another 3, Shane just flailed away and tossed the ball to the other team . . . again, and then took a jumpshot that barely drew iron, and is basically no offensive threat.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

One thing I really hate about some of the goEMAWtards is that when you mention a player . . . let's take Nick Russell for example, as someone you like to see play more, particularly when a player . . . like Shane Southwell for example . . . has a protracted stretch where he plays like CAC.   

The average goEMAWTARD (so that would mean many on this board) automatically takes it to mean that you (in this case me, a smart person) are saying that Nick Russell should be starting and playing 35 minutes a game.   When in reality, based on multiple sequences, could Nick Russell have been any worse than the absolute CAC that Shane Southwell was providing K-State?  I doubt it.

I (a smart person) understand that Nick Russell seems to be his own kind of dumbass at times, but there are times he likely could have been better than that offensive and at times defensive abortion that was Shane Southwell last night. 

This isn't that effing hard.

^^^ this post =

[WillieWatanabe]

One thing I really hate about some of the goemawtards is that when you mention a player . . . let's take Nick Russell for example, as someone you like to see play more, particularly when a player . . . like Shane Southwell for example . . . has a protracted stretch where he plays like CAC.   

The average goemawTARD (so that would mean many on this board) automatically takes it to mean that you (in this case me, a smart person) are saying that Nick Russell should be starting and playing 35 minutes a game.   When in reality, based on multiple sequences, could Nick Russell have been any worse than the absolute CAC that Shane Southwell was providing K-State?  I doubt it.

I (a smart person) understand that Nick Russell seems to be his own kind of dumbass at times, but there are times he likely could have been better than that offensive and at times defensive abortion that was Shane Southwell last night. 

This isn't that effing hard.

the hell is this?