BSFS Expansion Thread

[bubbles4ksu]

everyone shut up about hobby sport facilities.

[eastcat]

everyone shut up about hobby sport facilities.

Just.. want.. nice things bubbles 

[AppleJack]

our aisles are the absolute worst. That is #1 for me that things that need to be remedied, even over having a competitive team. It's all I see when they show crowd shots.

Maybe we could have just one main aisle and keep it as large as it currently is. And then just have one long metal bleacher stretch across from one side of the of the enormously large aisle to the other.

[Paul Moscow]

"welcome to bramlage - enjoy the incredibly safe walk to your seat!"

[Shooter Jones]

So, now it says they "approved without discussion the proposed improvements" today? LCIQ, but does this mean we've already got the bids in and the rough numbers given from the awarded companies and rendos should get leaked soon?

[everyone shut up]

everyone shut up about hobby sport facilities.

let me handle this

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

So we get $63M and ku [klux Klan] gets $17M?  Sounds about right. 

[sonofdaxjones]

We don't get anything unless we raise the money ourselves.  Same with ku.   




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[pissclams]

We don't get anything unless we raise the money ourselves.  Same with ku.   




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i'm sensing our own little version of the gridiron club

[WildcatNkilt]

We don't get anything unless we raise the money ourselves.  Same with ku.   




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i'm sensing our own little version of the gridiron club

I was told yesterday that money will not be a problem and it is mostly funded.  Source:  A-

[sonofdaxjones]

I do think some are making to big a deal out of something that has to be done if a KBOR school is going to do anything with facilities.   This wasn't a press release saying it's going to happen with a banner hanging off the side of the stadium.   It was just jumping through an administrative formality that's usually done well in advance.     That said, I've heard the big issue is the logistics of doing a project like this on a working facility where LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder has his office, and not so much the money. 

[KITNfury]

I do think some are making to big a deal out of something that has to be done if a KBOR school is going to do anything with facilities.   This wasn't a press release saying it's going to happen with a banner hanging off the side of the stadium.   It was just jumping through an administrative formality that's usually done well in advance.     That said, I've heard the big issue is the logistics of doing a project like this on a working facility where LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder has his office, and not so much the money.

Trailer house. Should I email that to Currie?

[scottwildcat]

We don't get anything unless we raise the money ourselves.  Same with ku.   




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i'm sensing our own little version of the gridiron club

I was told yesterday that money will not be a problem and it is mostly funded.  Source:  A-

Either you're lying, your source is lying, or your source is not nearly as high up as you or (s)he claims.

[bubbles4ksu]

what if we bulldozed vanier with snyder inside and it became his final resting place and then we built a beautiful piece of architecture on top of him!?!?!?! a hollywood ending for our throwback hero!!

[Cartierfor3]

what if we bulldozed vanier with snyder inside and it became his final resting place and then we built a beautiful piece of architecture on top of him!?!?!?! a hollywood ending for our throwback hero!!

I think if we bulldozed our coach and buried him under the football complex it might reflect poorly on us as a University

[Benja]

Speaking of aisles (we should at least paint them in the fOOD so they don't stick out so much), widen the aisles in BSFS so we can close in the north without adding too much capacity. Then if we need more seating than that down the road, we can build up w/ an upper deck on the SEZ.

For like the 50 billionith time, we cant paint the aisles cuz of safety regs and blah blah blah... Also who cares about aisles and concourses compared to the other cool crap we could do

[Trogdor]

http://kstatesports.cstv.com/genrel/011614aaa.html

For you losers who haven't been blessed with doing this. Would recommend

[Mikeyis4dcats]

Yeah Ive heard the building code story.  Yet, in buildings constructed since OOD, I've not seen such massive and white aisles.  And codes have gotten tighter, not more lax, since the 80s.  Take SCenter as an example.  Aisles are half the width and are black. 

So

Lower seating level of the SC only has 30 rows, the Bram has 40 rows. All this egress stuff is based on how far someone has to travel to an exit and how many people you have per exit.

I think the aisles issue is a combination of excess and bad placement.

The seating areas are approx. 18 seats wide meaning a maximum of 9 seats away from an aisle. I'm pretty sure you can go upwards of 12 seats away from an aisle or 24 seats wide while maintaining the same width of aisle. This coupled with bleachers (narrower seats) at bramlage (at least opposite the camera) vs. chairbacks at sprint, means wider seating areas in comparison to the aisle width.

Also, it was not well thought out to locate an aisle at midcourt. The aisles are more noticeable as it is front and center.

In regards to the paint on the stairs. I'm pretty sure the only area of the stair that is required to be visually distinctive is the nosing of the stair while descending. Pretty sure the risers don't have to be painted a different color unless the heights are not uniform.

the code minimum for an A-4 occupancy type is 0.2 inch oer occupant served by the aisle.   They must also be sized so that if there is a reason one means of egress cannot be used (i.e. a fire blocking one aisle) that the remaining egress means can support not less than 50% of the capacity.

[pissclams]

what if we bulldozed vanier with snyder inside and it became his final resting place and then we built a beautiful piece of architecture on top of him!?!?!?! a hollywood ending for our throwback hero!!

I think if we bulldozed our coach and buried him under the football complex it might reflect poorly on us as a University

you should go to jail just for typing that.  who are you? 

[KSUBrian]

Yeah Ive heard the building code story.  Yet, in buildings constructed since OOD, I've not seen such massive and white aisles.  And codes have gotten tighter, not more lax, since the 80s.  Take SCenter as an example.  Aisles are half the width and are black. 

So

Lower seating level of the SC only has 30 rows, the Bram has 40 rows. All this egress stuff is based on how far someone has to travel to an exit and how many people you have per exit.

I think the aisles issue is a combination of excess and bad placement.

The seating areas are approx. 18 seats wide meaning a maximum of 9 seats away from an aisle. I'm pretty sure you can go upwards of 12 seats away from an aisle or 24 seats wide while maintaining the same width of aisle. This coupled with bleachers (narrower seats) at bramlage (at least opposite the camera) vs. chairbacks at sprint, means wider seating areas in comparison to the aisle width.

Also, it was not well thought out to locate an aisle at midcourt. The aisles are more noticeable as it is front and center.

In regards to the paint on the stairs. I'm pretty sure the only area of the stair that is required to be visually distinctive is the nosing of the stair while descending. Pretty sure the risers don't have to be painted a different color unless the heights are not uniform.

the code minimum for an A-4 occupancy type is 0.2 inch oer occupant served by the aisle.   They must also be sized so that if there is a reason one means of egress cannot be used (i.e. a fire blocking one aisle) that the remaining egress means can support not less than 50% of the capacity.

Since there is need for more capacity at the top, would it make sense to start them narrower at the bottom to take away some of the width/white distraction and gradually make them wider at the top? Besides minimizing the distaction, it would also put more seats closer to the court.

[KSUBrian]

Sorry if Luked but heard today that Populous was going to be the architect for the NEZ. Don't want to say too much that might burn my source (that i didn't know was a source until today) before I get to see renderings.

[SkinnyBenny]

Brian how in the world can you talk NEZ when we haven't even solved the aisle issue?

[treysolid]

are aisles the new trees?

[MadCat]

are aisles the new trees?

  At least you know where the enemy is with trees.  The aisles are like crossing the Sahara on foot.

[mocat]

sure, now that the #BID talk has cooled off you guys want to get rid of the large fire exits. gmafb