Where would we be, if the current team was our only team from the start?

[nicname]

If we never had Wally, or Asprilla?  If Curt and Jake never got suspended?  It's obviously frivolous, but one can't help but wonder?  _Fan's recent statistical posts, and just general curiosity have led me to ponder this question. 

I'm pretty much convinced that our team has finally hit their stride. I'm also convinced that we were shown the single game ceiling in the KU game, and that the group who has been on the court the last couple of weeks and seems to have both "bought in," while adapting to a change in offensive philosophy is the ceiling on a multiple game basis. 

The question is, just how good is THIS team?  Certainly better than it's overall record?  Just trying to gauge opinion.

IMO, in a perceive down year for college basketball I think that if the current squad would have been continuous from the beginning they would be ranked somewhere between No. 10 and No. 15, probably sitting at 8-4  or better in the conference and we wouldn't have lost to at least UNLV, and possibly Florida.    I'm thinking something like 23-8 and 9-3 in the conference, which would put the Cats in good position for 3/4 seed in the dance and the chance to play into another 2 seed. 

With the currant reality I feel we are an 8-9 with the possibility to play into a 5 or 6 seed.  Either way if our recent success continues the road may be tougher but this is still a squad that can make a S16 E8 Run.

Thoughts?

I'll also save the obligatory.....    http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/DNR.gif

[wetwillie]

This team will be defined by the next two games

[O-town Kat]

The 'current team' doesn't lose at NU. We'll see.

[Cartierfor3]

in your magical scenario did jake and curt get suspended or not?

[nicname]

in your magical scenario did jake and curt get suspended or not?

No.  It is basically the current squad with none of the off-court hiccups.

[Dr Rick Daris]

If we never had Wally, or Asprilla?  If Curt and Jake never got suspended?  It's obviously frivolous, but one can't help but wonder?  _Fan's recent statistical posts, and just general curiosity have led me to ponder this question. 

I'm pretty much convinced that our team has finally hit their stride. I'm also convinced that we were shown the single game ceiling in the KU game, and that the group who has been on the court the last couple of weeks and seems to have both "bought in," while adapting to a change in offensive philosophy is the ceiling on a multiple game basis. 

The question is, just how good is THIS team?  Certainly better than it's overall record?  Just trying to gauge opinion.

IMO, in a perceive down year for college basketball I think that if the current squad would have been continuous from the beginning they would be ranked somewhere between No. 10 and No. 15, probably sitting at 8-4  or better in the conference and we wouldn't have lost to at least UNLV, and possibly Florida.    I'm thinking something like 23-8 and 9-3 in the conference, which would put the Cats in good position for 3/4 seed in the dance and the chance to play into another 2 seed. 

With the currant reality I feel we are an 8-9 with the possibility to play into a 5 or 6 seed.  Either way if our recent success continues the road may be tougher but this is still a squad that can make a S16 E8 Run.

Thoughts?

I'll also save the obligatory.....    http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/DNR.gif

also, what if beasley was still on the team and every kstate freethrow counted as 1.5 points instead of just 1?  

[nicname]

If we never had Wally, or Asprilla?  If Curt and Jake never got suspended?  It's obviously frivolous, but one can't help but wonder?  _Fan's recent statistical posts, and just general curiosity have led me to ponder this question. 

I'm pretty much convinced that our team has finally hit their stride. I'm also convinced that we were shown the single game ceiling in the KU game, and that the group who has been on the court the last couple of weeks and seems to have both "bought in," while adapting to a change in offensive philosophy is the ceiling on a multiple game basis. 

The question is, just how good is THIS team?  Certainly better than it's overall record?  Just trying to gauge opinion.

IMO, in a perceive down year for college basketball I think that if the current squad would have been continuous from the beginning they would be ranked somewhere between No. 10 and No. 15, probably sitting at 8-4  or better in the conference and we wouldn't have lost to at least UNLV, and possibly Florida.    I'm thinking something like 23-8 and 9-3 in the conference, which would put the Cats in good position for 3/4 seed in the dance and the chance to play into another 2 seed. 

With the currant reality I feel we are an 8-9 with the possibility to play into a 5 or 6 seed.  Either way if our recent success continues the road may be tougher but this is still a squad that can make a S16 E8 Run.

Thoughts?

I'll also save the obligatory.....    http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/DNR.gif

also, what if beasley was still on the team and every kstate freethrow counted as 1.5 points instead of just 1?  

 

[gokatgo]

can we pretend we didn't pass on Burks too?

[catzacker]

The suspensions were/are the drivers for this team being a bubble team. W/out them, we probably win two more games (UNLV and CU) and the bubble talk would be seeding talk.  I don’t think that this team has hit its stride…or rather, I don’t think that this teams’ stride is anything other than being your average ncaa tourney team.  

[KITNfury]

If we win 3 out of our next 4, we will playing better than the seed we will get and there would be some upset people for seeing us in their bracket. if we lose two and get in, we're an an average tourney team that nobody will fear. If the former scenario happens I will agree that we have hit our stride and had we been that good from the beginning, we would have a top 3 conference seed all but locked up with a chance to win the league. This would also mean a 1-3 seed in the dance.

[Cartierfor3]

in your magical scenario did jake and curt get suspended or not?

No.  It is basically the current squad with none of the off-court hiccups.

well then yeah we'd be better.  probably go against 3-3 against UNLV, OK ST, A&M, CU, CU, MU 

[Rams]

If we never had Wally, or Asprilla?  If Curt and Jake never got suspended?  It's obviously frivolous, but one can't help but wonder?  _Fan's recent statistical posts, and just general curiosity have led me to ponder this question. 

I'm pretty much convinced that our team has finally hit their stride. I'm also convinced that we were shown the single game ceiling in the KU game, and that the group who has been on the court the last couple of weeks and seems to have both "bought in," while adapting to a change in offensive philosophy is the ceiling on a multiple game basis. 

The question is, just how good is THIS team?  Certainly better than it's overall record?  Just trying to gauge opinion.

IMO, in a perceive down year for college basketball I think that if the current squad would have been continuous from the beginning they would be ranked somewhere between No. 10 and No. 15, probably sitting at 8-4  or better in the conference and we wouldn't have lost to at least UNLV, and possibly Florida.    I'm thinking something like 23-8 and 9-3 in the conference, which would put the Cats in good position for 3/4 seed in the dance and the chance to play into another 2 seed. 

With the currant reality I feel we are an 8-9 with the possibility to play into a 5 or 6 seed.  Either way if our recent success continues the road may be tougher but this is still a squad that can make a S16 E8 Run.

Thoughts?

I'll also save the obligatory.....    http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/DNR.gif

Thanks for asking!  My opinion is that this is a worthless rough ridin' topic and would easily be worth 2 pages of pointless responses on GPC.  Maybe you should run your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) hypothetical up the flagpole over there.

Also, "currant" is a shrub.








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[tyLRRRR]

If T. Rob's mom hadn't bitten the dust we would have caught uk flat and unemotional, probably squeaking by with win.

Chalk another W up in the "What if?" column.

[Dugout DickStone]

We'd be sitting in 1st, spit polishing our Preseason Big 12 trophy with Bill Self's rug.   

[nicname]

If we never had Wally, or Asprilla?  If Curt and Jake never got suspended?  It's obviously frivolous, but one can't help but wonder?  _Fan's recent statistical posts, and just general curiosity have led me to ponder this question. 

I'm pretty much convinced that our team has finally hit their stride. I'm also convinced that we were shown the single game ceiling in the KU game, and that the group who has been on the court the last couple of weeks and seems to have both "bought in," while adapting to a change in offensive philosophy is the ceiling on a multiple game basis. 

The question is, just how good is THIS team?  Certainly better than it's overall record?  Just trying to gauge opinion.

IMO, in a perceive down year for college basketball I think that if the current squad would have been continuous from the beginning they would be ranked somewhere between No. 10 and No. 15, probably sitting at 8-4  or better in the conference and we wouldn't have lost to at least UNLV, and possibly Florida.    I'm thinking something like 23-8 and 9-3 in the conference, which would put the Cats in good position for 3/4 seed in the dance and the chance to play into another 2 seed. 

With the currant reality I feel we are an 8-9 with the possibility to play into a 5 or 6 seed.  Either way if our recent success continues the road may be tougher but this is still a squad that can make a S16 E8 Run.

Thoughts?

I'll also save the obligatory.....    http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/DNR.gif

Thanks for asking!  My opinion is that this is a worthless rough ridin' topic and would easily be worth 2 pages of pointless responses on GPC.  Maybe you should run your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) hypothetical up the flagpole over there.

Also, "currant" is a shrub.








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STFU and GTFO of the thread if you don't like it, idiot.

[nicname]

If we win 3 out of our next 4, we will playing better than the seed we will get and there would be some upset people for seeing us in their bracket. if we lose two and get in, we're an an average tourney team that nobody will fear. If the former scenario happens I will agree that we have hit our stride and had we been that good from the beginning, we would have a top 3 conference seed all but locked up with a chance to win the league. This would also mean a 1-3 seed in the dance.

Also, I agree with everything KITN said.  I think I should have phrased the in a similar manner to the bolded part. Something like....

If the Cats can have hit their stride, and can finish strong, and finish, say 10-5 and win a game or two in the Phillips 66.  The team including the earlier portion of the season would probably get something like a 6 seed. That, however, would not be a true representation of the teams strength, as the current squad would have the make up of a two 2-3 seed and no one would like to see them in their bracket.  Thoughts?