Author Topic: One and Done Rule (Read 8530 times)

_33 · « **on:** February 19, 2011, 10:52:48 AM »

The "you can go to the NBA straight out of high school but if you go to college you have to stay 3 years" is ridiculous. Players should be able to go pro whenever they want. It's not a safety issue like in the NFL. Can't believe how many people are advocating this right now.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2011, 10:57:10 AM »

It is modern day slavery

KITNfury · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2011, 11:15:02 AM »

I'm ok with it for the most part, although I'd prefer 2 years. Regardless of what they do as far as "mandatory" time at the schools, every player should be allowed to go pro out of HS if they want.

the KHAN! · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2011, 11:28:02 AM »

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It is modern day slavery

more or less.

They don't take into account things like CAREER ENDING INJURIES. I'm sure 99.9 percent of people understand that players don't want to risk blowing their knee out their junior year of college and getting no compensation, rather than doing it their 2nd season in the NBA and at least having a fat stack of cash to fall back on.

Cire · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2011, 11:31:13 AM »

bet ku fans are organizing rallies in favor of it

OK_Cat · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:07:24 PM »

i want players to stay longer in college, but it's for completely selfish reasons. I dgaf about the nba, so i'd rather see the good players play college hoops for 4 years.

but instead, they leave and we're forced to watch the doc spradlings of the world.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:16:14 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 19, 2011, 10:57:10 AM

It is modern day slavery

if this is true, wish i had the vertical leap and jump shot to become a slave.

jtksu · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:25:40 PM »

Seems to work ok for baseball and a crap ton more kids sign pro baseball contracts every year than basketball contracts.

The1BigWillie · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:27:32 PM »

Millions are being made off of these kids and if they want to have a career they are forced to play for free for "the man".

Absolutely slavery.

jtksu · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:34:02 PM »

They're not exactly playing for free. 4 or 5 yrs of out of state tuition, room and board, all sorts of gear, etc. Probably looking at upwards of 100 grand. 99 percent of the kids have no shot at reaching the NBA anyway. If a school is willing to invest that kind of money in a kid, I can see why the schools would like some sort of assurance that the player will be around for 3 yrs. That said, I would take the pro money the second it was available. How many sophomores get drafted that wouldn't have went straightto the NBA if the oppotunity was there?

sys · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2011, 01:46:10 PM »

Quote from: The1BigWillie on February 19, 2011, 01:27:32 PM

Millions are being made off of these kids.

Absolutely slavery.

dumb people always say this, probably because they're stupid.

just so you know, no one is watching college bball because their viewing preference is bball played by guys not good enough for the nba. people watch because of an affiliation with a school. you could fill the rosters with anyone and people would still watch.

Rams · « **Reply #11 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:09:23 PM »

Quote from: OK_Cat on February 19, 2011, 01:07:24 PM

i want players to stay longer in college, but it's for completely selfish reasons. I dgaf about the nba, so i'd rather see the good players play college hoops for 4 years.

but instead, they leave and we're forced to watch the doc spradlings of the world.

I agree with OK

SdK · « **Reply #12 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:15:27 PM »

You know if all of the colleges just banded together and stopped giving scholarships to the one and dones it would alleviate all of this...

wetwillie · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:24:28 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 19, 2011, 01:46:10 PM

Quote from: The1BigWillie on February 19, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
Millions are being made off of these kids.

Absolutely slavery.

dumb people always say this, probably because they're stupid.

just so you know, no one is watching college bball because their viewing preference is bball played by guys not good enough for the nba. people watch because of an affiliation with a school. you could fill the rosters with anyone and people would still watch.

Michael Beasley rejuvenated our fan base, top level players do make a difference.

sys · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2011, 02:32:38 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 19, 2011, 02:24:28 PM

Michael Beasley rejuvenated our fan base, top level players do make a difference.

winning rejuvenated our fan base.

the KHAN! · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2011, 06:52:20 PM »

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winning rejuvenated our fan base.

...thanks to Michael Beasley.

ednksu · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2011, 06:55:25 PM »

I like the baseball rule over the current system

Tackleshep · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2011, 08:30:05 PM »

Change the college compensation system and it wouldn't be an issue. Allow schools to sign students to contracts for scholorships and declare the years up front.....

jtksu · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2011, 09:43:32 PM »

That is a really stupid idea. Really stupid. I wish there was a word to describe just how stupid that idea is...

sys · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2011, 09:55:16 PM »

Quote from: El Gato on February 19, 2011, 06:52:20 PM

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winning rejuvenated our fan base.

...thanks to Michael Beasley.

yeah. but they'd have been just as enthused about some guy who had no nba possibilities beating a big 12 filled with other players with no nba possibilities.

the idea that the popularity of college bball is dependent on having future nba players is false.

Cire · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2011, 12:19:09 AM »

Sys is nailing it guys just stfu

jtksu · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2011, 12:22:55 AM »

Do you kiss your mother with that Sys' ball gobbling mouth?

swish1 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2011, 12:25:48 AM »

Quote from: sys on February 19, 2011, 09:55:16 PM

Quote from: El Gato on February 19, 2011, 06:52:20 PM
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winning rejuvenated our fan base.

...thanks to Michael Beasley.

yeah. but they'd have been just as enthused about some guy who had no nba possibilities beating a big 12 filled with other players with no nba possibilities.

the idea that the popularity of college bball is dependent on having future nba players is false.

assuming that the quality of athletes doesnt drop beyond a certain level you are absolutely correct.

Clevey 2 Times · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2011, 01:37:08 PM »

Quote from: swish1 on February 20, 2011, 12:25:48 AM

Quote from: sys on February 19, 2011, 09:55:16 PM
Quote from: El Gato on February 19, 2011, 06:52:20 PM
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winning rejuvenated our fan base.

...thanks to Michael Beasley.

yeah. but they'd have been just as enthused about some guy who had no nba possibilities beating a big 12 filled with other players with no nba possibilities.

the idea that the popularity of college bball is dependent on having future nba players is false.

assuming that the quality of athletes doesnt drop beyond a certain level you are absolutely correct.

Sys is spot on with the popularity. Winning makes you more popular regardless of talent-level. Let these kids go pro or to the D-League if they want. With the top college players of today in the D-League, many of us would watch it AND college hoops. Workers, in almost every case, should be able to sell their skills in whatever labor market they choose. This is Amer-kuh damn it!

I will say the current system does exploit student athletes. Considering their scholarships are not guaranteed and considering that big time college sports are nothing more than an entertainment industry. Frank Martin, John Currie, and LHC Bill Snyder, although they may publicly say differently, don't really give a damn about their players' academics except for keeping them eligible to be on the field/court. Yes, they may hold some personal sentiments for an individual(s), but institutionally there is really no incentive to care that much. Their salaries are in no way tied to academic acheivement, therefore they spend 99% of their time concerning themselves with athletics. And why wouldn't they? It is strategic.

This is why I'd advocate letting the one and dones go pro if they want, give guaranteed scholarships, tie coaches salaries more to academic achievement, and quit spending millions to send State U all over the country to play sports. Make the NCAA Tourney and bowls where teams play more out of their region. Anyways, this is a pipe dream, but I'd prefer an NCAA that actually helps colleges accomplish their stated missions, rather than being a detriment. At almost every school student fees subsidize big time athletics, which is a crime, IMO.

ednksu · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2011, 01:55:26 PM »

Quote from: Cleveland on February 20, 2011, 01:37:08 PM

Workers, in almost every case, should be able to sell their skills in whatever labor market they choose. This is Amer-kuh damn it!

if we are going freedom of contract does that mean we should remove the anti-trust protections from nba, nfl, mlb?

if we are going to overhaul the system lets also include something about coaches switching schools and having to sit out a year like the 'student' athletes.