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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24800 on: June 28, 2019, 04:12:56 PM »
I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU. I have watched 6 complete games and parts of 7 others, so far.

The article from SBNATION makes a reasoned and logical argument that HCCK could take out most of the FBS  --- at NDSU.
At KSU, the success ceiling is much higher.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/7/18170160/north-dakota-state-fbs

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These are four of the six FBS teams to play and lose to NDSU this decade
Recent NDSU “upset” victims that could definitely lose to NDSU again

Iowa
Kansas State
Minnesota
Iowa State
 On the fence

Missouri
Memphis
NC State
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Georgia Southern
Virginia
South Carolina
Troy
Kentucky
Oregon

This is the most middling group here, for me. All of these teams had fine seasons. None is anything near a juggernaut, and most of them lost games to teams you’d generally expect North Dakota State to beat. The only team here that didn’t is Missouri, and the Tigers lost to multiple teams that seem like fringe cases against the Bison.

Would really probably lose to NDSU

Houston
FAU
Arizona State
Pitt
Boston College
Maryland
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Baylor
Ole Miss
Wake Forest
Virginia Tech
Vanderbilt
Arizona
Miami (Ohio)
Eastern Michigan
Middle Tennessee
Southern Miss

There’s some talent and some quality wins within this group, but all of these teams are deeply flawed in some way or another. A few of them have just horrible defenses, and it’s easy to envision the Bison running 45 times for 5.5 yards per carry and controlling the ball for 42 minutes of clock time in a 21-10 win.


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« Reply #24801 on: June 28, 2019, 04:20:44 PM »
I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU. I have watched 6 complete games and parts of 7 others, so far.

The article from SBNATION makes a reasoned and logical argument that HCCK could take out most of the FBS  --- at NDSU.
At KSU, the success ceiling is much higher.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/7/18170160/north-dakota-state-fbs

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These are four of the six FBS teams to play and lose to NDSU this decade
Recent NDSU “upset” victims that could definitely lose to NDSU again

Iowa
Kansas State
Minnesota
Iowa State
 On the fence

Missouri
Memphis
NC State
Cincinnati
Syracuse
Georgia Southern
Virginia
South Carolina
Troy
Kentucky
Oregon

This is the most middling group here, for me. All of these teams had fine seasons. None is anything near a juggernaut, and most of them lost games to teams you’d generally expect North Dakota State to beat. The only team here that didn’t is Missouri, and the Tigers lost to multiple teams that seem like fringe cases against the Bison.

Would really probably lose to NDSU

Houston
FAU
Arizona State
Pitt
Boston College
Maryland
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Baylor
Ole Miss
Wake Forest
Virginia Tech
Vanderbilt
Arizona
Miami (Ohio)
Eastern Michigan
Middle Tennessee
Southern Miss

There’s some talent and some quality wins within this group, but all of these teams are deeply flawed in some way or another. A few of them have just horrible defenses, and it’s easy to envision the Bison running 45 times for 5.5 yards per carry and controlling the ball for 42 minutes of clock time in a 21-10 win.

maybe he got better OLs at NDSU than he can get at KSU. he arguably had more talent than ksu at ndsu. maybe he can't attract as much talent to ksu

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24802 on: June 28, 2019, 04:55:54 PM »
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maybe he got better OLs at NDSU than he can get at KSU. he arguably had more talent than ksu at ndsu. maybe he can't attract as much talent to ksu

No, it was because HCCK had the Personal Phone #s of the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Dumbledore.

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he arguably had more talent than ksu
more wishful thinking

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NDSU just beat Iowa with unrated recruits. What could it do with three-stars?

We know recruiting ratings matter. This hasn't stopped the Bison, who develop as well as anybody and helped turn a late-blooming QB recruit into the current favorite for NFL Rookie of the Year.

No one would mistake NDSU's recent signing classes for FBS-level good. The Bison generally sit between 120th and 150th nationally on the 247Sports Composite, which aggregates industry evaluations of recruits.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24803 on: June 28, 2019, 07:51:52 PM »
If you can recruit someone to play FCS football vs FBS football, I’m rough ridin' sold. I know there’s not a lot going on right now, but I’m very surprised by some of goemawers gE’ing acting like the new coach isn’t making an impact with his hands tied behind his back with nothing to sell.

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« Reply #24804 on: June 29, 2019, 01:01:15 AM »
I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU.

Can confirm, I think. I got pak’d watching H3O lose to a d-2 team once, not sure if t was eff head’s or not.

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« Reply #24805 on: June 29, 2019, 02:16:58 AM »
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    I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU.


Can confirm, I think. I got pak’d watching H3O lose to a d-2 team once, not sure if t was eff head’s or not.[/quote]

If you don't watch the game film and break it down, how the hell do you know what to expect?
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« Reply #24806 on: June 29, 2019, 07:31:04 AM »
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    I have an idea(Knowledge) that none of you have actually watched HCCK's work at NDSU.


Can confirm, I think. I got pak’d watching H3O lose to a d-2 team once, not sure if t was eff head’s or not.

If you don't watch the game film and break it down, how the hell do you know what to expect?
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Whenever Catbacker blabs about breaking down film this is what my mind hears.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24807 on: June 29, 2019, 01:19:27 PM »
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Whenever Catbacker blabs about breaking down film this is what my mind hears.

I suspect that your definition of MIND is a grey-coloured play-dough toy that you play with by bouncing it against the
 nearest wall.

You are allowed your own opinions but Facts and Knowledge come from research and work, not sticking your hands in your pants.
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« Reply #24808 on: June 29, 2019, 04:53:27 PM »
You know catsacker 73 may be a N Dakota'on, but I like how one side of his brain works.  It's just pure entertainment.  :Woot:
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« Reply #24809 on: June 29, 2019, 07:03:50 PM »
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You know catsacker 73 may be a N Dakota'on, but I like how one side of his brain works.  It's just pure entertainment.  :Woot:

Nope. I have never been in that state before. Spent the last 50 years in, Kansas, Arkansas, OIl-climb-homa, East New-Braska, and Tex-AZZ.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24810 on: July 01, 2019, 03:26:49 PM »
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24811 on: July 01, 2019, 03:28:09 PM »
Finally, an OT.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24812 on: July 01, 2019, 03:32:43 PM »
suck it, wyoming (also ku)

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« Reply #24814 on: July 01, 2019, 03:54:36 PM »
Looks like he loves contact but is gonna get called for so many holding penalties. Needs 2 years min. Of S&C to bulk up. Would probably make a good blocking TE.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24815 on: July 01, 2019, 04:09:02 PM »
Maybe they'll get a nice juco ot.

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« Reply #24816 on: July 01, 2019, 04:16:53 PM »
suck it, wyoming (also ku)
this class looks alarmingly similar to a Snyder class. Blue collar kids and those with future potential that other P5 programs are not interested in.

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« Reply #24817 on: July 01, 2019, 04:35:31 PM »
suck it, wyoming (also ku)
this class looks alarmingly similar to a Snyder class. Blue collar kids and those with future potential that other P5 programs are not interested in.

You're telling me CK is going to get a class as good as the GOAT in his first year?! CK is a God!

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« Reply #24818 on: July 01, 2019, 04:45:10 PM »
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« Reply #24819 on: July 01, 2019, 09:10:10 PM »
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suck it, wyoming (also ku)
this class looks alarmingly similar to a Snyder class. Blue collar kids and those with future potential that other P5 programs are not interested in.

Heard on KMAN today (sorry, I live in NC so online KSU fix) and they said currently Rivals has us ranked as the 32 "ranked" recruiting class nationally and 3rd in the B12. I understand it's early but I don't remember Snyds classes being that prestigious?

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« Reply #24820 on: July 02, 2019, 05:56:54 AM »
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suck it, wyoming (also ku)
this class looks alarmingly similar to a Snyder class. Blue collar kids and those with future potential that other P5 programs are not interested in.

Heard on KMAN today (sorry, I live in NC so online KSU fix) and they said currently Rivals has us ranked as the 32 "ranked" recruiting class nationally and 3rd in the B12. I understand it's early but I don't remember Snyds classes being that prestigious?
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« Reply #24821 on: July 02, 2019, 06:36:25 AM »
Here is an argument, with a set of facts, that Kli has increased the quality of recruiting.  247 Sports takes all of the various recruiting ratings and creates a composite score for each recruit, then averages the ratings of each class.  Below is a list of KSU's recent class ratings... these ratings are not dependent on quantity.  They are 100% dependent on evaluated quality.

2006: 0.8059 (Prince)
2007: 0.8251 (Prince)
2008: 0.8404 (Prince)
2009: 0.8222 (Prince - Snyder)
2010: 0.8163 (Snyder)
2011: 0.8167 (Snyder)
2012: 0.7995 (Snyder)
2013: 0.8221 (Snyder)
2014: 0.8217 (Snyder)
2015: 0.8339 (Snyder)
2016: 0.8208 (Snyder)
2017: 0.8333 (Snyder)
2018: 0.8400 (Snyder)
2019: 0.8397 (Snyder - Kli)
2020: 0.8436 (Kli)

Translation, in the last 15 years are highest rated class based on quality are:
2020 - Kli
2008 - Prince
2018 - Snyder
2019 - Snyder & Kli
2015 - Snyder

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24822 on: July 02, 2019, 07:33:32 AM »
Facts. I like em.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #24823 on: July 02, 2019, 08:23:08 AM »
what the eff was bill doing in 2012

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« Reply #24824 on: July 02, 2019, 09:18:34 AM »
what the eff was bill doing in 2012
taking in the historic season