Football Recruiting Thread

[BRULL]

It's July and there's only 6 - 7 spots left in this class!   

Lol not to go all Kim carnes but I'm pretty sure a spot or two will open up

There will be more than that.  I'm sure we'll end up taking around 30 kids.

Not counting GS and JUCO placements? Not sure how your numbers work?? 

[kslim]

It's July and there's only 6 - 7 spots left in this class!   

Lol not to go all Kim carnes but I'm pretty sure a spot or two will open up

There will be more than that.  I'm sure we'll end up taking around 30 kids.

Not counting GS and JUCO placements? Not sure how your numbers work?? 

When you compete with the likes of Florida bama ect you start over signing classes

[Mixed-Nutz]

I bet the staff hasn't been happy with the quality of JUCO athletes they have landed. But they have been happy with their placements (Pease, Meshak both 2 stars from the south)  Wouldn't be surprised if the number greyshirts plus placements equals about 8.

[wabash909]

"All The Way" Andre Coleman is at it again!   

No, not returning punts and kickoffs for touchdowns.  Not making game changing plays on offense.

Mr. "All The Way" is showing he an be a closer on the recruiting trail!  How great is it to have another former player contributing in a major fashion again to our football program?

Andre has always been one of my favorites and he is ascending even higher!  I will never forget sitting in Jeremiah Bullfrog's in Topeka, watching the Super Bowl.  As Andre was preparing to return the kickoff, I said to my friends around the table, "He is gonna take this one back!"  Sure enough he did!  Then one of the local TV stations interviewed me about it.  Pretty darn cool memory.

"All The Way" Andre!  EMAW

[420seriouscat69]

 

[Panjandrum]

It's July and there's only 6 - 7 spots left in this class!   

Lol not to go all Kim carnes but I'm pretty sure a spot or two will open up

There will be more than that.  I'm sure we'll end up taking around 30 kids.

Not counting GS and JUCO placements? Not sure how your numbers work?? 

I'll have to update my spreadsheet and go through a bunch of that stuff, but I think we can oversign this class by a couple of guys.

And who knows what JUCO placements we're actually bringing back.  We bring back, like, 15% of them.

[sonofdaxjones]

Bore us with Snyder 5 heart stories, and lecture us about how coaches know more than recruitniks, but at the end of the day, the numbers still say . . . Stars Matter.

I'll throw a bone to the staff and say that 1 or 2 of those guys will be significant contributors, but at the end of the day, you want to compete year and year out in the B12 and beat teams like Oregon and 2011 Arkansas . . . Stars Matter.   

[Mixed-Nutz]

Bore us with Snyder 5 heart stories, and lecture us about how coaches know more than recruitniks, but at the end of the day, the numbers still say . . . Stars Matter.

I'll throw a bone to the staff and say that 1 or 2 of those guys will be significant contributors, but at the end of the day, you want to compete year and year out in the B12 and beat teams like Oregon and 2011 Arkansas . . . Stars Matter.

Great players matter not stars, but there is a moderate correlation with stars and talent. At the end of the day you have find a way to get great players and I don't think K-state best way to get those players is by recruiting 5-star players.

[sonofdaxjones]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

[Kat Kid]

Manhatter is great.  The rest of you Man-HATERS can gtfo.  This is a serious post by the way.  I can't stand it when people crap all over someone who takes the time to actually do some scouting.

[cas4ksu]

Hatter,

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Butler OT Luke Hayes. Would love to see us get a player that could provide depth or start for us when Lucas and Rooks graduate.

[Mixed-Nutz]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

[MadCat]

The only way this class could be better is if they were 1-stars. 

[Panjandrum]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

If the numbers are true (and the are probably somewhere in the ball park), it looks like we got some size and speed.

All I ask is that we bring in BCS level athletes.  This group of coaches can turn them into football players.  We just need more BCS athletes and less walk-on type kids from Johnson County.

Now, I would not always say that this is okay, but these coaches have proven they can take guys like this and turn them into legitimate BCS football players.  They may not have the measurables and refined skills to be immediate contributors (i.e. 4-star, 5-star), but we have 2-3 years to coach them up before most of them ever see the field, so we'll eventually give them that.

I'm pretty happy with all of them.  I mean, really, you can't have 85 all-stars.  If each class has 5-7 really good players, you're fielding a really good starting 22.  The rest of the guys are depth or situational guys.

Anyway, good haul this weekend.  A lot of nice athletes in the group.  I'm a little more optimistic about Heath than Hatter is, but I guess I set my bar for him on special teams and situational type stuff.  Maybe a DB flip.

I really like Ford, though.  I think he'll be a good one.

[treysolid]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

Lee runs a 4.4?   

[sonofdaxjones]

Who is crapping over anyone?  Having an opinion is crapping over someone?

[Mixed-Nutz]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

Lee runs a 4.4?   

Reported 4.42 the same day Warmark ran a 4.37

[steve dave]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

Lee runs a 4.4?   

Reported 4.42 the same day Warmark ran a 4.37

those aren't legit fwiw

[Mixed-Nutz]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

Lee runs a 4.4?   

Reported 4.42 the same day Warmark ran a 4.37

those aren't legit fwiw

Hand timed or DJamer Wallaced   

[jtksu]

I didn't say anything about K-State recruiting 5 stars.

I see plenty to like in 2 of the 5, and the other 3, we'll just have to see.

I fell like 2 stars have better chance to be great then 3 stars. A lot 2 stars that haven't been fully evaluated or are considered a 2 star because they play small time high school football. I like who we have committed so far because they all have good measurements.

Class has a ton of speed (Best reported times)

4.3 Warmark, Heath
4.4 Prewett, Stevens, Lee
4.5 Adams, Aaron

Lee runs a 4.4?   

Reported 4.42 the same day Warmark ran a 4.37

those aren't legit fwiw

They never are until the combine.  Regardless, still very fast.

[Panjandrum]

All 40 times are crap unless they came from a SPARQ event.  The guys at those events are unreal, and they run 4.4 and 4.5 40's.

Figurs is the fastest guy I've seen in a KSU uniform.  He ran a 4.29 at the combine and was the fastest guy that year.

HS kids that run a 4.3 are, like, unicorns.

[Mixed-Nutz]

All 40 times are crap unless they came from a SPARQ event.  The guys at those events are unreal, and they run 4.4 and 4.5 40's.

Figurs is the fastest guy I've seen in a KSU uniform.  He ran a 4.29 at the combine and was the fastest guy that year.

HS kids that run a 4.3 are, like, unicorns.

They still give you guidelines. 

[wabash909]

I'll take a 4 star over a 2 star every time.

[eastcat]

I would love to see Rivals give some kid who has never played football a 5* rating. Having him show up at Alabama, UF, Texas etc.. on scholarship would be priceless.

[sonofdaxjones]

I would love to see Rivals give some kid who has never played football a 5* rating. Having him show up at Alabama, UF, Texas etc.. on scholarship would be priceless.

That would be funny, but are you implying that guys like Saban just look at the recruiting rankings.   Maybe that's what Mack Brown does, but I doubt Saban or any other good coach does.

This is why I don't drink the Kool-Aid that Snyder is on the only guy who can find a 2 Star/5 Heart guy and make them good, while the rest of the college football coaches are just a bunch of star chasing buffoons who don't have a clue, don't evaluate and can't project players.