Basketball practice facilty

[fr@ck me]

The practice facilty bid today.  MW Builders was low bidder at $12.147 million, the budget was $14.6 million I believe.  Sounds like we have a new facility and if those numbers are correct we will have restrooms on the upper deck of the football.  Those bid today as well.  Should have enough money to do both.   

[BigCat]

The practice facilty bid today.  MW Builders was low bidder at $12.147 million, the budget was $14.6 million I believe.  Sounds like we have a new facility and if those numbers are correct we will have restrooms on the upper deck of the football.  Those bid today as well.  Should have enough money to do both.   

Why is the nubb facility going to be way more expensive than ours when they don't even care about hoops? Expensive=better.

This just in, our practice facility is going to be a cheap piece of garbage and will not even impress tucks.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

February 17, 2011

Good Afternoon Wildcat fans!

First off, congratulations to both Coach Martin and Coach Patterson for great basketball wins this week. The men’s team showed great courage Monday night with a tremendous win over No. 1 KU in front of a terrific and intense Bramlage Coliseum crowd, marking the program’s fourth all-time victory against a top-ranked team (and second in as many years).

Then last night the women’s team handily defeated Colorado, 78-51, for the 799th win in program history! With our next victory K-State will become just the 13th school in women’s basketball history and second in the Big 12 to record 800 wins!

Our basketball programs have a proud heritage of success and we have talked quite a bit over the last 20 months about making sure we continue to build our infrastructure to ensure that we can enhance our national position in the future.

Today we believe that we have taken a big step forward in that regard. As you read this letter, the construction bids for our proposed Basketball Training Facility and east side upper deck addition of restrooms at LHC Bill Snyder Family Stadium have been opened and we are very encouraged with the initial indications. The total estimated pre-bid cost of these two projects was approximately $22 million, which includes $20 million for the training facility and $2 million for the restroom addition. Pre-bid construction-only costs were estimated at $15 million and $1.5 million, respectively. Once we have fully examined the bids and the process has been finalized, we anticipate moving quickly to secure a construction contract. We would anticipate then announcing more details of the project timeline, including information regarding a groundbreaking ceremony.

I cannot express enough our appreciation to our fans nationwide for their participation and support of these projects. Because of the grass-roots support of K-Staters through the Ahearn Fund we are definitely making progress towards our goal of providing a world-class student-athlete experience here at Kansas State.  As a reminder, March 1 is the deadline to return your 2011 Ahearn Fund pledge form. Receiving pledges by March 1 helps us accurately project revenue for planning and budgeting purposes and enables the department to operate in a fiscally responsible manner.

Pledges for the Basketball Training Facility are approaching the $15 million mark. Wildcat fans who wish to do so can still make specific gifts for the BTF by clicking here.

That’s it for today. Baseball is off to California today to open their season, while women’s basketball is heading to Lincoln looking for win No. 800 Saturday night. We’ll see you this weekend as we host track and field, tennis and men’s basketball Friday, Saturday and Sunday right here in Manhattan.

Thank you for your continued support of K-State student-athletes.

Go Cats!

John Currie   

[KITNfury]

With all the extra loot, let's make life size bronze statues of every all american we have had and put them in there.

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

Why is the nubb facility going to be way more expensive than ours when they don't even care about hoops? Expensive=better.

This just in, our practice facility is going to be a cheap piece of garbage and will not even impress tucks.

YES, make it better Currie!  Spend more money!      (Seriously!)

[KITNfury]

Why is the nubb facility going to be way more expensive than ours when they don't even care about hoops? Expensive=better.

This just in, our practice facility is going to be a cheap piece of garbage and will not even impress tucks.

YES, make it better Currie!  Spend more money!      (Seriously!)

Yeah, part of me is like "we're just getting a sweet deal 'cause the construction industry is on the ropes", but deep down, I know we'll get a facility with tin siding and concrete floors.

[j-von]

With all the extra loot, let's make life size bronze statues of every all american we have had and put them in there.

I know where we can get some at a good price.

[sonofdaxjones]

   at some of you.

Nothing was cut out, or dumbed down that I am aware of.   It's just a buyers market in the construction market right now.   The Oklahoma NBA team had their practice facility come in $2 million under budget and they got exactly what was originally designed.  

Unless something has changed radically in the last month, we're getting a facility exactly as it appears on the kstate website.

[catzacker]

does Currie want towers?

[TaqMan]

With all the extra loot, let's make life size bronze statues of every all american we have had and put them in there.

I know where we can get some at a good price.

That dude is latched on to *something* under his shorts and probably has another tube of adhesive in his right hand. Nasty Texans.

[CNS]

Dax is right.  Also, of note, construction project budgets include two numbers, Hard Costs(construction related) and Soft Costs(Architects, engineers, permitting, rezoning, land acquisition, studies, ect).  Usually when you hear a project is $x, X actual includes both hard and soft cost.  So the $20M(or whatever) usually includes more than what MW Builders would be supplying in this case. 

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

But if the bids came in under budget, can't we just decide to make it even nicer?  Please?

[sys]

someone competent (not currie, no offense to his people) better look hard at those numbers.  i'd hate to see the thing get built and then find out is was all clad in cheap chinese limestone or something.

[BigCat]

 at some of you.

Nothing was cut out, or dumbed down that I am aware of.   It's just a buyers market in the construction market right now.   The Oklahoma NBA team had their practice facility come in $2 million under budget and they got exactly what was originally designed.  

Unless something has changed radically in the last month, we're getting a facility exactly as it appears on the kstate website.

I didn't suggest anything has been cut or eliminated. I'm glad there are so many out of work contractors and we are going to get a good deal on this thing. My stems from never being happy with the facility designs in the first place, added to the fact that Nebraska is prepared to spend more on theirs than we are. It's ridiculous. I have a gut feeling that ours will not compare favorably to others in the conference. We are K-State.

[yoga-like_abana]

Luckily Nebraska isn't in the Big XII 

[sonofdaxjones]

 at some of you.

Nothing was cut out, or dumbed down that I am aware of.   It's just a buyers market in the construction market right now.   The Oklahoma NBA team had their practice facility come in $2 million under budget and they got exactly what was originally designed.  

Unless something has changed radically in the last month, we're getting a facility exactly as it appears on the kstate website.

I didn't suggest anything has been cut or eliminated. I'm glad there are so many out of work contractors and we are going to get a good deal on this thing. My stems from never being happy with the facility designs in the first place, added to the fact that Nebraska is prepared to spend more on theirs than we are. It's ridiculous. I have a gut feeling that ours will not compare favorably to others in the conference. We are K-State.

Things can change, but at this time you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.   

[wabash909]

Nebraska has probably about 10,000sf worth of program in their basketball training facility dedicated to wrestling bullshit.  For those keeping track.

[Dugout DickStone]

Nebraska has probably about 10,000sf worth of program in their basketball training facility dedicated to wrestling bullcac.  For those keeping track.

lollers

[BigCat]

 at some of you.

Nothing was cut out, or dumbed down that I am aware of.   It's just a buyers market in the construction market right now.   The Oklahoma NBA team had their practice facility come in $2 million under budget and they got exactly what was originally designed.  

Unless something has changed radically in the last month, we're getting a facility exactly as it appears on the kstate website.

I didn't suggest anything has been cut or eliminated. I'm glad there are so many out of work contractors and we are going to get a good deal on this thing. My stems from never being happy with the facility designs in the first place, added to the fact that Nebraska is prepared to spend more on theirs than we are. It's ridiculous. I have a gut feeling that ours will not compare favorably to others in the conference. We are K-State.

Things can change, but at this time you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.   

And you are not paying attention. I am expressing my opinion. In the end, maybe it will compare favorably with other facilities and that I hope I am wrong about. But otherwise I DO know what I'm talking about when I say I am probably going to be displeased with the final product, no matter what. I have seen the renderings. Even if they WERE awesome I would still be pissed. Feeling depressed and hating my school is what I love about K-State. That's what you don't get.

[fr@ck me]

someone competent (not currie, no offense to his people) better look hard at those numbers.  i'd hate to see the thing get built and then find out is was all clad in cheap chinese limestone or something.

That is what the architect is for.  They specify exactly what you can use on the project.  So if they don't like cheap chinese limestone then you can't use it no matter what.  they are building at the right time because material prices are starting to go back up.  They are lucky to get it locked in at this price.  They still have the option to value engineer in some upgrades if they want.

[sonofdaxjones]

Still trying to envision the facility that Big Cat was looking for, sounds like it was somewhere between Cowboys Stadium and the Staples Center.

[wabash909]

http://www.huskers.com//pdf8/703792.pdf?&SPSID=20&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100

 

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://www.huskers.com//pdf8/703792.pdf?&SPSID=20&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100

 

Is it just me or does that concrete slab leading out of the second level look strange? The part on the left side of that little grass "v" looks very steep, and the part on the right side looks almost flat.

[Mikeyis4dcats]

unless Currie misspoke, the numbers do NOT indicate the project came in under budget.  rather, Currie is discussing the TOTAL budget ($20mil) versus the CONSTRUCTION budget ($15mil).

The difference being the soft costs - design fees, financing costs, preliminary expenses (such as renderings, etc.), contingencies, etc.

[sonofdaxjones]

If M&W is awarded the bid, then the construction bids came in over $2.4 million under budget.    Those who would know have told me that if this bid had come out a few years ago, during much better times for construction companies, that the specs on this bid likely would have driven bids in the $15-$16 million plus range.