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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2011, 08:43:23 PM »
Be nice to Obama voters!

Financial stupidity is not exclusive to members of a particular party.  

You're deflecting.  Back to the point where you acquiesce and say Dave Ramsey is a rough ridin' idiot.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2011, 08:54:46 PM »
Be nice to Obama voters!

Financial stupidity is not exclusive to members of a particular party.  

You're deflecting.  Back to the point where you acquiesce and say Dave Ramsey is a rough ridin' idiot.

c'mon, bro. Act Your Wage

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2011, 08:58:15 PM »
Be nice to Obama voters!

Financial stupidity is not exclusive to members of a particular party. 

You're deflecting.  Back to the point where you acquiesce and say Dave Ramsey is a rough ridin' idiot.
OT: I've always noticed the people who hate "socialism" the most are the people who would obviously reap the most rewards from it. 
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2011, 08:59:45 PM »
Can you really use a debit card to book a room? I always thought that was a no-no. What a crazy world we live in.

Debit cards work just like a credit card.  You can also reserve a rental car with one!  *gasp*

And when the pump at the gas station screws up and you have extra charges on your debit card, your actual balance available to pay bills is impacted, whereas you have time to work with your credit card company to resolve the mix up.

When you purchase items on the Internet with a debit card, if something goes wrong, someone is taking money out of your accounts, and you have no money until it gets resolved, whereas you work with your credit card company to resolve the fraudulent charges.

Anyone who tells anyone to not get a credit card is a rough ridin' idiot.  Therefore, Dave Ramsey is a rough ridin' idiot.

If you keep money in your account, then this isn't a big deal.

The problem with using a debit card is there are often holds placed on the account. If you fill up at a gas station they'll often times place a $75 hold when you run the card which goes through immediately and the true amount will go through in a batch when the store runs all its transactions for a day or week. A bank will treat a hold exactly like a charge without showing the difference in your balance.

Also happens at restaurants, hotels and rental cars.

And I'd never, ever get a hotel or rental car with a debit card because it is almost impossible to dispute any "extra" fees tacked on. A consumer has much more protection through a good credit card.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2011, 09:05:25 PM »
Be nice to Obama voters!

Financial stupidity is not exclusive to members of a particular party. 

You're deflecting.  Back to the point where you acquiesce and say Dave Ramsey is a effing idiot.
OT: I've always noticed the people who hate "socialism" the most are the people who would obviously reap the most rewards from it. 

Are you talking about the Mafia or Politicians/Govt Officials???

OT:  I always think its funny that, despite living proof and recent history as evidence, some people think socialism helps the less well off.
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2011, 09:09:01 PM »
Can you really use a debit card to book a room? I always thought that was a no-no. What a crazy world we live in.

Debit cards work just like a credit card.  You can also reserve a rental car with one!  *gasp*

And when the pump at the gas station screws up and you have extra charges on your debit card, your actual balance available to pay bills is impacted, whereas you have time to work with your credit card company to resolve the mix up.

When you purchase items on the Internet with a debit card, if something goes wrong, someone is taking money out of your accounts, and you have no money until it gets resolved, whereas you work with your credit card company to resolve the fraudulent charges.

Anyone who tells anyone to not get a credit card is a effing idiot.  Therefore, Dave Ramsey is a effing idiot.

If you keep money in your account, then this isn't a big deal.

The problem with using a debit card is there are often holds placed on the account. If you fill up at a gas station they'll often times place a $75 hold when you run the card which goes through immediately and the true amount will go through in a batch when the store runs all its transactions for a day or week. A bank will treat a hold exactly like a charge without showing the difference in your balance.

Also happens at restaurants, hotels and rental cars.

And I'd never, ever get a hotel or rental car with a debit card because it is almost impossible to dispute any "extra" fees tacked on. A consumer has much more protection through a good credit card.

What you've described is illegal.  Google Reg E and Reg CC for reference.
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2011, 09:14:20 PM »
Can you really use a debit card to book a room? I always thought that was a no-no. What a crazy world we live in.

Debit cards work just like a credit card.  You can also reserve a rental car with one!  *gasp*

And when the pump at the gas station screws up and you have extra charges on your debit card, your actual balance available to pay bills is impacted, whereas you have time to work with your credit card company to resolve the mix up.

When you purchase items on the Internet with a debit card, if something goes wrong, someone is taking money out of your accounts, and you have no money until it gets resolved, whereas you work with your credit card company to resolve the fraudulent charges.

Anyone who tells anyone to not get a credit card is a effing idiot.  Therefore, Dave Ramsey is a effing idiot.

If you keep money in your account, then this isn't a big deal.

The problem with using a debit card is there are often holds placed on the account. If you fill up at a gas station they'll often times place a $75 hold when you run the card which goes through immediately and the true amount will go through in a batch when the store runs all its transactions for a day or week. A bank will treat a hold exactly like a charge without showing the difference in your balance.

Also happens at restaurants, hotels and rental cars.

And I'd never, ever get a hotel or rental car with a debit card because it is almost impossible to dispute any "extra" fees tacked on. A consumer has much more protection through a good credit card.

What you've described is illegal.  Google Reg E and Reg CC for reference.

you're an idiot, and have proven (once again, in this thread) that you have no idea what you are talking about.  there are holds on your debit card all the time, it's not illegal.  ask dave ramsey.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2011, 09:29:27 PM »
So basically people that use credit cards responsibly and people that don't use credit cards, but spend responsibly, can do okay financially?  Who knew.  End thread, retards.  :goodbyecruelworld:

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2011, 09:31:32 PM »
Can you really use a debit card to book a room? I always thought that was a no-no. What a crazy world we live in.

Debit cards work just like a credit card.  You can also reserve a rental car with one!  *gasp*

And when the pump at the gas station screws up and you have extra charges on your debit card, your actual balance available to pay bills is impacted, whereas you have time to work with your credit card company to resolve the mix up.

When you purchase items on the Internet with a debit card, if something goes wrong, someone is taking money out of your accounts, and you have no money until it gets resolved, whereas you work with your credit card company to resolve the fraudulent charges.

Anyone who tells anyone to not get a credit card is a effing idiot.  Therefore, Dave Ramsey is a effing idiot.

If you keep money in your account, then this isn't a big deal.

The problem with using a debit card is there are often holds placed on the account. If you fill up at a gas station they'll often times place a $75 hold when you run the card which goes through immediately and the true amount will go through in a batch when the store runs all its transactions for a day or week. A bank will treat a hold exactly like a charge without showing the difference in your balance.

Also happens at restaurants, hotels and rental cars.

And I'd never, ever get a hotel or rental car with a debit card because it is almost impossible to dispute any "extra" fees tacked on. A consumer has much more protection through a good credit card.

What you've described is illegal.  Google Reg E and Reg CC for reference.

you're an idiot, and have proven (once again, in this thread) that you have no idea what you are talking about.  there are holds on your debit card all the time, it's not illegal.  ask dave ramsey.

Unless you jackoffs are talking about placing a hold on the funds you've already spent [in which case, no sh*t] a merchant can't hold more than he's authorized to (max of 5 days).  Your bank can place a hold on a deposit, see Reg CC.  

I'm guessing you don't know what a hold is, or you're confused by your online bank accounts "pending transactions" section.  No worries, you dumbsonofabitch, you'll get me one of these days.

FYI OK_Cat - it's also illegal to kite checks, so knock it off

Also, the keytar is not an instrument
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2011, 09:32:13 PM »
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2011, 09:36:35 PM »
So basically people that use credit cards responsibly and people that don't use credit cards, but spend responsibly, can do okay financially?  Who knew.  End thread, retards.  :goodbyecruelworld:

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2011, 09:48:24 PM »
Tell all you geniuses what.  Why don't one of you call in to his show and ask to debate him about credit cards.  If he concedes that you win, I'll not only fund you that $10 for the ticket, but I'll fund you $100 on top of that.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2011, 10:19:14 PM »
tell me the guy at least writes some of his own songs.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2011, 10:21:50 PM »
Tell all you geniuses what.  Why don't one of you call in to his show and ask to debate him about credit cards.  If he concedes that you win, I'll not only fund you that $10 for the ticket, but I'll fund you $100 on top of that.

Here's the extent of the conversation:

Me: I use a credit card and keep a low balance that I pay off at the end of the month, every month.

Ramsey: What happens if a scenario occurs where you need to carry a balance.

Me: Then I budget a payoff as quickly as possible.

Wow.  Tough convo.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2011, 10:38:11 PM »
Tell all you geniuses what.  Why don't one of you call in to his show and ask to debate him about credit cards.  If he concedes that you win, I'll not only fund you that $10 for the ticket, but I'll fund you $100 on top of that.

Here's the extent of the conversation:

Me: I use a credit card and keep a low balance that I pay off at the end of the month, every month.

Ramsey: What happens if a scenario occurs where you need to carry a balance.

Me: Then I budget a payoff as quickly as possible.

Wow.  Tough convo.

Yeah.  Not how it would go.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2011, 10:40:45 PM »
i'm trying to find some of this guys stuff on youtube but can't. what's the name of his band?

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2011, 10:48:45 PM »
i'm trying to find some of this guys stuff on youtube but can't. what's the name of his band?
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2011, 10:51:46 PM »
So basically people that use credit cards responsibly and people that don't use credit cards, but spend responsibly, can do okay financially?  Who knew.  End thread, retards.  :goodbyecruelworld:

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2011, 10:53:30 PM »
You sound like a real heartless bad person.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2011, 11:00:51 PM »
Tell all you geniuses what.  Why don't one of you call in to his show and ask to debate him about credit cards.  If he concedes that you win, I'll not only fund you that $10 for the ticket, but I'll fund you $100 on top of that.

Here's the extent of the conversation:

Me: I use a credit card and keep a low balance that I pay off at the end of the month, every month.

Ramsey: What happens if a scenario occurs where you need to carry a balance.

Me: Then I budget a payoff as quickly as possible.

Wow.  Tough convo.

Yeah.  Not how it would go.

No crap.  He'd probably put up a lot of talking points about variable interest rates, fine print, etc.

The bottom line is that it's pointless for someone with an 800+ credit score ( :gocho:) to have a conversation with a guy who doesn't like credit.  I know how to use credit.  I know when to use it, and I know the advantages of having a good score.  His message is good for people who don't know how credit works, or they simply get more and use more than they can afford.

Credit, specifically credit cards, helped me out of a couple of jams in my early twenties when I had some medical bills and not a lot of money to my name.  It was paid off with minimal impact to me, financially.  However, just starting out, I didn't have the kind of money to cover them, and I wasn't about to ask my parents for the cash.  So, I used the credit card, paid it off in a couple of months, and that was that.

It's easy to sit there and say credit is bad when you're talking to a bunch of people who don't know how to handle money.  It's kind of like a guy who runs AA meetings can sit there and talk about how alcohol is bad to a bunch of alcoholics.  Anything that can have that much of an impact on your life must be used responsibly, and if it isn't, it can eff you up.  It's easy to screen calls and tell Joe in Tallahassee that it's probably not a good idea to finance an $80,000 camper, or tell Jeff in Kansas that he should pay for stuff on the Internet with his debit card so he doesn't get himself into trouble financially by buying that really sweet Dale Earnhardt memorial futon on eBay.

I guess the bottom line is that people should be educated about personal finance, but in my opinion, they should learn how to use credit to their advantage and not take advice from some backasswards extremist that wants to keep them from it because they might hurt themselves with it.  He'd be doing his listeners a greater service by teaching them how to use it wisely instead of telling them to pay it all off and pay for crap with cash. But that would require him to actually explain things to a caller in segments longer than one or two minutes in length and not sound like a dry, sanctimonious ass.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2011, 11:05:38 PM »
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2011, 06:47:25 AM »
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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »
Name me the rich person who says the reason they got rich was because of an 800 credit score (aka "the banks love me because they make a lot of money on me score") and using a credit card.

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Re: Dave Ramsey LIVE
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2011, 09:16:25 AM »
Name me the rich person who says the reason they got rich was because of an 800 credit score (aka "the banks love me because they make a lot of money on me score") and using a credit card.
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