JHR

[Clevey 2 Times]

To be specific, his hand compared to Hibbert. I'm not a JO hater, I'm just a JO realist. Talk of him as an NBA player is loony.

Possibly, though I'd probably give JHR about the same chance of playing in the league as Jake.

Hmm, that is an interesting comparison. I think you're right. If Jake can defend PGs in the NBA, then maybe, but I'm not sure how well he'll be able to do that. He's too small to guard SG.

[kso_FAN]

To be specific, his hand compared to Hibbert. I'm not a JO hater, I'm just a JO realist. Talk of him as an NBA player is loony.

Possibly, though I'd probably give JHR about the same chance of playing in the league as Jake.

Hmm, that is an interesting comparison. I think you're right. If Jake can defend PGs in the NBA, then maybe, but I'm not sure how well he'll be able to do that. He's too small to guard SG.

Yeah, I agree.

An NBA team is just as likely to take a chance at a 7 footer who is not dominant yet shows some flashes as it is a really good undersized college combo guard.

[wes mantooth]

To be specific, his hand compared to Hibbert. I'm not a JO hater, I'm just a JO realist. Talk of him as an NBA player is loony.

Possibly, though I'd probably give JHR about the same chance of playing in the league as Jake.

If you mean both players are zero %, then maybe.  If you mean both are 1% or greater, absolutely not.  What I'm getting at is JHR has a solid zero % chance of playing in the league.  thanks

[BigCat]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

[wes mantooth]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

[SdK]

Eric Chenowith. Bill Wennington. Chris Dudley. That Bradley [redacted].

If it were still the time in the NBA where those guys were playing...I say hellfuckingyeah to JHR in the NBA.

But the league has changed. JHR will have to come close to doubling up where he is now before he is considered for the NBA.

[Clevey 2 Times]

To be specific, his hand compared to Hibbert. I'm not a JO hater, I'm just a JO realist. Talk of him as an NBA player is loony.

Possibly, though I'd probably give JHR about the same chance of playing in the league as Jake.

If you mean both players are zero %, then maybe.  If you mean both are 1% or greater, absolutely not.  What I'm getting at is JHR has a solid zero % chance of playing in the league.  thanks

Wes ended this thread nicely here. I think this about says it all.

[BigCat]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

pfft yeah from age 17 to 19. Ever heard of man muscles? I don't think his chances are good but to dismiss them totally isn't right either. Three years from now, JO in the NBA 10% chance. I agree if you think Jake has ANY chance so does JO.

[wes mantooth]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

pfft yeah from age 17 to 19. Ever heard of man muscles? I don't think his chances are good but to dismiss them totally isn't right either. Three years from now, JO in the NBA 10% chance. I agree if you think Jake has ANY chance so does JO.

yeah i don't agree with that because it's not just the physical strength, it's the talent.  he doesn't have nba talent.  can he get better, sure.  but not to the point where he'd get an nba shot because where he's at now is literally not anywhere close. 

[BigCat]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

pfft yeah from age 17 to 19. Ever heard of man muscles? I don't think his chances are good but to dismiss them totally isn't right either. Three years from now, JO in the NBA 10% chance. I agree if you think Jake has ANY chance so does JO.

yeah i don't agree with that because it's not just the physical strength, it's the talent.  he doesn't have nba talent.  can he get better, sure.  but not to the point where he'd get an nba shot because where he's at now is literally not anywhere close. 

We are not talking about him having an NBA career just somebody being dumb/ballsy enough to take a flyer on him. There are a LOT of dudes I can think of that I never believed had the talent to get to the NBA but somehow did. See recent players, KU.

[wes mantooth]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

pfft yeah from age 17 to 19. Ever heard of man muscles? I don't think his chances are good but to dismiss them totally isn't right either. Three years from now, JO in the NBA 10% chance. I agree if you think Jake has ANY chance so does JO.

yeah i don't agree with that because it's not just the physical strength, it's the talent.  he doesn't have nba talent.  can he get better, sure.  but not to the point where he'd get an nba shot because where he's at now is literally not anywhere close. 

We are not talking about him having an NBA career just somebody being dumb/ballsy enough to take a flyer on him. There are a LOT of dudes I can think of that I never believed had the talent to get to the NBA but somehow did. See recent players, KU.

but you are kinda making my point, i mean obviously cole is signing sandwiches at goodcents so he couldn't hack it, so how would jhr get a sniff?  cole was actually a good college player.

[michigancat]

godammit people

[kso_FAN]

godammit people

[BigCat]

It's not such a crazy idea. He has two more years to develop his body and his game. I mean, when you are 7'2"+ you should automatically be better at basketball than 6 billion people. If he gets the PT, the aggressiveness/competitiveness and the belief that he can, he MIGHT translate to the NBA. Wait til next year at this time. We are still evaluating him based on his teabagging of the twins and 5-7 shooting.

He's already had 2 years to develop his body.  He's not getting much bigger or stronger.  He is what he is, a tall guy that will be inconsistent.  Not a sniff at the league, retards.

pfft yeah from age 17 to 19. Ever heard of man muscles? I don't think his chances are good but to dismiss them totally isn't right either. Three years from now, JO in the NBA 10% chance. I agree if you think Jake has ANY chance so does JO.

yeah i don't agree with that because it's not just the physical strength, it's the talent.  he doesn't have nba talent.  can he get better, sure.  but not to the point where he'd get an nba shot because where he's at now is literally not anywhere close.  

We are not talking about him having an NBA career just somebody being dumb/ballsy enough to take a flyer on him. There are a LOT of dudes I can think of that I never believed had the talent to get to the NBA but somehow did. See recent players, KU.

but you are kinda making my point, i mean obviously cole is signing sandwiches at goodcents so he couldn't hack it, so how would jhr get a sniff?  cole was actually a good college player.

I think our disagreement is slight. Although Cole was a terrific college player I pretty much knew he would be a total failure at the next level. Meanwhile, there are guys who were jokejobs in college and are pulling NBA checks. Who knows what NBA scouts like is basically what I am pointing out. The allure of the NBA imo is seeing who are the failures and who succeeds. The mystery of NBA minds is the only other point of interest.

[sys]

his hands are terrible.  unbelievable number of balls he doesn't catch cleanly.  i'll have something up in my sig about that in a few minutes.

[BigCat]

his hands are terrible.  unbelievable number of balls he doesn't catch cleanly.  i'll have something up in my sig about that in a few minutes.

hurry

[michigancat]

his hands are terrible.  unbelievable number of balls he doesn't catch cleanly.  i'll have something up in my sig about that in a few minutes.

Please post in another thread. I don't have sigs turned on, and I won't be returning to this thread.

[sys]

Please post in another thread. I don't have sigs turned on, and I won't be returning to this thread.

that's a shame.

[kso_FAN]

Please post in another thread. I don't have sigs turned on, and I won't be returning to this thread.

that's a shame.

Yeah, plus with sigs turned off all you have to do is click on a poster's name to see their sig...

[gatoveintisiete]

his hands are terrible.  unbelievable number of balls he doesn't catch cleanly.  i'll have something up in my sig about that in a few minutes.

Please post in another thread. I don't have sigs turned on, and I won't be returning to this thread.

OMG, we should re-route everything goEMAW through this thread now, JHR.com , somebody tell beems. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

There aren't as many bitches to dunk on in the NBA.

[BigCat]

[MakeItRain]

his hands are terrible.  unbelievable number of balls he doesn't catch cleanly.  i'll have something up in my sig about that in a few minutes.

Kind of weird that he fumbles so many balls when he is first on the team in TORate and 12th in the conference among all players playing at least 30% of his available minutes.  He must be lucky as eff.

either that or you're over exaggerating how bad his hands are and how many balls he doesn't catch cleanly

[sys]

you're over exaggerating how bad his hands are and how many balls he doesn't catch cleanly.

don't think so.  not a huge impact on turnover rate, because you're usually talking about rebounds he doesn't control or passes he does't catch cleanly - resulting in the defense catching up to him before he gains control, not turnovers.

i think most big man turnovers are travels, charges and losing a dribble in traffic.

[MakeItRain]

you're over exaggerating how bad his hands are and how many balls he doesn't catch cleanly.

don't think so.  not a huge impact on turnover rate, because you're usually talking about rebounds he doesn't control or passes he does't catch cleanly - resulting in the defense catching up to him before he gains control, not turnovers.

i think most big man turnovers are travels, charges and losing a dribble in traffic.

I'm cool with this, I still don't think it is an unbelievable number.  I also think some of this can be attributed with his frame being unable to absorb any contact on rebounds whatsoever.