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Offline Pete

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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2011, 11:49:13 AM »
I have more respect for the "we won't ever get the elites so we need to coach them up," view point than the "our recruits really ARE elite, but simply hidden gems" view point.  The latter is just stupid.  rough ridin' stupid.

The jackasses on Wabash who are defending our amazing low recruting ranking are doing so based on theories of Snyder's recruiting that were developed years ago, and have since been disproven time and again.

Brent Venables ain't walking through that door....
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 11:53:36 AM »
Quote from: Pete on January 24, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
I have more respect for the "we won't ever get the elites so we need to coach them up," view point than the "our recruits really ARE elite, but simply hidden gems" view point.  The latter is just stupid.  rough ridin' stupid.

The jackasses on Wabash who are defending our amazing low recruting ranking are doing so based on theories of Snyder's recruiting that were developed years ago, and have since been disproven time and again.

Brent Venables ain't walking through that door....


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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2011, 12:19:28 PM »
Quote from: steve dave on January 24, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
Good recruiting convo. going on GPC right now discussing our recruiting class sitting at dead last in the B12.  It's only in it's first page but they've already covered:

-Yeah, well, Ron Prince had some highly ranked classes and you see how those turned out
-Obvious Turner Gill/Ron Prince comparo to explain Turner's class being ranked much higher
-Glen Mason and Terry Allen out recruited Bill according to Rivals and he destroyed them
-It's not the talent you bring in it's how you coach them
-Rivals rankings are bullshit
-Stars don't matter
-I'll trust our staff's evaluation of talent over Rivals and other coaches who haven't offered
-We should be able to count the grey shirt kids who we counted last year in this year's class again
-We are addressing issues we have and this is more important than talent
-Totally serious references to hidden gems and diamonds in the rough


-Texas always has a top 5 class and look at them this season
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2011, 12:25:32 PM »
Quote from: _33 on January 24, 2011, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: steve dave on January 24, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
Good recruiting convo. going on GPC right now discussing our recruiting class sitting at dead last in the B12.  It's only in it's first page but they've already covered:

-Yeah, well, Ron Prince had some highly ranked classes and you see how those turned out
-Obvious Turner Gill/Ron Prince comparo to explain Turner's class being ranked much higher
-Glen Mason and Terry Allen out recruited Bill according to Rivals and he destroyed them
-It's not the talent you bring in it's how you coach them
-Rivals rankings are bullcac
-Stars don't matter
-I'll trust our staff's evaluation of talent over Rivals and other coaches who haven't offered
-We should be able to count the grey shirt kids who we counted last year in this year's class again
-We are addressing issues we have and this is more important than talent
-Totally serious references to hidden gems and diamonds in the rough


-Texas always has a top 5 class and look at them this season

These anomolies DO happen.  For example, I will predict that the frequency with which we see UT have a season like last year is approximately the frequency with which we will see KSU have a season like UT had the year before. 
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2011, 12:32:16 PM »
Quote from: steve dave on January 24, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
Good recruiting convo. going on GPC right now discussing our recruiting class sitting at dead last in the B12.  It's only in it's first page but they've already covered:

-Yeah, well, Ron Prince had some highly ranked classes and you see how those turned out
-Obvious Turner Gill/Ron Prince comparo to explain Turner's class being ranked much higher
-Glen Mason and Terry Allen out recruited Bill according to Rivals and he destroyed them
-It's not the talent you bring in it's how you coach them
-Rivals rankings are bullcac
-Stars don't matter
-I'll trust our staff's evaluation of talent over Rivals and other coaches who haven't offered
-We should be able to count the grey shirt kids who we counted last year in this year's class again
-We are addressing issues we have and this is more important than talent
-Totally serious references to hidden gems and diamonds in the rough


Excellent summary, stephen david. My favorite one is bolded. I'm pretty sure the GPCers are going to count Bryce Brown in at least three more classes, too.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2011, 01:35:12 PM »
Quote from: Pete on January 23, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!!  We just landed three-star DE Hunter Davis!!!!  However, this does not raise our BCS offer count.

I think this is exactly what Bill is shooting for with waiting until Sr. year to make offers.  :goodbyecruelworld:
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2011, 01:45:35 PM »
Quote from: ArchE_Cat on January 24, 2011, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: Pete on January 23, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!!  We just landed three-star DE Hunter Davis!!!!  However, this does not raise our BCS offer count.

I think this is exactly what Bill is shooting for with waiting until Sr. year to make offers.  :goodbyecruelworld:

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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2011, 03:55:39 PM »
Alright, it's time to change the name of this board to Kay Jewelers or something Jewelry Store-related, because I have been seeing those goddamn phrases "diamond in the rough" and "hidden gems" pop up everywhere a Tard speaks or posts on an internet website to try and talk about out shitty recruiting.  I had a talk with my Tard neighbor on Sunday and he said diamond-in-the-rough several times.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2011, 04:23:09 PM »
powerespect:  "_____ is a hidden gem...a real diamond-in-the-rough."
MadCat:  "He is what we call a 'Sex Stone'."
powerespect:  "I like the sound of that!"
MadCat:  "It's another rough ridin' rock."

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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2011, 04:25:24 PM »
Quote from: Pete on January 24, 2011, 12:25:32 PM
These anomolies DO happen.  For example, I will predict that the frequency with which we see UT have a season like last year is approximately the frequency with which we will see KSU have a season like UT had the year before. 

I can only wish.  :frown:
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2011, 05:20:22 PM »
KU landed probably last recruit.....a GASP....juco kid.  Tundra Bukake (LB) or something like that.  He had a BCS offer!!!

Is Crabtree gone from rivals?
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 05:27:48 PM by WavetheWheat »
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2011, 05:30:29 PM »
Quote from: WavetheWheat on January 24, 2011, 05:20:22 PM
KU landed probably last recruit.....a GASP....juco kid.  Tundra Bukake (LB) or something like that.  He had a BCS offer!!!

Is Crabtree gone from rivals?

No doubt the kid's classes have been pre-audited so they already know he can overcome the herculean obstacles ku places in front of Juco transfers.

Congrats WtW and congrats Tundra, no doubt you're a Rhodes Scholar.



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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 05:37:15 PM »
With the University of Kansas' incredible ability to make Juco players a complete non-factor I wouldn't be to concerned Dax.   Not sure we have had an impact juco since I was in school.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 05:40:46 PM »
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Quote from: WavetheWheat on January 24, 2011, 05:37:15 PM
With the University of Kansas' incredible ability to make Juco players a complete non-factor I wouldn't be to concerned Dax.   Not sure we have had an impact juco since I was in school.

Whitamore a transfer?
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2011, 06:39:37 PM »
Quote from: Pete on January 24, 2011, 05:40:46 PM
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Quote from: WavetheWheat on January 24, 2011, 05:37:15 PM
With the University of Kansas' incredible ability to make Juco players a complete non-factor I wouldn't be to concerned Dax.   Not sure we have had an impact juco since I was in school.

Whitamore a transfer?

Yep, Fort Scott CC I believe.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2011, 06:43:48 PM »
Quote from: WavetheWheat on January 24, 2011, 05:20:22 PM
Is Crabtree gone from rivals?

I think he works for ESPN now.  May be making that up though.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2011, 06:48:01 PM »
"Cubic zirconium in the rough" is the more correct description of almost all of these guys. "
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2011, 06:55:23 PM »
I'm not sure we can fully evaluate these youngsters until we see their track times and shotput/javelin distances.  Pete, pls update the lists.

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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2011, 12:08:44 AM »
Quote from: MadCat on January 24, 2011, 04:23:09 PM
powerespect:  "_____ is a hidden gem...a real diamond-in-the-rough."
MadCat:  "He is what we call a 'Sex Stone'."
powerespect:  "I like the sound of that!"
MadCat:  "It's another rough ridin' rock."

[spoiler]Archaeology humor[/spoiler]
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2011, 07:36:12 AM »
Pete, does Weber State give us any more numbers in any of the fields?  tia
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2011, 08:46:29 AM »
Quote from: steve dave on January 25, 2011, 07:36:12 AM
Pete, does Weber State give us any more numbers in any of the fields?  tia

Good question. Also worth noting that nepotism is now contagious and has apparently spread to the Lockett family & friends. And people are worried about diseases from NBAF  :lol:
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2011, 04:32:16 AM »
who knows, they could turn out to be good.
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2011, 12:53:16 PM »
Does it baffle anyone else that any tard would actually pay for a 'premium' site to see this load of crap before anyone else does? 

Tard 1 "Wow, can you believe we got that kicker that also was looking at Boise?"
Tard 2 " Yeah, he's gonna rock and make Cherry look so stupid."
Tard 1 " Should we tell Dobbie about him?"
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Re: How the 2011 KSU recruiting class stacks up against KU and ISU - BCS Offers
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2011, 01:36:25 PM »
Well, KU just put quite a bit more room between themselves and us....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/football/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055
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