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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2011, 10:44:50 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD. 

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2011, 10:55:03 AM »
I hate Missouri more than any other Big 12 north team, please beat them for me.

 :eek:  you do realize ku and nu are both in the north right?

I stand by my statement.

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2011, 10:58:15 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD. 

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.

I think the best obvious explanation is that _FAN's data is one game's worth

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2011, 10:58:50 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD. 

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.


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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2011, 11:02:06 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD. 

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.

I think the best obvious explanation is that _FAN's data is one game's worth

I think you mean two game's worth

It's higher at home for the season as well.  Just not that much higher.

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2011, 11:03:08 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD.  

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.

I think the best obvious explanation is that _FAN's data is one game's worth

I think you mean two game's worth

It's higher at home for the season as well.  Just not that much higher.

Yes, one game each team's home court.  Every team in America's is higher at home.  I doubt Mizzou's is a statistical anomaly compared to other major program's home court advantage. 

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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2011, 11:03:34 AM »
I don't know why but I think we win this one.  All logic says no, but my heart and mind are saying we have our best game shooting and we shut down their guards.  We only have 13 turn overs.  And dominate the offensive boards.

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2011, 11:03:41 AM »
I don't want to play this game today   :frown:
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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2011, 11:14:53 AM »
While I'm glad my hunch has been verified, I have no idea what FT Rate is.  :confused:

FT rate = FT attempts/FG attempts

In Manhattan last year MU shot 13 FTs compared to 43 attempts in Columbia. Cats shot 30 in Columbia and 34 in the OOD. 

Is there any rational explanation for MU's FT rate being so much higher at home than on the road?  I would assume part of it is that they usually win at home, therefore shoot more end of game FTs.  Perhaps the reason they're winning is because they get to the line more often during those games.  This is all very fishy.

I think the best obvious explanation is that _FAN's data is one game's worth

I think you mean two game's worth

It's higher at home for the season as well.  Just not that much higher.

Yes, one game each team's home court.  Every team in America's is higher at home.  I doubt Mizzou's is a statistical anomaly compared to other major program's home court advantage. 

steve dave (HBBIQ poster) is correct.  But last year's numbers were pretty ridiculous. 

Most good (and agressive) teams are going to get more calls at home.  I do think it could be a bit more pronounced in this match-up though b/c we tend to foul a lot, and the way MU plays could lead to more fouling.

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« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2011, 11:58:26 AM »
I think it's bullshit when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

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« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2011, 12:09:20 PM »
I think it's bullcac when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

I think this is an accurate prediction of the game. This leads me to the question -- "do i -- cough cough - go home from work early today so i can watch" or do i stay at work because I'll just get all pissed off at the game and waste time off??

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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2011, 12:24:40 PM »
I think it's bullcac when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

I think this is an accurate prediction of the game. This leads me to the question -- "do i -- cough cough - go home from work early today so i can watch" or do i stay at work because I'll just get all pissed off at the game and waste time off??

I find that lashing out at my television is an excellent way to vent.  Very good method of relaxation.  Usually in a pretty good mood after a game no matter what happens.  Afterall, it is a game.

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Re: Mizzou game thread
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2011, 12:25:41 PM »
Go to a bar and chokeout all comers.

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« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2011, 12:29:35 PM »
Comin in at #24 in ESPN rankings, thats hilarious we are still ranked.

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« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2011, 12:48:27 PM »
expect to lay an egg boys.  :cry:

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« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2011, 12:54:08 PM »
Comin in at #24 in ESPN rankings, thats hilarious we are still ranked.

If we win our next four we should be ranked #1

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« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2011, 01:01:26 PM »
Comin in at #24 in ESPN rankings, thats hilarious we are still ranked.

If we win our next four we should be ranked #1

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« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2011, 01:17:06 PM »
absolutely terrified.  would love to not watch, but that's impossible.

I concur.
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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2011, 01:22:39 PM »
I think it's bullshit when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

I expect nothing less.
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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2011, 01:29:46 PM »
I think it's bullshit when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

Well said.

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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2011, 01:40:05 PM »
since we now play 4 smalls and spread the court, i wish we had sutton back.
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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2011, 04:06:13 PM »
Hopefully:

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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2011, 04:10:39 PM »
I think it's bullcac when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

Meh. Sometimes this is true, but just as much the more aggressive team gets the benefit of the doubt. Then teams get soft and quit moving to get open and moving their feet on defense.   There are exceptions, but usually what you predicted happens against teams like MU because too many players fold under pressure, especially on the road. This may very well happen to the Cats today.

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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2011, 04:11:40 PM »


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« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2011, 04:21:24 PM »
I think it's bullcac when teams that play small get lots of fouls because their guards drive into the lane, out of control, and bump into big guys when shooting/passing (aka the bailout call).  I expect lots of fouls to be called with mu guards trying to make circus layup shots when our bigs jump straight up in the air to block/alter their shots.  I expect to get zero of these calls on our end.  I will cuss at the TV to express my displeasure.

I expect Kelly and JamSam to get two quick fouls each in the 1st half on calls like these and then sit out the last 10 minutes of the 1st half.  At this time our offense will go into a complete funk and MU will go on a large run (meanwhile Wally and JHR will pick up two quick fouls each).  We will come back in the second half but fall short because the FT rate for MU will pick up dramatically in the last 8 minutes of the game (based on similar type foul calls) in the referees attempt to appease the crowd and a squishy wrinkled face Mike Anderson.  Frank will go ballistic and get lots of camera time.

I will then come on here and blame the entire game on the officiating just so the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) posters on this board can call me a tard.  In reality we will lose the game because we have a sh*t ton of TO's and actually do foul the opponent at an alarming rate.

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