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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2010, 01:56:50 PM »
One of the big problems I have with Snyder is that he allowed his name to be put on the stadium. It seemed like a cool idea at the time, but in retrospect, I think it hurt the (possible) attractiveness of the K-State job. While most reasonable fans want a new coach, it's going to be extremely difficult to get an up-and-comer who is interested in sticking around for the long term.

Now, it was going to be difficult anyway because it's MHK. I get that. But K-State no longer offers a coach the opportunity to come in and make a name for himself the way Snyder did in 1989. Not when you must drive down LHC Bill Snyder HIGHWAY to get into Manhattan, and not when you have to coach every day at LHC Bill Snyder FAMILY STADIUM.

Who wants to put up with that?

Say what you want about Ron Prince, but Snyder didn't do him any favors. He still made his home in Manhattan and even in retirement was extremely visible on campus and in the community. Aside from a letter to the Collegian, Snyder never once offered support for Prince. And when the idiots called for Snyder to return, you got the impression that he couldn't get enough of the attention, that he wanted to come back and prove to everybody he could do it again. Snyder has an ego, and he does a terrible job of trying to hide it.

By comparison, Bobby Bowden left (was forced out) at Florida State, and has come to accept it, even though he isn't happy about the way things went down. He doesn't live in Tallahassee and has only been to one FSU home game all season, and that's because he was invited as a special guest. "I don't want to be a distraction," Bowden has said over and over. He did write a book, but of course he was going to write a book. He's Bobby Bowden.

LHC Bill Snyder, as good as he is, is no Bobby Bowden.

But if you're the next coach at K-State, it sure feels like it.

This must be repeated.  Over and over and over again until people start to wake up.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 01:58:55 PM »
This thread will be funny to bump this time next year. One way or the other. Thinking we will be preparing for a BCS bowl but what the hell do I know.
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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 02:02:14 PM »
Rake, if OB got fired/retired/died, do you think we'd have a decent pool of candidates to pick from (not meaning names thrown around here, but coaches who decide they'll throw their hat in the ring) and that we'd get someone good?

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2010, 02:06:37 PM »
I don't think the name thing is a big deal.  At least not as big as Bill needing to STFU and go away.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2010, 02:09:21 PM »
Rake, if OB got fired/retired/died, do you think we'd have a decent pool of candidates to pick from (not meaning names thrown around here, but coaches who decide they'll throw their hat in the ring) and that we'd get someone good?

All I know is that if I'm a young coach trying to make a name for myself, I'm not doing it at Kansas State.

Did Gordon Ramsay make his name cooking in Emeril Lagasse's kitchen? (doesn't really apply, but have been waiting a few years to use that.)

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2010, 02:12:44 PM »
This thread will be funny to bump this time next year. One way or the other. Thinking we will be preparing for a BCS bowl but what the hell do I know.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2010, 02:13:22 PM »
I don't have an issue with the name thing in general, but it shouldnt have been done instantly.

Other than more money/a promotion/a BCS school, I'm really not sure why our job would be attractive to anyone.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2010, 02:13:51 PM »
This thread will be funny to bump this time next year. One way or the other. Thinking we will be preparing for a BCS bowl but what the hell do I know.

lolz if you think we won't have moved on to a new bbs by then

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2010, 02:15:30 PM »
Seems like the Osborne-Pelini co-existence has been beneficial to Bo as a 1st time HC, which gives me hope for a BV type hire. Just a matter of Bill not being an effing mule when Currie suggests or wants to make a move. Hope there can be some mutual agreement there.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2010, 02:15:45 PM »
Rake, if OB got fired/retired/died, do you think we'd have a decent pool of candidates to pick from (not meaning names thrown around here, but coaches who decide they'll throw their hat in the ring) and that we'd get someone good?

All I know is that if I'm a young coach trying to make a name for myself, I'm not doing it at Kansas State.

What if you just want to be a head coach at a BCS school?

I agree with m-cat that the name thing isn't a big deal.  The stadium/highway SHOULD be in memory of the past, not like me managing "Trim's chokeout dojo".

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2010, 02:16:48 PM »
One of the big problems I have with Snyder is that he allowed his name to be put on the stadium. It seemed like a cool idea at the time, but in retrospect, I think it hurt the (possible) attractiveness of the K-State job. While most reasonable fans want a new coach, it's going to be extremely difficult to get an up-and-comer who is interested in sticking around for the long term.

Now, it was going to be difficult anyway because it's MHK. I get that. But K-State no longer offers a coach the opportunity to come in and make a name for himself the way Snyder did in 1989. Not when you must drive down LHC Bill Snyder HIGHWAY to get into Manhattan, and not when you have to coach every day at LHC Bill Snyder FAMILY STADIUM.

Who wants to put up with that?

Say what you want about Ron Prince, but Snyder didn't do him any favors. He still made his home in Manhattan and even in retirement was extremely visible on campus and in the community. Aside from a letter to the Collegian, Snyder never once offered support for Prince. And when the idiots called for Snyder to return, you got the impression that he couldn't get enough of the attention, that he wanted to come back and prove to everybody he could do it again. Snyder has an ego, and he does a terrible job of trying to hide it.

By comparison, Bobby Bowden left (was forced out) at Florida State, and has come to accept it, even though he isn't happy about the way things went down. He doesn't live in Tallahassee and has only been to one FSU home game all season, and that's because he was invited as a special guest. "I don't want to be a distraction," Bowden has said over and over. He did write a book, but of course he was going to write a book. He's Bobby Bowden.

LHC Bill Snyder, as good as he is, is no Bobby Bowden.

But if you're the next coach at K-State, it sure feels like it.


We're going to start from ground zero again due to Snyder's selfishness and inability to walk away from the game properly.

Nobody wants to be the coach that follows THE coach.  (You hear this all the time).  And nobody wants to be the coach that follows the coach with his effing name on the stadium.

That's why the Patterson hire following Prince was so important - the golden opportunity that we pissed away.

All that being said, I thought we could potentially bypass this with Snyder building a staff with a viable head coach in waiting.  What's become evident is either he is incapable or simply unwilling to do so.  Which means, a second retirement without any succession plan whatsoever, exactly the same as when he mumped us the last time with his departure and the administration hired

Snyder is so perplexing.  As much as he supposedly loves this football program, he is amazingly careless about the long term legacy he chooses to leave.  It's very bizarre.

Texas Christian University coach Gary Patterson has been hired as Kansas State's 34th football coach, multiple sources have confirmed to GoPowercat.com.  Patterson replaces Ron Prince, who was fired Wednesday. - Tim Fitzgerald   Nov, 7, 2008

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2010, 02:18:23 PM »
Other than more money/a promotion/a BCS school, I'm really not sure why our job would be attractive to anyone.

It isn't.  But money+promotion+BCS school is enough to make it attractive to a lot of promising young coaches.  We're definitely at the low end of the BCS totem pole, but I don't think playing at KSU Stadium instead of BSFS would change that.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2010, 02:20:45 PM »
Other than more money/a promotion/a BCS school, I'm really not sure why our job would be attractive to anyone.

It isn't.  But money+promotion+BCS school is enough to make it attractive to a lot of promising young coaches.  We're definitely at the low end of the BCS totem pole, but I don't think playing at KSU Stadium instead of BSFS would change that.

Agreed. Irresponsible posting by me.

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Re: Go get him, Currie!
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2010, 02:33:51 PM »
Rake, if OB got fired/retired/died, do you think we'd have a decent pool of candidates to pick from (not meaning names thrown around here, but coaches who decide they'll throw their hat in the ring) and that we'd get someone good?

All I know is that if I'm a young coach trying to make a name for myself, I'm not doing it at Kansas State.

What if you just want to be a head coach at a BCS school?

I agree with m-cat that the name thing isn't a big deal.  The stadium/highway SHOULD be in memory of the past, not like me managing "Trim's chokeout dojo".

Every school has a legendary former coach who the new guy has to compete with.  Well, except for KSU in 1989.