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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2013, 07:31:28 AM »
Because Hubert had so many holes to run through, right? He was smothered on most of those carries.

good running backs FIND holes
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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #51 on: August 31, 2013, 07:43:23 AM »
Yeah, to an extent. Hubert could have been better, but I don't buy that a non-superhuman running back put into Hubert's shoes on most of those carries manages to look good.

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2013, 07:51:54 AM »
Who hates our OL more today? Jake Losers or John Losert? Can you imagine all the dirty looks they're giving Cornelius Loses?

Also, I don't know the name of anyone on our defense.
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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2013, 08:04:18 AM »
Who hates our OL more today? Jake Losers or John Losert? Can you imagine all the dirty looks they're giving Cornelius Loses?

Also, I don't know the name of anyone on our defense.

I think we have a guy named Blake Slaughter.

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2013, 09:03:46 AM »
By cooler heads and knowledgeable fans, not carnes and the like.
I didn't see enough to think he should play in front of an electric player like Sams. Seems to hold the ball too long and didn't throw well on the run. That's my facile judgment, but would like to hear from those who know the game better than me.
That was my assessment as well.  He seems to be more a pure pocket passer.  I don't want to put the blame on anyone, but the offensive play calling was not suited for Waters.  The delayed quarterback sneak that Klein was noted for needs to be scrapped if Waters is going to remain QB.  He has absolutely no running ability and things are only going to get faster when league play starts.

I was a bit surprised that Sams did not get more play after the touchdown.  Is he in the dog house with the coaches?  Were they miffed at his celebration after the touchdown?  Back to Waters.... If Coach Snyder is going to commit to him being QB, he has to develop a scheme to suit Waters' skills.  Otherwise, even 6th place in the Big XII standings may look good by November.   

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2013, 09:05:55 AM »
Who hates our OL more today? Jake Losers or John Losert? Can you imagine all the dirty looks they're giving Cornelius Loses?

Also, I don't know the name of anyone on our defense.
Cornelius was carp last night he wiffed  on multiple blocks and didn't open a single hole.  He should be panicking guys left and right.

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2013, 09:11:01 AM »
By cooler heads and knowledgeable fans, not carnes and the like.
I didn't see enough to think he should play in front of an electric player like Sams. Seems to hold the ball too long and didn't throw well on the run. That's my facile judgment, but would like to hear from those who know the game better than me.
That was my assessment as well.  He seems to be more a pure pocket passer.  I don't want to put the blame on anyone, but the offensive play calling was not suited for Waters.  The delayed quarterback sneak that Klein was noted for needs to be scrapped if Waters is going to remain QB.  He has absolutely no running ability and things are only going to get faster when league play starts.

I was a bit surprised that Sams did not get more play after the touchdown.  Is he in the dog house with the coaches?  Were they miffed at his celebration after the touchdown?  Back to Waters.... If Coach Snyder is going to commit to him being QB, he has to develop a scheme to suit Waters' skills.  Otherwise, even 6th place in the Big XII standings may look good by November.

Based on this line from Snyder "Daniel (Sams), that was poor coaching on our part. We put him in one play and he is in the end zone. That falls back on us not utilizing him more" I don't think we will be needing to scheme around Waters, that experiment has gone  :flush:

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2013, 09:19:21 AM »
Loser who lost to north loser state
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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2013, 09:28:49 AM »
10 carries for 23 yards. and he is 1st team big 12 ahead of James Sims? lmao
I blame this on bad play calling. Even on 3rd and short we tried to run it outside or some time of delay

We wouldn't just run it right at them, I know they were blitzing constantly but still

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Re: Assessment of Waters
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2013, 09:30:23 AM »
A) the "jake waters is a surprisingly good runner" stuff from the off season was clearly bullshit.

B) agreed that having a bad running QB makes hubes sucky.

C) thought he threw the ball pretty well. dink and dunk type of QB. would be good in a "system".

D) our defense is praying to the god of clock management that we put sams in there and start veer'ing the crap out of teams.