unbelievable

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

UNC Charlotte compared to K-State and WVU.

really sys? 

One's a job promotion, the other a lateral move

so huggins gets more credit because he offered hill an easy choice, martin gets less because he had to beat out a competitive offer.  now that you explain it, that makes sense, thanks fsd.

you're just disagreeing to disagree. 

calling what k-state paid Hill* a "competitive offer" is ridiculous.  Huggs couldn't have brought Hill to WVU if he wanted to at that money.

based on the "competitive offer" idiocy: if anyone gets credit for keeping hill at k-state it's Wefald and Krause for devising the Head Coach/Associate Head Coach financial scheme


*widely believed to be the highest paid assistant in college basketball, almost unanimously regarded as the most overpaid

Why would Krause get credit for anything, he was nearly a year and a half from becoming the AD when Frank became the head coach.  Jesus I already told you once in this topic that Weiser was the AD.  Wave the flag here FSD you're in way over your head, you don't even know basic details.

thanks for catching that irrelevant detail

for a guy always bitching about "straw men" . . . yeesh

[sys]

One's a job promotion, the other a lateral move

so huggins gets more credit because he offered hill an easy choice, martin gets less because he had to beat out a competitive offer.  now that you explain it, that makes sense, thanks fsd.

you're just disagreeing to disagree. 

calling what k-state paid Hill* a "competitive offer" is ridiculous.

you're the one who called it a lateral move.  you're disagreeing with yourself.

[CHONGS]

ok no more quotes guys

jfc

[michigancat]

Why does Frank get credit for Pullen but not Beasley?

Also, the original post I questioned said that Frank's system wasn't good for elite recruits. Regardless of who recruited them, Beasley and Walker thrived under Martin's system.

You may now continue your semantics debate.

[sys]

Why does Frank get credit for Pullen but not Beasley?

he should get full for samuels, 3/4 credit for beasley.  1/2 for pullen and sutton, none for walker.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Why does Frank get credit for Pullen but not Beasley?

Because he actually recruited him 

[michigancat]

Why does Frank get credit for Pullen but not Beasley?

Because he actually recruited him 

Wrong. That was Dalonte and Huggs.

[Kat Kid]

This thread continues to deliver.

[ednksu]

Why does Frank get credit for Pullen but not Beasley?

he should get full for samuels, 3/4 credit for beasley.  1/2 for pullen and sutton, none for walker.

why would Frank only get 1/2 for Pullen, seems like his situation would be more analogous to Sams than Beasley (just because you give him more credit)?  Just trying to see your thought process.  Pullen is clearly the only player that Frank has developed start to finish.  I'm not sure how much coaching or development he did for Mike. 

Frankly I don't see how you give credit to Martin on an individual level of recruitment.  Now you can give him credit because he kept the staff together, so its bi proxy rather than direct relationship.  Now that is a completely legitimate method of recruiting in the modern college game. 

Does anyone have any "rumblings" numbers on what WVU was offering?  Seems like K-State overpaid like none other to keep him.  If were talking @/<300k at WVU that in no way can be considered a lateral move.

[catzacker]

OU/Tech....10-10 tie at the 11 minute mark.

Thanks, Lon.  

[Dugout DickStone]

OU/Tech....10-10 tie at the 11 minute mark.

Thanks, Lon.  

They are garbage.  Can't shoot at all.

[Cire]

the mid range jumpers are not falling

[sys]

why would Frank only get 1/2 for Pullen, seems like his situation would be more analogous to Sams than Beasley (just because you give him more credit)?  Just trying to see your thought process.  Pullen is clearly the only player that Frank has developed start to finish.  I'm not sure how much coaching or development he did for Mike. 

i was just talking about credit for recruiting them, nothing else.

gets more credit for beasley because he hired a coach to get/retain him.  half credit for the others because he was part of the staff that originally recruited them and was able to retain them.

[kso_FAN]

OU/Tech....10-10 tie at the 11 minute mark.

Thanks, Lon.   

OU shot 38% tonight.