Author Topic: Hypothetical: How long to create a society similar to ours only from scratch?  (Read 7413 times)

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Offline kso_FAN

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The problem is that modern people would be horrible at the survival type stuff that would be most urgent. It would be like "Hey, can we eat these berries?" And the other guy would be like "I dunno man I usually eat Chipotle" and probably 80k would die within 5 years. Then, the 20k remaining would take a long ass time to even like, domesticate a horse and grow an ear of corn.

We're talking 2500 years MINIMUM.

Yes, lots of people would die fairly quickly. But survival of the fittest, etc.

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i would be more interested in this experiment if the new society wasn't geared towards recreating ours and instead was allowed to make their own.  i have no further input for this thread.

I could have probably phrased the question better. I'm more interested in the level of technology.

oh.  huge dichotomy shift here. 

what if i were to tell you that i believe it would be easily possible to dwarf our level of technology in less amount of time?  think of it this way, we are where we are because we royally mumped up a bunch of times.  like, we're the dumbasses we like to make fun of for being dumbasses.

Yeah, but we're using dumbasses from our current society to run this experiment, so I wouldn't expect results that are a whole lot better.

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If we are talking about only 100,000 people to start out with we are talking at LEAST a few thousand years. You have to figure the population has to get to a certain point before technology even becomes a want, let alone a need. Also take into account how disease and lack of medical care will impact the growth of that population. 

 Deep down all the human male wants to do is eat and screw.  Until there is competition for either of those needs advancement will remain stagnant.   Population will have to increase to the point that some guy has to go above and beyond to get laid and get a steak.  That's our true starting point for the beginning of technology.   Once the "need" for advancement is met there will need to be a substantial population to convert the natural resources and actually build. It will take a long long time to populate the world to have enough people needing technological advancement to force them to work to gather these resources... In other words... Slavery.  The human race hits a glass ceiling at some point until they begin forced labor and add violence to the mix. 

It's a far more complex and complicated matter than wanting an iPhone.
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Also we're going to have to find a way to pump a crap ton of CO2 into the atmosphere or it's going to freeze really rough ridin' fast.

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Also we're going to have to find a way to pump a crap ton of CO2 into the atmosphere or it's going to freeze really rough ridin' fast.

Burn forests.

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I think technology could go in different directions, too. Like, imagine if we started harnessing solar or wind power before coal?

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I think technology could go in different directions, too. Like, imagine if we started harnessing solar or wind power before coal?

I think it would depend greatly on where the people of this new world start out and how the resources are distributed. Mankind has used windmills since the first century AD, btw.

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There was already a book written about this, very good IMO.


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Also, its not like all 100k would work together as a team. They'd break up into small groups and fight.

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Lots of them would sex.

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I would invent foxxy boxxing

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Also, its not like all 100k would work together as a team. They'd break up into small groups and fight.

This is an interesting aspect of it. It's an experiment that I wish I could watch unfold over time. How long does the massive group cooperate? When do small groups break off? How far do they migrate? All of it would be pretty cool to watch unfold.

If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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If someone doesn't figure out a way to make TV shows rather quickly, then please don't include me in the 100k. TIA.

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If someone doesn't figure out a way to make TV shows rather quickly, then please don't include me in the 100k. TIA.
Along a similar line, if gE doesn't exist in the first month, then  :shooturmouth:


(I'm pretty sure some redneck will have crafted a gun out of bamboo shoots within the first week, so yes, the above would be possible.)

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What if the human race began as this kind of an experiment by aliens?

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Personally I like to research Writing before Masonry or Iron Working because then I can build the Great Library and not have to build a library in my first city and my science production goes through the roof until Montezuma comes and pillages my crap with a bunch of Jaguar warriors and

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Well you guys are talking about what they have to find. I am talking about what they have to create.
In your scenario, food, shelter would be 1 and 2. In my scenario, what comes after staplers? Probably pesticides. Tobias is ahead of himself with GMO's. That is somewhere around 8.
weapons, weapons will be in the top 3 maybe 2

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Personally I like to research Writing before Masonry or Iron Working because then I can build the Great Library and not have to build a library in my first city and my science production goes through the roof until Montezuma comes and pillages my crap with a bunch of Jaguar warriors and

is that age of empires talk because, if so, i love you.
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Personally I like to research Writing before Masonry or Iron Working because then I can build the Great Library and not have to build a library in my first city and my science production goes through the roof until Montezuma comes and pillages my crap with a bunch of Jaguar warriors and

is that age of empires talk because, if so, i love you.

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I was thinking about this today...clothing would be tricky. hmmmm

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Also, its not like all 100k would work together as a team. They'd break up into small groups and fight.

This is an interesting aspect of it. It's an experiment that I wish I could watch unfold over time. How long does the massive group cooperate? When do small groups break off? How far do they migrate? All of it would be pretty cool to watch unfold.

The massive group sticks together for less than 1 week. Then they realize its martial law, and its a fight oven women and resources.