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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 04:49:10 PM »

Sams is not a QB or at least not a future pro or even all conference potential.  He is an athelete who can make plays. 


In many respects, you just described Klein.  Dude was a great, athletic play maker.  But, nobody who knows anything about football ever thought Klein had a future as a professional QB. 


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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 05:05:43 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
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Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 05:08:10 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
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Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.
I think you just made the best argument possible why Sams should be the guy going forward and this team should commit to a dual threat system.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2013, 05:13:08 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
 :buh-bye:

Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.
I think you just made the best argument possible why Sams should be the guy going forward and this team should commit to a dual threat system.

It's only dual threat if the passing game is actually a threat.

Bill could get off his high horse and let true freshman play. Jarvis Leverett is probably the top all purpose athlete on our team. Tears up the scout squad like Arthur Brown did yet he has to 'earn his spot' aka sit in the 'system' behind Hubert and Rose/Robinson.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2013, 05:23:09 PM »
I would absolutely kill to see Sams playing CB or safety.
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2013, 05:31:32 PM »
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2013, 06:47:37 PM »
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »
If we are going to get Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) with SAMs then put him at linebacker. 
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2013, 07:16:39 PM »
put him at center and do the fumblerooski or whatever. scheme the eff outta er'body.
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2013, 07:18:50 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
 :buh-bye:

Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.
who the eff is comparing sexton and jordy? do you also hang out with strictly racists?
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2013, 10:18:02 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
 :buh-bye:

Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.

When is the last time LHC Bill Snyder had a better group of receivers? Just how many excuses are you going to make for this guy? He's just not getting it done, period.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2013, 10:28:24 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
 :buh-bye:

Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.

When is the last time LHC Bill Snyder had a better group of receivers? Just how many excuses are you going to make for this guy? He's just not getting it done, period.

Is this a joke? How about last year.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2013, 10:38:48 PM »
waters would be really good BUT

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2013, 10:41:50 PM »
We aren't running the Klein offense with Waters. He has a lot of carries because he scrambles on a lot of passing plays. The QB run should work in short yardage situations. Waters is the only QB to ever play for LHC Bill Snyder who has been this bad at picking up easy first downs. Jake would be bad in any offense. He would get absolutely raped trying to run Mike Leach's offense.

Yeah he would absolutely suck in a hurry up spread. He probably couldn't even win a juco game running an offense like that.
 :buh-bye:

Waters would look great if we were playing juco defenses. You can't be effective in a hurry up spread throwing 90+% of your passes to one guy against D1 defenses, though. That defeats the whole purpose of spreading the field. Waters is just awful. He's one of the 5 worst starting QBs Bill has had at KSU. At this point, if Bill just refuses to let Sams run the offense, I'd like to see the 3rd stringer get a chance.

Look at our receiving corps. TT and TLBL are about it. Torrell Miller is single handedly responsible for 3 of Water's interceptions, batting 2 of them straight up in the air. Something they coach you not to do in 7th grade pee wee football. People like to draw a connection between Jordy Nelson and Curry Sexton that just isn't there. Jordy Nelson would run circles around him. Water's doesn't have anyone reliable to throw to outside of TLBL and TT.

All you do is repeat "water's is awful" followed by a bunch of elementary bs and it's just that. A load of BS.
who the eff is comparing sexton and jordy? do you also hang out with strictly racists?

Two of his three points are total and complete lies. Toe as shitty as he's been is not responsible for 3 of the damn interceptions and he has not heard anyone draw parallels from Jordy to Sexton, jesus rough ridin' christ this dude thinks we're morons. Eastcat is a proven terrible poster and liar.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2013, 10:21:32 AM »
Torrel was also responsible for the butt fumble.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2013, 10:45:10 AM »
Torrel was also responsible for the butt fumble.

Torrel was responsible for Roberts getting burned, too.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2013, 10:57:50 AM »


#ThanksTorrel

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2013, 10:59:25 AM »
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Let Sams throw, Torell!  :shakesfist:

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2013, 11:03:33 AM »


#ThanksTorrel

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2013, 11:18:59 AM »
I would absolutely kill to see Sams playing CB or safety.

I would absolutely kill our entire coaching staff if I saw Sams playing CB or safety.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2013, 11:20:06 AM »
I would absolutely kill to see Sams playing CB or safety.

I would absolutely kill Torrel if I saw Sams playing CB or safety.

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2013, 11:52:37 AM »
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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2013, 08:20:34 PM »
Thank God we now know why our coaching staff is so shitty...TORREL

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2013, 08:51:33 PM »
I would absolutely kill to see Sams playing CB or safety.

I would absolutely kill our entire coaching staff if I saw Sams playing CB or safety.

Yeah.  The day sams switches positions is the day I stop caring about cats football. 

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Re: Biggest Comparison between Harper & sams
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2013, 08:51:50 PM »


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