I don't get all of this "Get rid of the NCAA" stuff

[Pete]

I guess not all side jobs are created equally.  A guy recently wasn't allowed to stay on scholarship if he was a musician earning money for performances.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Nobody is stopping somebody from creating a semi-pro league that takes athletes straight out of high school and competing with the NCAA. Nobody does that because they would not be able to afford to pay them enough to make their offer a better deal than the full ride scholarship they are getting from universities.

What if you got a degree that only qualified you work for only one mega corporation; but if you work for them and are really good, you may get selected for an elite corporation that would pay many hundred times of what you are getting at the company that brought you in as a low payed intern.  IS THAT FAIR?  Because that's what high school althelics face with the pre-NFL tryout schools(NCAA).

Yes, it's perfectly fair.

[Bloodfart]

I guess not all side jobs are created equally.  A guy recently wasn't allowed to stay on scholarship if he was a musician earning money for performances.

NPR fan outed.

[HerrSonntag]

I guess not all side jobs are created equally.  A guy recently wasn't allowed to stay on scholarship if he was a musician earning money for performances.

NPR fan outed.

Double outed

[Bloodfart]

I guess not all side jobs are created equally.  A guy recently wasn't allowed to stay on scholarship if he was a musician earning money for performances.

NPR fan outed.

Double outed

yep

[wetwillie]

Nobody is stopping somebody from creating a semi-pro league that takes athletes straight out of high school and competing with the NCAA. Nobody does that because they would not be able to afford to pay them enough to make their offer a better deal than the full ride scholarship they are getting from universities.

Would this semi pro league enjoy tax exempt status?

[star seed 7]

doesn't the side job rule only let you make like 2k or 4k or something a year.  it was some ridiculously low amount.

[Katpappy]

doesn't the side job rule only let you make like 2k or 4k or something a year.  it was some ridiculously low amount.

If it's such a good thing for athletic students, then the non-taxed sports profits of NCAA schools should pay the coaches only a limited pay based on what the other professors make.  Also, they are to not make any side money.  I mean, crap, the NCAA makes it so the athletic students are not allowed to make any money off the games that it's OK for AD to make all they can get from those same games that the kids put their health in pearl for.  We all know the answer to that. 

[EMAWmeister]

I don't necessarily agree that they should share the tv revenues and profits, because there is really no way to establish the additional revenue that one player brings in vs the other. I do however, think it's bullshit that Varney's can hang "7" and "22" jerseys in the window all day long, sell a shitload of them, and then act like Collin Klein and Rodney McGruder aren't the reason that they are buying those jerseys. Granted, there are some people who would buy a k-state bball and football jersey regardless, but there is a reason we're not selling Shawn Meyer and Stanton Weber jerseys.

[Stevesie60]

doesn't the side job rule only let you make like 2k or 4k or something a year.  it was some ridiculously low amount.

Makes sense. A bunch of the football players worked security at some bars last FPD.

[Shacks]

A good solution would be offering student-athletes a big payday when they graduate.  That would encourage them to stay in school and work hard for a degree and they would get a cut of all the revenue they generate.  Title IX would probably get in the way of this ("Athletes on the women's rowing team deserve just as much as the All American QB!") but if athletes were promised, say, a check for 50K upon graduation that would be a good middle ground.  Technically they would no longer be student-athletes since they have graduated (unless they redshirted, finished their undergrad and are in grad school during their fifth year on the team) and it promotes education.

There would have to be limits, though.  Otherwise deep-pocket programs like Texas and Alabama would gain an even bigger recruiting advantage.  If the money came directly from the NCAA and each player in each conference received the same amount, that would be a good solution.  Scale the payouts to the revenue each sport brings in.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Nobody is stopping somebody from creating a semi-pro league that takes athletes straight out of high school and competing with the NCAA. Nobody does that because they would not be able to afford to pay them enough to make their offer a better deal than the full ride scholarship they are getting from universities.

Would this semi pro league enjoy tax exempt status?

It depends on what the organization chooses to do with its profits.

[bulzeye31]

A good solution would be offering student-athletes a big payday when they graduate.  That would encourage them to stay in school and work hard for a degree and they would get a cut of all the revenue they generate.  Title IX would probably get in the way of this ("Athletes on the women's rowing team deserve just as much as the All American QB!") but if athletes were promised, say, a check for 50K upon graduation that would be a good middle ground.  Technically they would no longer be student-athletes since they have graduated (unless they redshirted, finished their undergrad and are in grad school during their fifth year on the team) and it promotes education.

There would have to be limits, though.  Otherwise deep-pocket programs like Texas and Alabama would gain an even bigger recruiting advantage.  If the money came directly from the NCAA and each player in each conference received the same amount, that would be a good solution.  Scale the payouts to the revenue each sport brings in.

THIS

Not to mention its kind of like pot - if you just legalize players getting paid then its better for everybody

[ben ji]

A good solution would be offering student-athletes a big payday when they graduate.  That would encourage them to stay in school and work hard for a degree and they would get a cut of all the revenue they generate.  Title IX would probably get in the way of this ("Athletes on the women's rowing team deserve just as much as the All American QB!") but if athletes were promised, say, a check for 50K upon graduation that would be a good middle ground.  Technically they would no longer be student-athletes since they have graduated (unless they redshirted, finished their undergrad and are in grad school during their fifth year on the team) and it promotes education.

There would have to be limits, though.  Otherwise deep-pocket programs like Texas and Alabama would gain an even bigger recruiting advantage.  If the money came directly from the NCAA and each player in each conference received the same amount, that would be a good solution.  Scale the payouts to the revenue each sport brings in.

THIS

Not to mention its kind of like pot - if you just legalize players getting paid then its better for everybody

Pot is an illegal and dangerous drug. If you think it needs to be legalized you need to have your HEAD SCOPED

[bulzeye31]

A good solution would be offering student-athletes a big payday when they graduate.  That would encourage them to stay in school and work hard for a degree and they would get a cut of all the revenue they generate.  Title IX would probably get in the way of this ("Athletes on the women's rowing team deserve just as much as the All American QB!") but if athletes were promised, say, a check for 50K upon graduation that would be a good middle ground.  Technically they would no longer be student-athletes since they have graduated (unless they redshirted, finished their undergrad and are in grad school during their fifth year on the team) and it promotes education.

There would have to be limits, though.  Otherwise deep-pocket programs like Texas and Alabama would gain an even bigger recruiting advantage.  If the money came directly from the NCAA and each player in each conference received the same amount, that would be a good solution.  Scale the payouts to the revenue each sport brings in.

THIS

Not to mention its kind of like pot - if you just legalize players getting paid then its better for everybody

Pot is an illegal and dangerous drug. If you think it needs to be legalized you need to have your HEAD SCOPED

Not illegal if you make it legal... come on man.

[BRULL]

I guess not all side jobs are created equally.  A guy recently wasn't allowed to stay on scholarship if he was a musician earning money for performances.

What does this mean for Judah Jones?

["storm"nut]

Think of the NcAA like the UN. The only ones that want out are the Big name football schools (Texas, Ohio State, USC, the entire SEC. ETC) They are the Russia, China, US and UK of the NcAA. There are many more non football superpowers mucking up the works and trying to make things "fair" for the third world football schools.


PS, K-State is the Iran of college football (just wait till we get nukes  )

[MadCat]

Think of the NcAA like the UN. The only ones that want out are the Big name football schools (Texas, Ohio State, USC, the entire SEC. ETC) They are the Russia, China, US and UK of the NcAA. There are many more non football superpowers mucking up the works and trying to make things "fair" for the third world football schools.


PS, K-State is the Iran of college football (just wait till we get nukes  )

in the meantime, suffer the wrath of our elite army of hackers/trollers.

[kim carnes]

the players are getting scammed.  its true.  tons of people are making money, just not them.

[Katpappy]

the players are getting scammed.  its true.  tons of people are making money, just not them.

Goddamm, Kimmy gets it!!! 

[Rage Against the McKee]

the players are getting scammed.  its true.  tons of people are making money, just not them.