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Offline Dr Rick Daris

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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 10:31:57 AM »
Completely and totally different.  Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win.  Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's.  We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise.  This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.

Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.

there is some truth to what he is saying though. kstate and their fans care more about basketball when the football team is bad and less about it when the football team is good. if the football team was going to bcs bowls instead of getting blown out by ku, huggins never would have ended up at kstate. but we were in a bad stretch of football, so he did. not sure how anyone could disagree with this. the premise is just that the fans and the admin as a whole care less and won't be as bother by 8-10 conf seasons if fball is kicking ass.

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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 06:46:01 PM »
Completely and totally different.  Wooly got a long rope because we had forgot how to win.  Asbury didn't get a long leash BTW, his situation was totally different than Wooly's.  We are coming off the best 5 year stretch in the last 60 years, he won't be given the same rope that Wooly did, not even close, its dumb to think otherwise.  This talking point is stupid and needs to die, you aren't the first to say it nor will be the last.

Yes, and soon. Its a completely reactionary talking point.

there is some truth to what he is saying though. kstate and their fans care more about basketball when the football team is bad and less about it when the football team is good. if the football team was going to bcs bowls instead of getting blown out by ku, huggins never would have ended up at kstate. but we were in a bad stretch of football, so he did. not sure how anyone could disagree with this. the premise is just that the fans and the admin as a whole care less and won't be as bother by 8-10 conf seasons if fball is kicking ass.

Thats absurd, conference play in basketball is two months after the regular season ends in football, 3.5 for March Madness.  There isn't one single program in the country that just neglects basketball in lieu of football.  Hell even Nebraska,  seemingly the model for basketball neglect built a new basketball arena.  You would have a point if the seasons ran concurrently.  No athletic department is going to sleep on a 8 month sports season because the first four went well.  I must have misunderstood your post because what I think I read was crazy.

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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 08:11:13 PM »
He didn't say that the athletic dept was going to give up on bball. He is saying that tha AD is less likely to do anything rash when football is good (hire Huggins/fire oscar). They, and we as fans, are more likely to accept the status quo as acceptable. Rick Daris is correct on this issue.

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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2012, 08:55:12 PM »
I have a lot of tucks that follow me on twitter. Fwiw, most of them are starting to follow my message with RT's and bickering with one another when I start a weber twitter meltdown. That's good, right?  :dunno:
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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 09:00:23 PM »
I have a lot of tucks that follow me. Fwiw, most of them are starting to follow my message with RT's and bickering with one another when I start a weber twitter meltdown. That's good, right?  :dunno:

I don't think so.  I have never had as much twitter follower turnover as I have this week with all the extra anti-oscar twitter time I have been able to spend. 


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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2012, 12:07:50 AM »
I don’t think people realize how quickly expectations can/will plummet.  There’s already a “oscar didn’t get left with very good ‘basketball’ players” sentiment which will resonate with most of our fan base.
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Re: Are we winning the fight?
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2012, 12:22:21 AM »
He didn't say that the athletic dept was going to give up on bball. He is saying that tha AD is less likely to do anything rash when football is good (hire Huggins/fire oscar). They, and we as fans, are more likely to accept the status quo as acceptable. Rick Daris is correct on this issue.

you have one word in your post that acts like a hedge and could be used to change the conversation.  RD didn't use that word.