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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2012, 09:10:59 PM »
Romney, Santorum, Obama, and Gingrich are all the same. They all want big government to run our lives. Massive spending. No cuts. Period. there is NO DIFFERENCE!

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2012, 09:58:41 PM »
First of all, let's examine the accusation that "They all want big government to run our lives".

That's bullshit. Not even Obama or the Democratic Party has the opinion that we need our lives run by the Government. To suggest such is completely ridiculous.

Now to consider them the same and there is "NO DIFFERENCE" would be just as stupid. All we have to do is look at one issue. Health Insurance. Obama wants it nationalized, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich do not. This is not rocket science, fucknuts.
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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2012, 10:45:08 PM »
First of all, let's examine the accusation that "They all want big government to run our lives".

That's bullshit. Not even Obama or the Democratic Party has the opinion that we need our lives run by the Government. To suggest such is completely ridiculous.

Now to consider them the same and there is "NO DIFFERENCE" would be just as stupid. All we have to do is look at one issue. Health Insurance. Obama wants it nationalized, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich do not. This is not rocket science, fucknuts.

Well, to be fair, nobody really knows how Romney feels about any issue. He just goes where the wind blows him.

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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2012, 11:37:02 PM »
That's actually a fantastic point..  I think this fact alone would cast doubt on the claim that everyone of them is the same. Even Romney isn't sure who or what Romney is, not to mention what he's for or against.
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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2012, 11:44:49 PM »
They all want to control our life and intimidate us(wont legalize drugs, welfare, Patriot act, NDAA, SOPA, etc)
They all want to bomb brown people.
They will all run a huge defecit one way or another (Obamacare, preemptive war, whatever)
They wont reform social security
They will all bow down to the Fed
And finally, they are bought and paid for by the same companies.

Except one of them, of course.

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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2012, 11:58:55 PM »
That still doesn't make them the same. Try again.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2012, 11:59:25 AM »
That still doesn't make them the same. Try again.

Well, that may not "make them all the same", but the end result will be pretty much the same no matter who wins.  I think that is more of the point they are trying to make. 

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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2012, 12:08:48 PM »
That still doesn't make them the same. Try again.

please explain how they're different.  Make sure to specify one is a black muslim, one is a white mormon & one is a white catholic, while the other one is a white old rich guy.

First of all, let's examine the accusation that "They all want big government to run our lives".

That's bullshit. Not even Obama or the Democratic Party has the opinion that we need our lives run by the Government. To suggest such is completely ridiculous.

Now to consider them the same and there is "NO DIFFERENCE" would be just as stupid. All we have to do is look at one issue. Health Insurance. Obama wants it nationalized, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich do not. This is not rocket science, fucknuts.

How is Obamacare not big government wanting to run peoples lives?  How is strict gun control not?  How is educational reform not?  Do you even think before you type?
« Last Edit: March 22, 2012, 12:11:24 PM by HeinBallz »
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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2012, 12:17:44 PM »
the KHAN- you are rough ridin' blind my friend. Seriously. JESUS CHRIST!

Like Heinzballz said, you are truly the product of social manipulation lol. You are so blind. And i dont care what arguement you try to make if you vote for Obama or romney you are voting for the same rough ridin' person.
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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2012, 02:22:26 PM »
the KHAN- you are rough ridin' blind my friend. Seriously. JESUS CHRIST!

Like Heinzballz said, you are truly the product of social manipulation lol. You are so blind. And i dont care what arguement you try to make if you vote for Obama or romney you are voting for the same rough ridin' person.

There are a few very important issues that are being avoided here. Supreme court nominations, cap & trade type legislation/EPA, taxes, entitlements, etc. You will find EXTREME differences that have the possibility of sending us down the road and over the cliff behind Europe. Any of the "republican" candidates can save us from this fate. They may be similar when it comes to politics, but not even close in ideology.

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« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2012, 05:53:50 PM »
That still doesn't make them the same. Try again.

Well, that may not "make them all the same", but the end result will be pretty much the same no matter who wins.  I think that is more of the point they are trying to make.
If that's the point they are trying to make, while at the same time defending Ron Paul, then they are fighting a losing battle. Do you guys honestly think Ron Paul in the white house is going to change much at all?  He will in essence be facing 2 halves of a legislature which will be 90 percent hostile to his message and a Supreme Court put in place by other Presidents who chose them on the basis that they had similar ideologies to them.  Ron Paul would never, and could never, inact 1/50th of what he wants to do.

That still doesn't make them the same. Try again.

please explain how they're different.  Make sure to specify one is a black muslim, one is a white mormon & one is a white catholic, while the other one is a white old rich guy.

First of all, let's examine the accusation that "They all want big government to run our lives".

That's bullshit. Not even Obama or the Democratic Party has the opinion that we need our lives run by the Government. To suggest such is completely ridiculous.

Now to consider them the same and there is "NO DIFFERENCE" would be just as stupid. All we have to do is look at one issue. Health Insurance. Obama wants it nationalized, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich do not. This is not rocket science, fucknuts.

How is Obamacare not big government wanting to run peoples lives?  How is strict gun control not?  How is educational reform not?  Do you even think before you type?

1. Explain how they are different?  This is where John "Teach me how to" Dougie comes in with the knockout blow. Their ideologies are incredibly different from each other.  What Libertarians have done is recited the same lie, that they are the same, for so long they've begun to believe it.  You might as well say that all those who fall in the category of "Classical Liberals" are the same. You could argue that Stalinists and Trotskyites were the same as well...if you were ignorant. There are some rather large differences between the two.  They take completely opposite stances on Unions, Minimum Wage, Abortion, Death Penalty, how to create jobs, the amount we should be taxed, what programs we should and shouldn't fun, Welfare, Social Security, Healthcare, illegal immigration.  The list is damn near endless.

2. How are those things not big Government wanting to run people's lives?  Now we're arguing about motive, not action.  I'm not going to tell you that Obamacare or Gun Control or anything else doesn't become intrusive, but the idea that there is some evil Government conspiracy to just run our lives is ludicrous. There are legitimate concerns behind all of these things. Obama didn't fight to get Obamacare passed to oppress you. I'd wager he thought it was a good thing for the country and was trying to improve the situations of a lot of poor Americans. The results are not at all what I like, but the motive was at least positive.

the KHAN- you are rough ridin' blind my friend. Seriously. JESUS CHRIST!

Like Heinzballz said, you are truly the product of social manipulation lol. You are so blind. And i dont care what arguement you try to make if you vote for Obama or romney you are voting for the same rough ridin' person.



Why do I know you're a complete buffoon?  I know it because you just told me you don't care what argument I try.  Damn the truth if it gets in the way of your crazy opinions. 
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« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2012, 09:36:21 PM »
1. Explain how they are different?  This is where John "Teach me how to" Dougie comes in with the knockout blow. Their ideologies are incredibly different from each other.  What Libertarians have done is recited the same lie, that they are the same, for so long they've begun to believe it.  You might as well say that all those who fall in the category of "Classical Liberals" are the same. You could argue that Stalinists and Trotskyites were the same as well...if you were ignorant. There are some rather large differences between the two.  They take completely opposite stances on Unions, Minimum Wage, Abortion, Death Penalty, how to create jobs, the amount we should be taxed, what programs we should and shouldn't fun, Welfare, Social Security, Healthcare, illegal immigration.  The list is damn near endless.

It's big government vs. small government.  ideologies be damned - it's all about who's in control.

2. How are those things not big Government wanting to run people's lives?  Now we're arguing about motive, not action.  I'm not going to tell you that Obamacare or Gun Control or anything else doesn't become intrusive, but the idea that there is some evil Government conspiracy to just run our lives is ludicrous. There are legitimate concerns behind all of these things. Obama didn't fight to get Obamacare passed to oppress you. I'd wager he thought it was a good thing for the country and was trying to improve the situations of a lot of poor Americans. The results are not at all what I like, but the motive was at least positive.

Give this a read when you get a chance.  See if you can find any relevance to today's political field.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/engineers_scientific_and_socia.html
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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2012, 09:38:08 PM »
Who here wouldn't  :jerk: to war porn?
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Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2012, 09:10:30 AM »
1. Explain how they are different?  This is where John "Teach me how to" Dougie comes in with the knockout blow. Their ideologies are incredibly different from each other.  What Libertarians have done is recited the same lie, that they are the same, for so long they've begun to believe it.  You might as well say that all those who fall in the category of "Classical Liberals" are the same. You could argue that Stalinists and Trotskyites were the same as well...if you were ignorant. There are some rather large differences between the two.  They take completely opposite stances on Unions, Minimum Wage, Abortion, Death Penalty, how to create jobs, the amount we should be taxed, what programs we should and shouldn't fun, Welfare, Social Security, Healthcare, illegal immigration.  The list is damn near endless.

It's big government vs. small government.  ideologies be damned - it's all about who's in control.

2. How are those things not big Government wanting to run people's lives?  Now we're arguing about motive, not action.  I'm not going to tell you that Obamacare or Gun Control or anything else doesn't become intrusive, but the idea that there is some evil Government conspiracy to just run our lives is ludicrous. There are legitimate concerns behind all of these things. Obama didn't fight to get Obamacare passed to oppress you. I'd wager he thought it was a good thing for the country and was trying to improve the situations of a lot of poor Americans. The results are not at all what I like, but the motive was at least positive.

Give this a read when you get a chance.  See if you can find any relevance to today's political field.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/engineers_scientific_and_socia.html
I know that may be too much for most people to read so I'll summarize my thoughts when I linked this article by agreeing with KHAN. I don't believe there was any malicious intent with Obama care or a lot of Dem's stance on gun control for that matter.  The point most people try to make against large government is that even though these policies may be good in principle for individual's, the very means in which they're applied makes them inherently wrong.  I particularly found interest in the above link I posted, with the points made about welfare and native Americans.  When people surrender their independence, they become slaves more or less.  Obama care I believe is founded on good intentions, but there's so much control by big brother involved that it becomes a means of enslavement. THAT is what I mean when I say all of these candidates are the same.  They all seem to think that they not only know what is good for me, but they're willing to legislate ways to impose these things on me.  If choosing a healthy lifestyle is not of my own conscious decision, it's not really a choice that I can 100%  be confident in.  What if BBS'n were to be found inherently evil and subsequently made illegal.  Would you not attempt to find an alternative that may be just as evil?


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Re: Santorum's war on porn....
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2012, 07:54:45 PM »
the khan. lol
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