The notion that he can't recruit is B.S. too, it stems him from not being able to lock down elite Chicago talent, well guess what, Illinois has NEVER locked down elite chicago talent!! EVER!! Bill Self was able to land some of the 2nd tier guys but there were plenty of rumors that it wasn't all above board.. Chicago is a pro sports town, nobody gives a crap about the Illini, kids there don't grow up dreaming to play for them and even if they did it's pretty common knowledge that the elite chicago AAU kids come with a price tag.. Those kids go to blue blood programs or whoever pays the most, always have and always will.. He signed over 9 top 100 guys while at Illinois and had a couple more coming in.. Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10.
Which leads to my next point, the knock on oscar is that he's a softy.. Pretty much the opposite of Frank Martin, he's very much a players coach which can be good but he's too much of a push over.. They are usually a talented but undisciplined team, especially lately as they haven't had a leader on the floor to keep the guys in line.. This year for example they were 15-3 atop the big 10 with wins over MSU,OSU,Gonzaga.. Had a lottery pick in Meyer Leonard and 2 great scorers in Paul,Richardson.. They finished with 17 wins, and were blown out by Nebraska.. If they have a good leader on the team ala Dee Brown they usually had good-great seasons, if they didn't have a true leader on the floor they would fold under the first sign of adversity and Brucie couldn't reel em back in..
You are completely full of crap. Where to begin? Weber's worst year ever was 2007-08 when he set the Illinois program record for most losses in a season.
"Illinois always had talent under Weber though, even this year, his worst year ever he had one of the more talented rosters in the big 10." How is that possibly a positive? He has one of the most talented teams in the conference (which is true btw) and he finished at the bottom? Doesn't that mean he's a shitty coach?
I have never once heard anyone refer to Weber as a players' coach. Ever. Because it's not true. He is socially awkward and insecure. He has displayed a repeated and absolute inability to motivate and inspire his players. Being an ineffectual pussy is not the same thing as being a players' coach.
You inadvertently hit the nail on the head though. If the team doesn't completely lead itself, you're screwed with Weber. He's just a hand-holder. The dog walker of the coaching profession. Give him talented kids that are self-motivated and he won't eff it up.
Also, please let the Weber being a great Xs and Os coach myth die. He runs the "motion" on offense, which generally means monotonously passing or dribbling the ball around the perimeter ultimately resulting in a forced/contested shot as the shot clock expires and next to no free throw attempts during the game. The best part is he NEVER changes or modifies it even when it's clear his players have no idea how to run it. Those are some next-level tactics right there. Straight man-to-man on defense for every opponent and in every situation. Maybe a little press at the end of a game when he's down big and desperate. Clear schematic advantage going forward for KSU.
You do realize that when you polish a turd, all you really accomplish is to expose more turd to the world?
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