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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Glass ceiling
« on: March 27, 2023, 11:31:51 AM »
Seem to recall the KU pg who couldn't make FTs was Aubry Nash. Also the fast K-State pg on the 80 team was either Fred or Glen Marshall, we had pgs with both names during that era. The rumor was he got fed up sitting on the bench and watch Stankovich play and left for his home in St. Louis the night Stank got injured. Hartman got in his car and chased down the bus to bring hiim back to Manhattan.

Not certain if it was Nash, but I recall the incident pretty well. However, I’m pretty sure the game you’re thinking of was in 74. KU was really good. FF team I think. Hartman was asked about the FT situation after the game and gave a terse “no comment”. That was that. It could have been a short TV interview from Ron Paradis on Channel 13. Time is tough on the memory.

Was able to attend the 1975 game in Lawrence and they absolutely beat the brakes off the cats that game. Early on, KU was hot, and after a missed KU jumper, Chuckie Williams went high to rebound it one handed. Took his eye off the ball and, with nobody around, it slipped out of bounds. Crowd went crazy. They responded by going on a 20-0 run ( or pretty close to that). Lost 91-53.

I’m going to have to dig out old newspapers now. I might still have those. My mom was sort of an archivist. Kennedy assassination, moon landing, Pearl Harbor, SB IV… Good ol’ mom….She kept ‘em all.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Glass ceiling
« on: March 26, 2023, 10:00:47 PM »
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We were Big 8 runner up to KU in 75. Lost a late year game in Lawrence for the title when Mike Evans got his nose broken. He played the tournament with an ancient padded mask Hartman got from Iba when playing football at Okie State. It might also have had It been the game Owens feigned an injury to his piss-poor shooting point guard so he didn't have to take critical FTs. We made the field because it was the first year they expanded the tournament but not yet to 64 (I think it was 48).
And don't forget the 80 2-point OT loss to eventual NC Louisville. IMO that was the best K-State of the post Winter era. Would have been seeded much higher if not for a rash of injuries that came after we'd already beat KU, MU and OU on the road. One of the injuries to Stankovich was actually a good thing because it force Hartman to play a point guard whose name I can't recall right now. 5-10 and faster the eff. Nealy would get a rebound and it was an instant fastbreak with him racing down the middle of the courty and Blackman and Tyrone Adams filling the lane.




Oh I completely forgot about Evans getting a broken nose. That mask! And he never skipped a beat. He and Chuckie were the “missile twins”.

I think that guard was Glenn Marshall. And that was a helluva 1980 team. 

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Glass ceiling
« on: March 26, 2023, 12:33:28 PM »
I too, have been around for all 8.

1971/1972- great team. Big 8 title winner. Beat Texas to make the EE. Lose 72-65 to Louisville in Ames.

1972/73 - Big 8 champs. Win S16 vs SW Louisiana. They had Bo Lamar. Averaged 29ppg. Guy was ****ing great. Cats eke out a 66-63 win. Then get Memphis (State). Gene Bartow was their coach. He would replace Wooden @ UCLA later in the decade. Larry Finch and (ABA/NBA) star Larry Kenon. Memphis played in the title game vs Walton and UCLA. They were unstoppable vs KSU. 92-72. 25-4. Season over. First time I was heartbroken.

1975 - Big 8 champs. Defeat Penn in the 32. Beat Boston College in the S16 to face off against Syracuse in the EE. Game tied and one of the greatest Big 8 players ever, Chuckie Williams comes down the court and drains a 28/29 footer to give the Cats the lead with 5 seconds to play. I mean it was one of those “NO, NO, NO DON’T SHOOT THAT …. **** YES I KNEW HE’D HIT THAT SHOT !!!! Syracuse inbounds, drives to the lane and hits a 12 footer that bounced 176 times on the rim then fell in to tie it. At. The. ****ing. Buzzer. Lose in OT. **** you, upstate NY.

I can't even discuss the Jerry Eaves, Louisville rim clanger.

1977- CATS vs Marquette. In OKC. Coached by Al McGuire. They had Butch Lee and Bo Ellis. They wore uniforms designed by Bo Ellis that were made to not be tucked in. Actually pretty cool stuff. Cats down three with 00:17 to play. Mike Evans puts up a jumper, misses, but Darrell Winston goes high above everybody and grabs it, lays it in and is fouled! ****yea!!!! Chance to tie with just seconds to play.

But wait - Rule 26(a) was instituted and the basket nullified but two FT’s awarded.

The original rule stated that a basket did not count if the ball was tipped in. A shot had to be ruled a "controlled shot" or a "controlled tip" to count. Usually, that meant that a rebounder had to have two-handed control of the ball. Winston controlled the ball, laid it in and was fouled. So, instead of a possible tie and OT. It was two FT’s. He made them both and Marquette held on for a 67-66 win. Marquette advanced to the FF and won it all. **** you Marquette.

Also, the rule was rescinded 12 days after the 77 title game. **** YOU NCAA.


1981- CATS beat USF then beat #1 seed Oregon State on the famous SI Cover photo of Rolando Blackmon high, high, HIGH in the air draining a baseline jumper with 2 seconds to play. (Jay Randolph on the call for NBC). Knock off Illinois in the S16 and get wasted by UNC in the EE. (Al Wood, Sam Perkins, James Worthy)
My dislike of UNC grew a lot that decade. Although I really enjoyed then when I got to watch Walter Davis. Damn, he was great.

88 - was in The Silverdome to witness it so nuff said. 

2010 - beat N Texas, BYU. S16 the incredible 2OT game vs Xavier in SLS. Then Butler. They were just was so damn tough. Had the lead late. But couldn’t hold it.

2018 - beat Kentucky in the S16 (I mean .. No biggie we whoop dat ass on the regular  :D ) And on to Loyola Chicago. And I swear this to you. Had my couch all ready. Texted friends. Life appears great. Was making a sandwich at tip-off. By the time I sat down it was 20-4 Loyola. Game was ****ing over in the first 6 minutes.

This year though, I really enjoyed the journey even though the result was rough. Let's do it again next season.


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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: S16 Game
« on: March 23, 2023, 06:30:20 PM »
Just a great half. Sparty is going to have to step out on the three’s. When they do, quis will carve them up.

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Ish’s 3 - was working in the hospital and everybody in the ER heard me. Ke’s was just icing with a fist pump.

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The inbounds play is called "Mahomes".

Tang knows the audience.

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Those were two absolute BOMBS (esp Ish's)

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It's right there for our guys. Gotta hit a few big ones down the stretch. And finish those close chances in the paint.

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quis going in with the trees is just amazing to watch.

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That is a rough bracket.

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No 4 in Albany

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That was an incredible win.

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This is a big possession.

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Got the lead!

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I'm okay with the officiating. When the Cats work the ball and have the shot, you gotta take it. I understand wanting to drive, but they can hit those open looks. Just step into one.

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good work outta sills to rescue the last few minutes of the half.

Yessir. That last 4 minutes was a drought.

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They were never kicked out of the Big East and were never candidates for the ACC. They were in the SEC until the mid 60s when they left on their own. After they left the SEC they were independent in football until Conference USA formed. They were there until the American formed and invited a bunch of football schools from CUSA. When they were independent in football their other sports were in the cool ass old metro confidence with schools like Cincinnati, Louisville, and Memphis.


Oh hell yes. The Metro 7 was a helluva conference. Cincinnati had so many good players and coach Gale Catlett. UL had Denny Crum coaching, Darrell Griffith, Scooter McRae, Jerry Eaves. Those were early Saturday afternoon games. And in 1980 they knocked KSU out of the tourney in the second round on a last second shot. Jerry (rough ridin') Eaves.

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TCU's Miles looks to have wrecked a knee/.

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Mold Aggie predictably falling back to earth like the skier in the old Wide World Of Sports intro after their super bowl/World CUP vs the Cats.

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OU beating the daylights out of BAMA. up 30.

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WVU holding the line. Up 8 66-58 at the under 8 TO.

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Unranked WVU doing work over SECSECSEC!!! #15 Auburn

45-29 @ halftime.

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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Ok State game
« on: January 10, 2023, 07:56:52 PM »
To the wire. Again.

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Says someone who never saw or doesn't remember Ski Jones draining a 3 from 35 feet in Allen to seal a K-State win. Ski is the K-State standard for three-pointers
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Yea, that was a bomb.

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