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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Julius Randle: Role Model, Hero

« on: March 21, 2013, 04:58:15 PM »

Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.

If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.

KU is not getting Wiggins. I would love if it would happen, but it is not happening.

That's a little assumptive, no? FSU tanked this year and though I believe they are a big player for him, that had to hurt a bit. Wiggins isn't the kind of kid who loves the recruiting process. He's also not the kind of kid who loves the spotlight. Where is the spotlight going to shine brightest next year? Kentucky. Brightest on him? Florida State.

I don't think we're the favorite. And those characterizations I made above are from recruiting "experts". But in recent weeks, it has become less clear who his favorite is. People have said to not count out Kansas or North Carolina.

I don't know if it's the Randle letdown that has you waving the white flag so early or what but it's totally dumb to do so. When we're one of four finalists, we have a shot.

I believe that UK and FSU are still the leaders for him. But I don't think UNC and KU are too far behind.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Julius Randle: Role Model, Hero

« on: March 21, 2013, 04:28:06 PM »

Self went out and got a great class of 3-4 year players. Minus Selden. I think he's a two year guy.

If he manages to land Wiggins to bridge the gap between this year and 2014-2015, it will no doubt be his best class at KU.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:49:56 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

It's asinine that you believe that us playing a shitty game and officials favoring KU are mutually exclusive events. Both occurred tonight.

They aren't mutually exclusive events. But the refs weren't that bad. It's funny how the losing team almost always has something to say about the refs. You guys played like sh*t. I agree.

But if you want to talk about mutually exclusive events, how about you explain why you believe that State playing poorly and KU playing great defense are mutually exclusive.

KU absolutely did play great defense. I don't see anyone on here arguing that they didn't. However, arguing that they committed no fouls prior to us committing six is ridiculous.  Examples provided by others in this thread. Look, I understand that it is hard to comprehend that you are getting preferential treatment whenever you've experienced it for as long as you can remember. It still doesn't make it any less true that it occurs, as demonstrated by the chart you posted here.

Thanks for giving a bit of credit where credit is due. Perhaps we should have had a foul or two by the time you had six, but you were just committing them at a much higher rate than we were. Any ref with eyes could see that.

To the rest of your post: 

So while dismissing my post you actually confirmed my point that you were receiving preferential treatment. Nice work.  At least you're on the road to recovery, the first step is admittance.

Nope. Dismissed the idiotic bits. Admitted that calls can be missed. Refs aren't infallible. Everyone knows that. You guys could have had another one by that point or one less. We could have had one or two. Officiating isn't a perfect science. It requires judgment calls, just like umpiring. No preferential treatment.

Tell me--because I truly don't know--do NC State fans act this way toward Duke or Carolina? Do SEC teams' fans act this way towards Kentucky? Do they too not understand that they are just consistently overmatched, or are they more realistic, admit that it isn't them against the world?

No one here is saying that KU isn't more talented or shouldn't have won this game. We have entire threads devoted to that, including one titled "Weber May Never Beat KU In His Time Here." We are also saying that the officials favor KU. The two events are unrelated. I do find it hilarious that you are seeking some form of validation on a K-State website after a KU victory though.

Whatever you say, sir.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:47:00 PM »

Lawrence which goEMAW.com poster or thread, specifically, are you referring to who blames our loss on the refs?

Including, but not limited to, the gems within the "5 fouls to zip" thread. I understand what you're doing. You want to make the point that I can't, from memory, tell you the names of all the whiny posters. But I usually browse this forum for a few minutes when we play you guys and it's usually pretty complain-y. Tonight was a special kind of dumb though; I felt compelled to post.

Special kind of dumb

I guess I don't get the joke. Oh well.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:43:43 PM »

Lawrence which goEMAW.com poster or thread, specifically, are you referring to who blames our loss on the refs?

Including, but not limited to, the gems within the "5 fouls to zip" thread. I understand what you're doing. You want to make the point that I can't, from memory, tell you the names of all the whiny posters. But I usually browse this forum for a few minutes when we play you guys and it's usually pretty complain-y. Tonight was a special kind of dumb though; I felt compelled to post.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:38:38 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

It's asinine that you believe that us playing a shitty game and officials favoring KU are mutually exclusive events. Both occurred tonight.

They aren't mutually exclusive events. But the refs weren't that bad. It's funny how the losing team almost always has something to say about the refs. You guys played like sh*t. I agree.

But if you want to talk about mutually exclusive events, how about you explain why you believe that State playing poorly and KU playing great defense are mutually exclusive.

KU absolutely did play great defense. I don't see anyone on here arguing that they didn't. However, arguing that they committed no fouls prior to us committing six is ridiculous.  Examples provided by others in this thread. Look, I understand that it is hard to comprehend that you are getting preferential treatment whenever you've experienced it for as long as you can remember. It still doesn't make it any less true that it occurs, as demonstrated by the chart you posted here.

Thanks for giving a bit of credit where credit is due. Perhaps we should have had a foul or two by the time you had six, but you were just committing them at a much higher rate than we were. Any ref with eyes could see that.

To the rest of your post: 

So while dismissing my post you actually confirmed my point that you were receiving preferential treatment. Nice work.  At least you're on the road to recovery, the first step is admittance.

Nope. Dismissed the idiotic bits. Admitted that calls can be missed. Refs aren't infallible. Everyone knows that. You guys could have had another one by that point or one less. We could have had one or two. Officiating isn't a perfect science. It requires judgment calls, just like umpiring. No preferential treatment.

Tell me--because I truly don't know--do NC State fans act this way toward Duke or Carolina? Do SEC teams' fans act this way towards Kentucky? Do they too not understand that they are just consistently overmatched, or are they more realistic, admit that it isn't them against the world?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:29:57 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

It's asinine that you believe that us playing a shitty game and officials favoring KU are mutually exclusive events. Both occurred tonight.

They aren't mutually exclusive events. But the refs weren't that bad. It's funny how the losing team almost always has something to say about the refs. You guys played like sh*t. I agree.

But if you want to talk about mutually exclusive events, how about you explain why you believe that State playing poorly and KU playing great defense are mutually exclusive.

KU absolutely did play great defense. I don't see anyone on here arguing that they didn't. However, arguing that they committed no fouls prior to us committing six is ridiculous.  Examples provided by others in this thread. Look, I understand that it is hard to comprehend that you are getting preferential treatment whenever you've experienced it for as long as you can remember. It still doesn't make it any less true that it occurs, as demonstrated by the chart you posted here.

Thanks for giving a bit of credit where credit is due. Perhaps we should have had a foul or two by the time you had six, but you were just committing them at a much higher rate than we were. Any ref with eyes could see that.

To the rest of your post: 

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:21:18 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

It's asinine that you believe that us playing a shitty game and officials favoring KU are mutually exclusive events. Both occurred tonight.

They aren't mutually exclusive events. But the refs weren't that bad. It's funny how the losing team almost always has something to say about the refs. You guys played like sh*t. I agree.

But if you want to talk about mutually exclusive events, how about you explain why you believe that State playing poorly and KU playing great defense are mutually exclusive.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:16:19 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

who in particular around here was blaming the loss on the refs?  TIA.

There was an entire thread devoted to it.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:15:52 PM »

dip crap....9 fouls. Now look at your season averages.  Please remove head from rectum.

Can you even explain what other fouls should have been called on us tonight? Really, you guys weren't playing offense in such a way that we should have gotten many. We played a pretty clean game.

Dude the first foul called on Rodney was him hitting Withey on the elbow with his head!  In every other league that is over the back on Whitey.  Once again Whitey had a foul removed from him and placed to a roll player (I think Tharpe's first).  Just stop your blatant homer-ism and watch a game.  Try to mentally focus on it for just one game.  These refs are down right incompetent and consistently favor KU.

For one, you're being silly complaining about that. Secondly, you just yelled about one foul. If it had been called on the Hawks, you'd still be crying.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:14:26 PM »

http://statsheet.com/mcb/conferences/big-12/fouls

More stats illustrating my point. KU doesn't get some huge boost and everyone else doesn't get railed. So much of it is dependent on style of play and individual players.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:12:07 PM »

On another note though..why? Why do you guys ALWAYS go to the refs instead of just accepting that you lost to a better team? It's just asinine.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:11:18 PM »

dip crap....9 fouls. Now look at your season averages.  Please remove head from rectum.

Can you even explain what other fouls should have been called on us tonight? Really, you guys weren't playing offense in such a way that we should have gotten many. We played a pretty clean game.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 10:02:46 PM »

You should forward this to Musberger. He seemed to agree that the refs were sucking KU off tonight.

Musberger doesn't know his d*ck from a zit on Spradling's face. His opinion doesn't mean a whole lot. I'll take the stats.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:58:17 PM »

The fact you were compelled to come here to post this bogus crap is revealing.
You needn't feel bad. Your team gets all the calls (i.e. 13 plus minutes in the first half before getting a whistle and it charged to the wrong player). If it were my team, I'd keep my head down and just enjoy.

Was curious how you guys were reacting. Saw a bunch of blame shifting. Decided to pass on some actual evidence. Turns out you guys just want to rant and rave and feel like victims. Color me shocked.

you lost to tcu.  lolz

And yet you couldn't beat us. Not in Lawrence. Not in KC. Not even in Manhattan. Think about that.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:55:19 PM »

My goodness I've never met such a butthurt bunch of fans.

There are certainly worse fans in the world. But you guys really can't handle defeat graciously.

"butthurt"

Is that a swear word too? Does that also offend your sensibilities, Nancy?

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:52:25 PM »

The fact you were compelled to come here to post this bogus crap is revealing.
You needn't feel bad. Your team gets all the calls (i.e. 13 plus minutes in the first half before getting a whistle and it charged to the wrong player). If it were my team, I'd keep my head down and just enjoy.

Was curious how you guys were reacting. Saw a bunch of blame shifting. Decided to pass on some actual evidence. Turns out you guys just want to rant and rave and feel like victims. Color me shocked.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:51:28 PM »

My goodness I've never met such a butthurt bunch of fans.

There are certainly worse fans in the world. But you guys really can't handle defeat graciously.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:43:50 PM »

not sure you know how to chart .jpg

Not my chart .jpg

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:40:10 PM »

don't click. virus.

Hilarious.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Foul Statistics (that's right--something substantiated)

« on: March 16, 2013, 09:38:16 PM »

http://www.encyclonepedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/fouls-margins-margin.jpg

Shows that we actually get less of a home advantage, fouls-wise, than any other team in the Big XII.

And if you look more closely at the total fouls called against/fouls called against opponent, you'll see further evidence that there is no grand conspiracy against the rest of the Big XII. Sometimes it's hard to admit it when you just get outplayed. You guys really did have a good season though and you should be proud of it. Best of luck in the tourney (unless we meet again).

Rock Chalk