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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 22, 2011, 11:18:27 PM »
Thank god my dad is an avid O'Reilly watcher, or else I wouldn't have heard about it as all my friends are communists.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 20, 2011, 09:43:12 PM »QuoteYes, when Beth won all of EMAW won.
I guess. Fitz also runs one of the most successful rivals.com sites.
He's awesome as well!!!
ok gloomy gloom gloom
I'm sorry. This site and supporting ANYTHING fitz is against is getting brutally annoying. Beth's argument is pure garbage, and everyone knows it. Her argument is straight out of a New York Times blog, one entry on EMAW at kstatesports.com that no one reads, and is completely void of the true meaning of EMAW and why we've loved the slogan for the last six years.
The fact she is still beating this drum shows how much of a whore she is (just like fitz)
There are plenty of people that do good for EMAW, that don't whore themselves out. This sh*t is just disgusting. Kstaters are not whores. We are good people that do good for the community, not for ourselves.
If you want to be a whore, go attend a rich overrated college in baltimore.
For real? Your crap is totally hyperbolic.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 20, 2011, 11:39:29 AM »Quote
LifeofFitz Tim Fitzgerald
It is funny that in this argument over the EMAW trademark, Beth violated the copyright of @GoPowercat by stealing/circulating our material.
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Interesting assertion. Now, for the record: Beth, did you pull the posts off gopowercat? I have a difficult time believing you are a paid subscriber to gopowercat, but you never know...
A screenshot was sent to me by a friend. I never considered the possibility of copyright infringement, but I guess I never thought of the disgusting rhetoric I saw as legitimate content either.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 20, 2011, 01:38:43 AM »
@jtksu:
You seem to have a problem with me personally, have we met before?
@everyone else:
i wrote this, and posted it here, at the request of goEMAW.com moderators. no one is forcing you to read it.
You seem to have a problem with me personally, have we met before?
@everyone else:
i wrote this, and posted it here, at the request of goEMAW.com moderators. no one is forcing you to read it.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 20, 2011, 12:09:54 AM »
Official response to everything:
Despite our obvious differences, there is one thing the people at goEMAW.com have absolutely right: K-State is a state of mind. The 5 years I spent at our university has made an indelible impression on my soul, and reinforces a Mendenhall family history steeped in purple pride. I love Kansas State, and as a new graduate student at a totally different university in a big city, I miss the Manhattan campus and students every single day.
Recently, the resurgence of the EMAW/EPAW controversy has drawn my attention back to Manhattan. I write here today to clear up some misconceptions about the EPAW movement, and especially my own involvement in it. I speak to you honestly, and with the best of intentions.
First, the argument. It’s really pretty simple. Terms like “man” and “mankind,” while ostensibly representing the entirety of humankind, do not. Absence of malicious intention is irrelevant. A significant amount of social science research indicates that language shapes the way we perceive and create our reality. The assumption that a term like “mankind” is universal is rooted in our cultural belief that men are the norm and women are derivative. There is an alternative term, “humankind,” which has the same denotation without the men-define-us connotations of “mankind.” There is a reason that women are still paid less than men for the same job, despite formal legal equality. That reason is the cultural and social biases in favor of men, and against women. Those cultural themes are not explicit. They operate below the level of public consciousness, and are both reflected and reinforced by our language choices. As such, the way you “feel” about what EMAW means, and what it reinforces, is not relevant. The effect gendered language has on us operates at a lower level of consciousness, but that makes it no less insidious.
EPAW does not alter a tradition. As eloquently described by goEMAW.com, “EMAW” represents a continuity of feeling between K-State students and alumni. The “M” is not the tradition, the “we are all wildcats” message is. “EPAW” maintains that tradition, but acknowledges progress in the culture of K-State students. The EMAW/EPAW debate is an opportunity for students to act on the progress in cultural gender equality achieved since the “traditional” slogan was coined. The reality of gender relations has come a long way since EMAW came to K-State, but it still has a long way to go. Those who believe that men and women have equal opportunity in our society are willfully ignorant. Because language both reflects and reinforces our reality, altering our slogan is a key step between formal equality, achieved since EMAW, and social equality, which has yet to actualize.
Now, the counter-arguments. To be honest, my responses to the #saveEMAW folks have gotten more and more aggressive and ad hominem-y because I really feel that they stem from closed-minded ignorance. For example, the fact that many K-State women are ok with EMAW is irrelevant. An unknowing victim of cultural male bias can be complicit in reinforcing the stereotypes that disempower her. Just because some women claim not to “feel” oppressed does not mean that they don’t live in a society that rewards them less for equal contributions. Additionally, “tradition” is not a strong argument for anything. It is “traditional” for women to be homemakers, racial minorities to occupy lower classes, and applying leeches to alleviate illness. “Tradition” is a description, not a value-claim.
The most ridiculous claim made by the #saveEMAW folks is that, following my argument to its logical conclusion, we would need to change our town’s name to “Personhattan” and I ought to adopt the moniker “Peopledenhall.” I know some of you are tweeting such things to be annoying, but others seem to honestly believe there is a connection here. This reveals a fundamental ignorance about gendered language that pervades much of the #saveEMAW contingent. There is a difference between words with the letters “m-a-n” or “m-e-n” and gendered language. Enough said.
Now, to clear up some misconceptions about my role in all this. In the last few days, I’ve received a deluge of commentary on facebook, twitter, and via email. Many believe I am “wasting my time.” In reality, writing this piece is the most time I’ve spent advocating for EPAW since I wrote the original article. I’ve moved on, to Baltimore, graduate school, and building a career for myself. The sign in front of the union, the new band formations, and the EPAW cookies at Hy-Vee are simply signs that the movement is picking up steam.
I did, however, recently fly home to attend the Kent State football game with my parents and friends from the debate team. While tailgating, I heard Tim Fitzgerald, of gopowercat.com and Powercat illustrated, make a series of ignorant and inaccurate statements about the EMAW/EPAW debate on the radio. Some friends and I went to find his tent at the game, and I approached him to explain the pro-EPAW arguments, as I felt he was building and attacking a straw-person. Initially, Mr. Fitzgerald refused to talk to me, saying after roughly 30 seconds “this conversation is over” and walking back to the free BBQ. After asking another radio station employee if this was how they generally treated their listeners, and K-State fans and alums, Mr. Fitzgerald was compelled to continue the conversation. Throughout the entire exchange Mr. Fitzgerald was rude and dismissive, and repeatedly called me and my opinion “silly.” I knew the best approach was a non-aggressive and reasonable one, and my goal was not to convince him to support EPAW, but rather to show him that he had misconceived the motivation behind the EPAW movement. Mr. Fitzgerald would listen to a few sentences, then re-state my argument hyperbolically, and dismiss it as silly. The account of the conversation posted on his website is, in my opinion, inaccurate. I left the 101.5 tent frustrated and upset, and in desperate need of a beer.
Since then, Mr. Fitzgerald has posted on his site that the conversation ended with him saying “nice talk, babe” and slapping me on the butt. This is inaccurate, and also highly offensive. To me, it reveals his attitude towards me during the conversation. I was simply a sex-object being cute by trying to express an unreasonable opinion, and when defeated by the big man with the BBQ, I needed to be reassured of my value as a woman with a butt-slap. I am not your “babe,” Mr. Fitzgerald, and your form of “humor” might have been acceptable in 1950’s America, but today simply reflects your commitment to a misogynistic mindset. It’s easy for men, who largely do not have to fear sexual assault or harassment, and don’t get discriminated against because of their gender, to think that this joke is funny. For me, it shows that some leaders of the K-State fan base simply don’t take women seriously.
Unfortunately, inappropriate and vitriolic comments like Mr. Fitzgerald’s have plagued the #saveEMAW movement. After writing the initial argument, one commenter expressed a desire to hit me in the face with a shovel. Others on gopowercat.com have demanded that I “know my role,” and one commenter even alluded to engaging me sexually against my will. After I was honored on the field along with the debate team at the football game, a fan yelled “eat crap, Mendenhall!” as we climbed the stairs to return to our tailgate. These few examples represent literally hundreds of ridiculous online comments. I have a tough skin, and I can handle the hate generated by the #saveEMAW movement. My concern is the way these people are representing our university, and what they say about our student body.
So, where do I hope we go from here? Well, for one, I would encourage anyone who is offended by Mr. Fitzgerald’s verbal sexual harassment to contact him, or President Schulz, about his representation of our university. Members of gopowercat.com could post on the forums populated by the underbelly of the #saveEMAW movement. In terms of EPAW, I have no involvement in the official distancing of the university from EMAW. I never called for banning the slogan- what I want is an organic movement by the students to change their slogan. If the students don’t want to adopt EPAW, that’s a shame. If they continue to publicly say violent and hateful things about EPAW supporters, that’s a bigger shame.
Finally, I want to address goEMAW.com directly. After some initial creepiness involving close analysis of pictures of me, the folks that populate the goEMAW.com forums have been open-minded and welcoming. Much of the support for EMAW expressed on this site is based on the idea that EMAW is not an acronym, but a distinct feeling of pride in K-State. They describe this feeling eloquently on their website. I believe, however, that their supposition that EMAW is not an acronym is incorrect. The pictures of Ahearn field house supporting EMAW as a tradition say “Every Man a Wildcat.” Furthermore, if EMAW is merely a reflection of a distinct and independent feeling one gets from being a K-Stater, then why do we need the “M”? A more accurate reflection of that feeling would be a gender-neutral one.
I believe that most of the people involved in the EMAW/EPAW debate, on both sides, have good intentions. We are all speaking from a place of pride in our university. Those who are exasperated by the fact that a semantic debate is taking up so much of our attention make a good point, however. I believe that what has made this conflict newsworthy is not the relative success of the EPAW movement, but the hateful backlash to it. What we need now is a productive campus dialog; we must strive to eschew hyperbolic claims in favor of well-reasoned arguments. I’ll be watching from a safe distance.
I would like to thank goEMAW.com for inviting me to write something for their website.
Edited to add breaks and correct typo.
Despite our obvious differences, there is one thing the people at goEMAW.com have absolutely right: K-State is a state of mind. The 5 years I spent at our university has made an indelible impression on my soul, and reinforces a Mendenhall family history steeped in purple pride. I love Kansas State, and as a new graduate student at a totally different university in a big city, I miss the Manhattan campus and students every single day.
Recently, the resurgence of the EMAW/EPAW controversy has drawn my attention back to Manhattan. I write here today to clear up some misconceptions about the EPAW movement, and especially my own involvement in it. I speak to you honestly, and with the best of intentions.
First, the argument. It’s really pretty simple. Terms like “man” and “mankind,” while ostensibly representing the entirety of humankind, do not. Absence of malicious intention is irrelevant. A significant amount of social science research indicates that language shapes the way we perceive and create our reality. The assumption that a term like “mankind” is universal is rooted in our cultural belief that men are the norm and women are derivative. There is an alternative term, “humankind,” which has the same denotation without the men-define-us connotations of “mankind.” There is a reason that women are still paid less than men for the same job, despite formal legal equality. That reason is the cultural and social biases in favor of men, and against women. Those cultural themes are not explicit. They operate below the level of public consciousness, and are both reflected and reinforced by our language choices. As such, the way you “feel” about what EMAW means, and what it reinforces, is not relevant. The effect gendered language has on us operates at a lower level of consciousness, but that makes it no less insidious.
EPAW does not alter a tradition. As eloquently described by goEMAW.com, “EMAW” represents a continuity of feeling between K-State students and alumni. The “M” is not the tradition, the “we are all wildcats” message is. “EPAW” maintains that tradition, but acknowledges progress in the culture of K-State students. The EMAW/EPAW debate is an opportunity for students to act on the progress in cultural gender equality achieved since the “traditional” slogan was coined. The reality of gender relations has come a long way since EMAW came to K-State, but it still has a long way to go. Those who believe that men and women have equal opportunity in our society are willfully ignorant. Because language both reflects and reinforces our reality, altering our slogan is a key step between formal equality, achieved since EMAW, and social equality, which has yet to actualize.
Now, the counter-arguments. To be honest, my responses to the #saveEMAW folks have gotten more and more aggressive and ad hominem-y because I really feel that they stem from closed-minded ignorance. For example, the fact that many K-State women are ok with EMAW is irrelevant. An unknowing victim of cultural male bias can be complicit in reinforcing the stereotypes that disempower her. Just because some women claim not to “feel” oppressed does not mean that they don’t live in a society that rewards them less for equal contributions. Additionally, “tradition” is not a strong argument for anything. It is “traditional” for women to be homemakers, racial minorities to occupy lower classes, and applying leeches to alleviate illness. “Tradition” is a description, not a value-claim.
The most ridiculous claim made by the #saveEMAW folks is that, following my argument to its logical conclusion, we would need to change our town’s name to “Personhattan” and I ought to adopt the moniker “Peopledenhall.” I know some of you are tweeting such things to be annoying, but others seem to honestly believe there is a connection here. This reveals a fundamental ignorance about gendered language that pervades much of the #saveEMAW contingent. There is a difference between words with the letters “m-a-n” or “m-e-n” and gendered language. Enough said.
Now, to clear up some misconceptions about my role in all this. In the last few days, I’ve received a deluge of commentary on facebook, twitter, and via email. Many believe I am “wasting my time.” In reality, writing this piece is the most time I’ve spent advocating for EPAW since I wrote the original article. I’ve moved on, to Baltimore, graduate school, and building a career for myself. The sign in front of the union, the new band formations, and the EPAW cookies at Hy-Vee are simply signs that the movement is picking up steam.
I did, however, recently fly home to attend the Kent State football game with my parents and friends from the debate team. While tailgating, I heard Tim Fitzgerald, of gopowercat.com and Powercat illustrated, make a series of ignorant and inaccurate statements about the EMAW/EPAW debate on the radio. Some friends and I went to find his tent at the game, and I approached him to explain the pro-EPAW arguments, as I felt he was building and attacking a straw-person. Initially, Mr. Fitzgerald refused to talk to me, saying after roughly 30 seconds “this conversation is over” and walking back to the free BBQ. After asking another radio station employee if this was how they generally treated their listeners, and K-State fans and alums, Mr. Fitzgerald was compelled to continue the conversation. Throughout the entire exchange Mr. Fitzgerald was rude and dismissive, and repeatedly called me and my opinion “silly.” I knew the best approach was a non-aggressive and reasonable one, and my goal was not to convince him to support EPAW, but rather to show him that he had misconceived the motivation behind the EPAW movement. Mr. Fitzgerald would listen to a few sentences, then re-state my argument hyperbolically, and dismiss it as silly. The account of the conversation posted on his website is, in my opinion, inaccurate. I left the 101.5 tent frustrated and upset, and in desperate need of a beer.
Since then, Mr. Fitzgerald has posted on his site that the conversation ended with him saying “nice talk, babe” and slapping me on the butt. This is inaccurate, and also highly offensive. To me, it reveals his attitude towards me during the conversation. I was simply a sex-object being cute by trying to express an unreasonable opinion, and when defeated by the big man with the BBQ, I needed to be reassured of my value as a woman with a butt-slap. I am not your “babe,” Mr. Fitzgerald, and your form of “humor” might have been acceptable in 1950’s America, but today simply reflects your commitment to a misogynistic mindset. It’s easy for men, who largely do not have to fear sexual assault or harassment, and don’t get discriminated against because of their gender, to think that this joke is funny. For me, it shows that some leaders of the K-State fan base simply don’t take women seriously.
Unfortunately, inappropriate and vitriolic comments like Mr. Fitzgerald’s have plagued the #saveEMAW movement. After writing the initial argument, one commenter expressed a desire to hit me in the face with a shovel. Others on gopowercat.com have demanded that I “know my role,” and one commenter even alluded to engaging me sexually against my will. After I was honored on the field along with the debate team at the football game, a fan yelled “eat crap, Mendenhall!” as we climbed the stairs to return to our tailgate. These few examples represent literally hundreds of ridiculous online comments. I have a tough skin, and I can handle the hate generated by the #saveEMAW movement. My concern is the way these people are representing our university, and what they say about our student body.
So, where do I hope we go from here? Well, for one, I would encourage anyone who is offended by Mr. Fitzgerald’s verbal sexual harassment to contact him, or President Schulz, about his representation of our university. Members of gopowercat.com could post on the forums populated by the underbelly of the #saveEMAW movement. In terms of EPAW, I have no involvement in the official distancing of the university from EMAW. I never called for banning the slogan- what I want is an organic movement by the students to change their slogan. If the students don’t want to adopt EPAW, that’s a shame. If they continue to publicly say violent and hateful things about EPAW supporters, that’s a bigger shame.
Finally, I want to address goEMAW.com directly. After some initial creepiness involving close analysis of pictures of me, the folks that populate the goEMAW.com forums have been open-minded and welcoming. Much of the support for EMAW expressed on this site is based on the idea that EMAW is not an acronym, but a distinct feeling of pride in K-State. They describe this feeling eloquently on their website. I believe, however, that their supposition that EMAW is not an acronym is incorrect. The pictures of Ahearn field house supporting EMAW as a tradition say “Every Man a Wildcat.” Furthermore, if EMAW is merely a reflection of a distinct and independent feeling one gets from being a K-Stater, then why do we need the “M”? A more accurate reflection of that feeling would be a gender-neutral one.
I believe that most of the people involved in the EMAW/EPAW debate, on both sides, have good intentions. We are all speaking from a place of pride in our university. Those who are exasperated by the fact that a semantic debate is taking up so much of our attention make a good point, however. I believe that what has made this conflict newsworthy is not the relative success of the EPAW movement, but the hateful backlash to it. What we need now is a productive campus dialog; we must strive to eschew hyperbolic claims in favor of well-reasoned arguments. I’ll be watching from a safe distance.
I would like to thank goEMAW.com for inviting me to write something for their website.
Edited to add breaks and correct typo.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:24:27 PM »
Ok I have to disengage from this conversation for the moment, but I promise I'll be back at some point soon.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:23:29 PM »beth have you considered going to the fire meeting on thursday at 6pm? union room 202 - would be awesome (in addition to posting here)
I live in Baltimore now :(
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:23:07 PM »Quote
I am surprised by this but I guess her efforts probably wouldn't involve you per se.
So was Fitz super sweaty? Did he have a condiment of some kind spilled on his bowling shirt.
LOL he was wiping bbq sauce off his face during the first 30 seconds of the conversation.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:13:07 PM »
Also, how much involvement has the First Lady had in the EMAW issue? Inquiring minds want to know.
#teamEPAW
I have no idea to be honest. I haven't been involved in any EPAW business since I wrote the original article.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:07:01 PM »You don't shave your legs, do you? How many cats do you currently own?
I shave my legs, and I own one cat. I have a boyfriend, and if you ask me, he's pretty hot.
The term "femi-nazi" is ridiculous and offensive, but even if you accept it, those connotations don't apply to me.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:03:43 PM »beth, haters are going to hate. It is incredible how insecure you make them. Keep on keepin' on.
Also, the offer to write about the EMAW/EPAW issue is still on the table. You will have carte blanch.
#teamEPAW
I'm like crazy busy at the moment, so unfortunately despite the recent uproar over EMAW/EPAW I don't think I can write something original. Graduate school is hard!
I'm trying so hard not to get sucked back into all this, but I went to last weekend's game and it all came rushing back!
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 10:01:16 PM »So, some people's opinions are worth more than others? Sounds pretty bitchy to me. Either that orWhich one is it?
There is no such thing as the "worth" of an opinion, but it can be supported by accurate evidence, or it can be supported by logical fallacies, ignorance, etc. For example, a person that expresses the opinion "Black people are not as intelligent as white people" has a legal and social right to that opinion, but that does not mean the opinion is well-founded. I believe that arguments that rely on tradition are inherently suspect, and generally shallow. My argument is based on social-science research about the effects of language.
I don't think expressing my disagreement with someone makes me a bitch. Holding them to the same standards of logic and evidence that I hold myself to is reasonable, and predictable.
Oh- and about the "guys" thing. I'm kind of on the fence about that one actually. (a) I think its possible that usage has truly changed the meaning of that term, though I'm not exactly sure about that, and I don't think it applies to "mankind," and (b) It's been an effort to eliminate gendered language from my own vocabulary, and sometimes I unthinkingly use it. I was raised in the same culture as everyone else that's part of this conversation, and it's sometimes hard to change.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 09:55:08 PM »Beth, why are you under the impression that EMAW is an acronym?
And don't worry about Fitz. Much like a certain lightly-recruited quarterback, he shies away from contact.
Because I was always told it stands for "Every Man a Wildcat," and the pictures from Ahearn that support it as a tradition say "Every Man a Wildcat." I've never heard a well-supported alternative interpretation.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: September 19, 2011, 09:49:35 PM »
You guys crack me up.
I'm not really a bitch, btw, I just recognize that even though everyone has a right to express their personal opinion, that does not mean that all opinions are equally valid.
Also, Tim Fitzgerald's account of our conversation is NOT accurate and he was rude and dismissive throughout the entire thing. The man is totally a jerk.
I'm not really a bitch, btw, I just recognize that even though everyone has a right to express their personal opinion, that does not mean that all opinions are equally valid.
Also, Tim Fitzgerald's account of our conversation is NOT accurate and he was rude and dismissive throughout the entire thing. The man is totally a jerk.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: May 03, 2011, 09:01:01 PM »Could you write about EMAW vs. EPAW? Maybe interview a few people about what EMAW means to them, what it meant to you, and evaluate if what you learned comports with your initial thoughts and re-evaluate your stance on EPAW. We'll make some changes to the site in honor of your even handed self-debate. As you are a logical wizard with supreme powers of persuasion. Your arguments will inevitably be respected.
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deal.
i know it won't be a perfect sample size, but does anyone want to share why they prefer EMAW to EPAW? no sarcasm, please.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: May 03, 2011, 08:00:01 PM »
just to be perfectly clear: i know absolutely nothing about this site
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: May 03, 2011, 07:52:03 PM »
ok, what?
you still havent said what you would want me to write about. my problem is no topic ideas.
isn't this forum supposed to be about k-state sports? i know VERY little about our sports teams as compared to other schools, but i do know a lot of the players because I've tutored the athletes for years. at the football facility right now in fact. the problem with writing anything about that, however, is the potential breach-of-contract involved in mentioning any real details.
give me the deetz and ill give you some paragraphs.
you still havent said what you would want me to write about. my problem is no topic ideas.
isn't this forum supposed to be about k-state sports? i know VERY little about our sports teams as compared to other schools, but i do know a lot of the players because I've tutored the athletes for years. at the football facility right now in fact. the problem with writing anything about that, however, is the potential breach-of-contract involved in mentioning any real details.
give me the deetz and ill give you some paragraphs.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: May 03, 2011, 07:22:55 PM »
yo, im just lazy. is that so hard to understand??
i'd write ONE THING for you if you wanted, but idk how it would be relevant to this site.
and no, i didnt come back just to tell you about my graduate plans. im just not the kind of person who checks a forum all the time.
also, changing "s-h-i-t" to "cac" is totally lame.
i'd write ONE THING for you if you wanted, but idk how it would be relevant to this site.
and no, i didnt come back just to tell you about my graduate plans. im just not the kind of person who checks a forum all the time.
also, changing "s-h-i-t" to "cac" is totally lame.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: April 27, 2011, 03:34:26 PM »
While I appreciate your offer of frequent posting, I'll have to decline. I think looking at these animated emoticons more than 3-4 times a year would give me a seizure, I would eventually wind up not giving a "cac," and I've got to save up all my creative juices for graduate school.
Now, if you changed the website to "goEPAW.com" I might reconsider...
Now, if you changed the website to "goEPAW.com" I might reconsider...
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: April 27, 2011, 11:53:21 AM »
oh btw i got fired from the collegian - turned in my crap late a few too many times. saturday deadline was a terrible idea, and i just didn't really give a crap anymore.
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Essentially Flyertalk / Re: Beth Mendenhall FTW!!!!!!1111!!!!lllIII!!
« on: April 27, 2011, 11:51:30 AM »
It weirds me out when you all analyze my appearance, but I appreciate the congratulations.
Yes, that purple shirt is too small, No, I'm not tripping on shrooms in that picture, but I wish I was.
The other picture was taken after the end of a really long day debating.
There's no way either Derek or I could "carry the team" - speeches are divided in such a way that the burden is almost exactly equal.
I'm not going to law school - getting a PhD at Johns Hopkins in international relations.
this is the final round-
http://puttingthekindebate.com/2011/04/26/2011-ceda-nationals-final-round/
this is a podcast about it-
http://puttingthekindebate.com/2011/04/27/critical-issues-in-debate-kansas-state-wins-ceda-nationals-koehle-and-mendenhall/
Yes, that purple shirt is too small, No, I'm not tripping on shrooms in that picture, but I wish I was.
The other picture was taken after the end of a really long day debating.
There's no way either Derek or I could "carry the team" - speeches are divided in such a way that the burden is almost exactly equal.
I'm not going to law school - getting a PhD at Johns Hopkins in international relations.
this is the final round-
http://puttingthekindebate.com/2011/04/26/2011-ceda-nationals-final-round/
this is a podcast about it-
http://puttingthekindebate.com/2011/04/27/critical-issues-in-debate-kansas-state-wins-ceda-nationals-koehle-and-mendenhall/
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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: KSU pushing "Wabash"
« on: March 09, 2011, 08:49:51 PM »
definitely me. try to figure out a question you can ask that will prove it.
EPAW, bitches!
EPAW, bitches!
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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: KSU pushing "Wabash"
« on: March 09, 2011, 05:50:42 PM »
hah! come on, people. don't dish it out if you can't take it.
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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: KSU pushing "Wabash"
« on: March 09, 2011, 05:43:41 PM »
Also, I think the Wabash is cool as a song/dance, but lame as a slogan or whatever. Not going to buy a wabash t-shirt.
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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: KSU pushing "Wabash"
« on: March 09, 2011, 05:37:14 PM »
I mean, I have a pretty tough skin and just tell myself that the people referring to my adam's apple, sex change, etc. and calling me a "f*cking idiot" don't me at all, and if they did they would probably like me.
But I'm also a human being, who just wants to be liked, like everyone else. It's certainly not my place to say what the forum should and should not be used for, as I'm not a regular poster, but I can imagine a lot of people who would be very hurt by some of your insults.
The athletes included - I know many of them as I work as a tutor for Student Services for Intercollegiate Athletics, and they are people with feelings who Google themselves.
Basically I just think you're making K-State look really bad, and with things like this recent prostitute sting we already look bad enough.
But I'm also a human being, who just wants to be liked, like everyone else. It's certainly not my place to say what the forum should and should not be used for, as I'm not a regular poster, but I can imagine a lot of people who would be very hurt by some of your insults.
The athletes included - I know many of them as I work as a tutor for Student Services for Intercollegiate Athletics, and they are people with feelings who Google themselves.
Basically I just think you're making K-State look really bad, and with things like this recent prostitute sting we already look bad enough.
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