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Title: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 14, 2019, 07:18:20 AM
So the basket cats are 1/32 from behind the arc in the first half of our games so far this year. Is that bad? I mean, we keep winning, but it seems bad. Should our freshmen bigs be shooting it more? They seem to have nice touch from the outside, and our guards aren't shooting worth a crap. What's the answer, dudes?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 8manpick on November 14, 2019, 08:03:22 AM
Small sample sizes, regression to the mean, etc.
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Post by: deputy dawg on November 14, 2019, 08:11:34 AM
Regression to the mean implies that the 'Cats are going to shoot lights-out at some point to offset this crappy 1 for 32 start.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 8manpick on November 14, 2019, 08:18:34 AM
Not really. It means that the 1-32 is an outlier, and in future samples of 32 attempts, we can expect them to shoot closer to the percentage that reflects their true talent. It is not implicit that a positive outlier to offset the negative outlier will happen over the course of a relatively small set of samples.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on November 14, 2019, 10:41:17 AM
There will be games they shoot 65% we just hope it is when we play KU.  :ksu:
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 14, 2019, 02:20:22 PM
These dudes can't shoot. Luckily the extended three point lines opens up driving lanes and they're still figuring this out. It's why they have looked differently each half, they get the halftime adjustment to attack those lanes off of the dribble.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: meow meow on November 14, 2019, 03:19:05 PM
maybe oscar shouldn't wait until halftime to deliver that message  :dunno:
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: pissclams on November 14, 2019, 10:32:37 PM
oscar “the adjuster” weber has long been feared by rival coaches for his mastery of adjustments
these stats just prove how deadly the adjuster can be
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 15, 2019, 01:10:08 PM
Need some "The Adjuster" memes. "Just when you thought he couldn't adjust any further...he did." *deal with it shades*
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 15, 2019, 01:12:47 PM
These dudes can't shoot. Luckily the extended three point lines opens up driving lanes and they're still figuring this out. It's why they have looked differently each half, they get the halftime adjustment to attack those lanes off of the dribble.

Part of me is hoping that Sean Williams is able to come back and help with our lack of shooting, but I think all of me knows that he wouldn't actually help. He may actually be the lead Clankmigo.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: pissclams on November 15, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Need some "The Adjuster" memes. "Just when you thought he couldn't adjust any further...he did." *deal with it shades*
I tried to make a bunch of the adjuster memes but the adjuster broke through the computer and adjusted all of them
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 15, 2019, 03:14:43 PM
Need some "The Adjuster" memes. "Just when you thought he couldn't adjust any further...he did." *deal with it shades*
I tried to make a bunch of the adjuster memes but the adjuster broke through the computer and adjusted all of them
What a legend.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: dal9 on November 15, 2019, 03:45:37 PM
maybe oscar shouldn't wait until halftime to deliver that message  :dunno:

early blowouts wouldn't engage fans
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: slackcat on November 16, 2019, 04:45:49 AM
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Low shooting percentages...are they bad?

Not if they take a million shots a game.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: catastrophe on November 17, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
Why do we always seem to suck at shooting? Is that the trade off for guys who can play defense?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 18, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: meow meow on November 20, 2019, 08:36:37 AM
read on twitter last night that we had a game apparently, and not one post on gE.  i take it we aren't very good?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 20, 2019, 09:55:50 AM
We start slow and play down to our competition. The UNLV and North Dakota State games are good wins, but watching us play isn't pretty, that's probably why, bud. :cheers:
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: star seed 7 on November 20, 2019, 10:23:51 AM
Just have to let the adjuster work his half time magic
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: hemmy on November 21, 2019, 11:07:30 AM
So we almost lost to the 340th ranked team?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 21, 2019, 11:08:50 AM
Not really
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: hemmy on November 21, 2019, 11:11:07 AM
Stats say we aren't very good at anything sadly.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: michigancat on November 21, 2019, 11:14:10 AM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.

I haven't really watched much but it seems like we should consider running offense at a different pace.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: hemmy on November 21, 2019, 11:21:58 AM
Do we practice shooting? Maybe we should.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: meow meow on November 21, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
shooting goodly doesn't show up on the play hard chart
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 21, 2019, 11:52:30 AM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.

I haven't really watched much but it seems like we should consider running offense at a different pace.
i only saw the end of UNLV live and watched the highlights on YouTube but it looked liked we did press some in the 2nd half.  We have (for the oscar era) lots of long and athletic guys so I would love to see at least as a change up.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: michigancat on November 21, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
Do we practice shooting? Maybe we should.

yep and possibly recruit players who are already pretty good at shooting. what do I know though
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: pissclams on November 21, 2019, 01:20:13 PM
when the shots fall, it’s easy to ball.  that’s what i always say
lrwtp $$
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: meow meow on November 21, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
if all you can do is guard, play hard.  what oscar says.

lrwtp tho
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2019, 05:10:45 AM
Stats say we aren't very good at anything sadly.

What stats are you looking at?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2019, 05:13:23 AM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.

I haven't really watched much but it seems like we should consider running offense at a different pace.

oscar indicated before the season started that we would, but here we are, one of the most deliberate teams in America. We even walk it up when we play small, even with two PGs on the floor, together.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 22, 2019, 08:21:00 AM
Stats say we aren't very good at anything sadly.
Interesting, because it looks like we're still badasses at Defense, hemmy. You ever heard of that?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 8manpick on November 22, 2019, 09:10:37 AM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.

I haven't really watched much but it seems like we should consider running offense at a different pace.

oscar indicated before the season started that we would, but here we are, one of the most deliberate teams in America. We even walk it up when we play small, even with two PGs on the floor, together.
Seems like oscar says stuff like that before every year
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: michigancat on November 22, 2019, 09:13:22 AM
Kinda a trade off for playing the pace that we do, it emphasizes running really good offensive sets and we don't do that. There was a really good article in the athletic that had video of our pathetic offense in the first half, a lot of guard to guard passing with no effort made on away from the ball movement.

I haven't really watched much but it seems like we should consider running offense at a different pace.

oscar indicated before the season started that we would, but here we are, one of the most deliberate teams in America. We even walk it up when we play small, even with two PGs on the floor, together.
Seems like oscar says stuff like that before every year
Pretty sure every college coach in history has said they'll play fast and don't. I think it's usually just when they're hired though
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: pissclams on November 22, 2019, 01:10:26 PM
can confirm that asbury was ready to “run and gun”
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: meow meow on November 25, 2019, 08:58:26 AM
how's this stat for you 4-0.  stick that up your stat tree and smoke it
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 07, 2019, 08:23:58 PM
So this is gonna be a thing all season long huh
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 07, 2019, 08:34:51 PM
I mean this is just rough ridin' terrible
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Post by: chum1 on December 11, 2019, 07:24:54 PM
73.3% and 62.5% halfway through the first half.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: 'taterblast on December 11, 2019, 07:34:09 PM
SNW was holding back this team's shooting ability
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Post by: chum1 on December 11, 2019, 07:36:59 PM
18-24 and 9-13 lol
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 11, 2019, 07:55:45 PM
Never any doubt

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Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: dal9 on December 11, 2019, 08:36:25 PM
is SNW suspended again?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: Cire on December 11, 2019, 10:16:57 PM
is SNW suspended again?

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Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: dal9 on December 11, 2019, 10:46:24 PM
is SNW suspended again?

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not great news...had more raw talent than Sloan at least...
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: WildcatNation on December 12, 2019, 10:20:51 AM
is SNW suspended again?

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not great news...had more raw talent than Sloan at least...


................based on what?
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: chum1 on December 12, 2019, 10:32:53 AM
Given all of the minutes we lost at the guard position, I kinda thought Williams would have had a bigger impact this year than he's actually had.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 12, 2019, 12:25:53 PM
SNW and Oscar were clearly on the outs. Oscar doesn't even try with behavioral problems anymore. We've recruited over Williams for the future so his departure won't hurt like his refusal to work with Bullnuts has.
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Post by: kso_FAN on December 12, 2019, 01:30:24 PM
Best eFG% at K-State since 2002...
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 12, 2019, 01:37:32 PM
I don't expect Sneed to hit like that every game, but it would be nice if he shows up for challenging teams and not disappear like he did against Pitt and Marquette.
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: dal9 on December 12, 2019, 04:21:34 PM
is SNW suspended again?

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not great news...had more raw talent than Sloan at least...


................based on what?

just the way I saw it...
Title: Re: Low shooting percentages...are they bad?
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 14, 2019, 12:35:16 PM
So Sneed continues to disappear aginst any P5 competition.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
Dead ass team
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