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Title: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2019, 11:52:18 AM
socialism haters (all of us, this is America we love capitalism), please determine if the following is socialism.  Thank you.
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Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2019, 11:52:33 AM
Public high school
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Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 11:53:50 AM
Not socialism.
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Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
Not socialism.

Concur. Next


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2019, 11:59:56 AM
Medicare
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Post by: wetwillie on March 02, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
Medicare
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Not Socialism
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Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 12:23:31 PM
Yeah, not socialism. People tend to conflate socialism and social programs.
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Post by: Chingon on March 02, 2019, 12:27:23 PM
A non-flat income tax.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Yeah, not socialism. People tend to conflate socialism and social programs.

 :cheers: that's what this thread is all about
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Chingon on March 02, 2019, 12:29:59 PM
Common Core
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Post by: Chingon on March 02, 2019, 12:32:15 PM
Family Leave Act
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Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 12:36:40 PM
A non-flat income tax.
Progressive, ergo socialist.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Phil Titola on March 02, 2019, 01:25:10 PM
Free public college
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Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 01:53:29 PM
Free public college

Not socialism. No public services anyone is going to mention are socialist.


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 01:55:02 PM
V.A. Hospitals. Socialism?
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 01:55:52 PM
Net neutrality?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
V.A. Hospitals. Socialism?

No


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 01:58:37 PM
Net neutrality?

No


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 01:58:50 PM
Family Leave Act

No


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Title: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: DaBigTrain on March 02, 2019, 02:01:03 PM
Socialism?
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Post by: steve dave on March 02, 2019, 02:02:00 PM
Socialism?

Yes, that’s socialism


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:03:59 PM
Universal basic income
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:12:35 PM
Gay marriage?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
Not being racist?
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Post by: chum1 on March 02, 2019, 02:13:17 PM
Taking our guns?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:14:01 PM
Environmental conservation?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:15:09 PM
Islam?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 02, 2019, 02:17:51 PM
Message boarding?
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 03:24:23 PM
To be fair, people identifying themselves as "Democratic Socialists" yet not actually being socialists don't help assuage the confusion.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: treysolid on March 02, 2019, 04:39:47 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 04:43:50 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: treysolid on March 02, 2019, 04:44:40 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/ (https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/)
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Post by: DaBigTrain on March 02, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

That’s why I asked SD this earlier to get a baseline.

Socialism?

Yes, that’s socialist


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 06:55:17 PM
Education is not in the constitution, Department of Ed should be abolished.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 06:56:46 PM
V.A. Hospitals. Socialism?

no, i don't think so
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 06:57:50 PM
Net neutrality?

not socialism, just bullcrap
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 06:58:30 PM
Universal basic income

yes
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 07:37:34 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/ (https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/)

I think our discussion here mirrors the confusion in the national conversation re: socialism. There is absolutely no precision in the language used. At base, socialism means collective ownership of the means of production and the fruits thereof, whether you describe that collective as "the people" or "the government." Many of the social programs mentioned by you and in that poorly written/reasoned article may have been associated at one point with various political parties that branded themselves as some varietal of "Socialists," but there's a difference between political party affiliation and fundamental philosophy. That some party calling themselves Democratic Socialists, or [fill in the blank] Socialists, supports a program does mean that it is socialism.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
Lets put it this way, if the Government runs the business or pays for the product or service it will almost always suck.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: treysolid on March 02, 2019, 08:46:08 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/ (https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/)

I think our discussion here mirrors the confusion in the national conversation re: socialism. There is absolutely no precision in the language used. At base, socialism means collective ownership of the means of production and the fruits thereof, whether you describe that collective as "the people" or "the government." Many of the social programs mentioned by you and in that poorly written/reasoned article may have been associated at one point with various political parties that branded themselves as some varietal of "Socialists," but there's a difference between political party affiliation and fundamental philosophy. That some party calling themselves Democratic Socialists, or [fill in the blank] Socialists, supports a program does mean that it is socialism.

Make a concise argument as to why public education is not a socialist program. Because public education wouldn't exist in a purely capitalist society, so how else would you define it?
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on March 02, 2019, 08:48:05 PM
There are alot of fans of efficiency on this board that are big fans of the most inefficient organization on the planet.  Weird
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 02, 2019, 09:03:37 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/ (https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/)

I think our discussion here mirrors the confusion in the national conversation re: socialism. There is absolutely no precision in the language used. At base, socialism means collective ownership of the means of production and the fruits thereof, whether you describe that collective as "the people" or "the government." Many of the social programs mentioned by you and in that poorly written/reasoned article may have been associated at one point with various political parties that branded themselves as some varietal of "Socialists," but there's a difference between political party affiliation and fundamental philosophy. That some party calling themselves Democratic Socialists, or [fill in the blank] Socialists, supports a program does mean that it is socialism.

Make a concise argument as to why public education is not a socialist program. Because public education wouldn't exist in a purely capitalist society, so how else would you define it?

I think you've created a false dichotomy between "pure capitalism" and "socialism". Again, consider my post about conflating socialism and ideas espoused by professed Socialists. I am currently a Texan, but that doesn't mean all of my ideas are "Texan" ideas.

Here's my concise argument: The decision of The People to fund public education by allocation of certain monies from tax revenues has nothing to do with the state controlling the means of production. In support thereof, I submit to you that (a) most school funding comes from the local level, rather than the federal level, and (b) you are free to send your children to private schools, and in so doing you are in control of distributing the fruits of your labor to that personal end.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: treysolid on March 02, 2019, 11:34:45 PM
I would argue that public education, medicare/medicaid and social security ARE socialist programs. It's just that we as Americans need to be more comfortable with the fact that socialist programs aren't (in and of themselves) bad. Socialist programs such as these are necessary to check and offset the evils of a capitalist economy.

I'm surprised we've made it this far into the thread without defining the term under dispute, but I would suggest you look up what socialism means.

https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/ (https://www.investopedia.com/video/play/difference-between-communism-and-socialism/)

I think our discussion here mirrors the confusion in the national conversation re: socialism. There is absolutely no precision in the language used. At base, socialism means collective ownership of the means of production and the fruits thereof, whether you describe that collective as "the people" or "the government." Many of the social programs mentioned by you and in that poorly written/reasoned article may have been associated at one point with various political parties that branded themselves as some varietal of "Socialists," but there's a difference between political party affiliation and fundamental philosophy. That some party calling themselves Democratic Socialists, or [fill in the blank] Socialists, supports a program does mean that it is socialism.

Make a concise argument as to why public education is not a socialist program. Because public education wouldn't exist in a purely capitalist society, so how else would you define it?

I think you've created a false dichotomy between "pure capitalism" and "socialism". Again, consider my post about conflating socialism and ideas espoused by professed Socialists. I am currently a Texan, but that doesn't mean all of my ideas are "Texan" ideas.

Here's my concise argument: The decision of The People to fund public education by allocation of certain monies from tax revenues has nothing to do with the state controlling the means of production. In support thereof, I submit to you that (a) most school funding comes from the local level, rather than the federal level, and (b) you are free to send your children to private schools, and in so doing you are in control of distributing the fruits of your labor to that personal end.

Reason (a) is silly because government is government is government, whether that be federal, state or local. It's all "the State". The only thing that changes is the size of the pool of people that pays for the resource. Reason (b) is nullified by the fact that while parents are free to "opt out" of the public school system and send their children to private schools or have them home-schooled, neither I (a childless individual) nor the elderly (possessing no school-age children) are free from paying for the education of our neighbors children. If our economic system was built solely within a capitalist framework, I wouldn't be paying for ANY goods or services that did not DIRECTLY benefit me. I wouldn't be helping to pay for roads in Montana that I'll never drive on and I certainly wouldn't be subsidizing the cost of medication for senior citizens that I've never met. We authorize these things because we understand and acknowledge that the services performed here improve our society in ways that aren't always obvious. But let's not mince words - these are socialist constructs, and not just because somebody who called themselves a socialist said they were.

Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Phil Titola on March 03, 2019, 01:39:13 AM
Welp I guess my next one, roads, has been foreshadowed.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2019, 09:33:47 AM
When the government taxes, it is essentially taking ownership of the means of production by taking the fruits of that production.  Why own the cow when you can take my tax dollars and give to someone else?
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Post by: Spracne on March 03, 2019, 03:14:25 PM
I dont think taxation itself is socialism, but the inscrutable struggle with words and meaning strikes again . . .
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 03, 2019, 08:40:53 PM
I dont think taxation itself is socialism, but the inscrutable struggle with words and meaning strikes again . . .

Socialism can only exist when the state owns all factories, farms, transportation and utilities. 

We definitely have a difference of “words” and “meaning”. 
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Spracne on March 03, 2019, 08:59:13 PM
I dont think taxation itself is socialism, but the inscrutable struggle with words and meaning strikes again . . .

Socialism can only exist when the state owns all factories, farms, transportation and utilities. 

We definitely have a difference of “words” and “meaning”.

I think you have me mistaken.
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 03, 2019, 09:34:48 PM
i guess my question is what policies that are being suggested by democrats qualify as socialist?
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Post by: chum1 on March 03, 2019, 09:45:11 PM
Definitely criticized as socialist:

Government funded healthcare for all
Too much welfare
Too much Medicaid
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 04, 2019, 10:04:22 AM
I dont think taxation itself is socialism, but the inscrutable struggle with words and meaning strikes again . . .

Socialism can only exist when the state owns all factories, farms, transportation and utilities. 

We definitely have a difference of “words” and “meaning”.

I think you have me mistaken.

Yes you were.
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 04, 2019, 10:48:19 AM
Lets put it this way, if the Government runs the business or pays for the product or service it will almost always suck.

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-crew-dragon-capsule-nasa-demo1-mission-iss-docking-2019-3

Capitalism Trails Socialsim to Space by a measley 58 Years!!!
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 04, 2019, 10:48:52 AM
Definitely criticized as socialist:

Government funded healthcare for all
Too much welfare
Too much Medicaid

none of these are socialism either.

right?
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Post by: wetwillie on March 04, 2019, 11:37:47 AM
I think the British healthcare model is more actual socialism vs the Canadian model is not. 
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Post by: chum1 on March 04, 2019, 11:46:58 AM
Definitely criticized as socialist:

Government funded healthcare for all
Too much welfare
Too much Medicaid

none of these are socialism either.

right?

Depends on what's more significant for your purpose. Using a particular writer's definition. Or using the term as it is widely used.
Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: LickNeckey on March 04, 2019, 11:59:43 AM
just trying to pin down a definition used by most conservatives who only want to apply the widely used definition to programs they are not a fan of (i.e. any support of the less fortunate)
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 04, 2019, 12:45:26 PM
Minimum wage?
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on March 04, 2019, 12:49:03 PM
The movie captain marvel?
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Post by: Chingon on March 04, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
Monsters Inc.?
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Post by: puniraptor on March 04, 2019, 08:08:08 PM
alaska permanent fund, is it socialist?
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 05, 2019, 10:05:57 AM
let me see if i have this right...

military, education, interstate highway system - not socialist

welfare, medicare/medicaid/chip, unemployment - totes socialism

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Post by: Tubesock on March 05, 2019, 10:22:38 AM
let me see if i have this right...

military, education, interstate highway system - not socialist

welfare, medicare/medicaid/chip, unemployment - totes socialism

sorry about whatever bad happened to you LickNeckey
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 05, 2019, 12:34:21 PM
 :jerk:
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Post by: _33 on March 05, 2019, 01:14:04 PM
Well, if none of those things are socialism then Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist and the Scandinavian countries he points to as a model for socialism aren't socialist.
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Post by: LickNeckey on March 05, 2019, 01:22:30 PM
 :emawkid:
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Post by: bucknbasscat on March 05, 2019, 04:22:22 PM
How many socialist post on this board?
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2019, 04:24:05 PM
How many socialist post on this board?
Probably about 85% of the Pit now.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 05, 2019, 04:40:25 PM
Now that trump is a socialist its closer to 90
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 05, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
Pfftt. lol
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Post by: chum1 on March 10, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
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Post by: Phil Titola on March 10, 2019, 03:35:39 PM
How many socialist ideas do you have to support to get the socialist tag? 1?
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Post by: 8manpick on March 10, 2019, 03:36:54 PM
Outlawing straws is fascist, not socialist
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 11, 2019, 08:09:56 AM
Asking if the customer even wants a straw is just good policy, though.
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Post by: LickNeckey on May 06, 2019, 02:32:25 PM
https://gizmodo.com/bill-gates-actually-made-a-good-point-about-the-sociali-1834549235
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Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
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Post by: chum1 on July 04, 2019, 08:51:23 AM
They kept saying this in that PBS documentary. And National Parks are socialist as hell.

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Post by: puniraptor on July 05, 2019, 12:10:08 AM
baller graphic, would buy shirt #hammernsickle
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on July 23, 2019, 11:24:41 AM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 24, 2019, 12:43:11 PM
This is why kaz dub left
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Post by: 8manpick on August 29, 2019, 08:25:05 AM
?s=21
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Post by: steve dave on August 29, 2019, 08:37:47 AM
lmao


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Title: Re: Is this socialism? Official ruling thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 29, 2019, 09:14:48 AM
We're going to bribe farmers into loving us again.
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 09, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
The national weather service
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Post by: Phil Titola on September 11, 2019, 12:43:48 PM
?s=19
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Post by: LickNeckey on September 19, 2019, 07:23:38 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-19/farmers-say-trump-s-28-billion-bailout-isn-t-a-solution
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 19, 2019, 07:26:28 PM
one of my favorite things about texags is they will always call gm "government motors" and everyone swears they will never buy a gm car because of the bailout

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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 20, 2019, 10:58:32 AM
This is why kaz dub and dougie left and this is something dax will absolutely call Trump out on.  I mean, jfc talk about socialism
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Post by: catastrophe on September 20, 2019, 12:34:26 PM
Well comrades...
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Post by: passranch on September 20, 2019, 01:42:33 PM
?s=19

First they came for the flavored e-cigarettes and I said nothing because I don't vape...
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 20, 2019, 01:59:11 PM
It's 100 percent him trying to win back suburban moms knowing that the vaping dax's won't leave him
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on September 29, 2019, 02:04:09 PM
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Post by: steve dave on September 29, 2019, 02:14:41 PM
lmao


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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 30, 2019, 04:33:33 PM
that's got to be fake
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Post by: DaBigTrain on October 06, 2019, 07:03:07 PM
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Post by: treysolid on October 06, 2019, 07:55:06 PM
wow, trump believes that the soy bean farmers are dumber than he is
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 08, 2019, 03:54:24 PM
wow, trump believes that the soy bean farmers are dumber than he is

in general, they are
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Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2019, 12:03:15 PM
Well deserved, thank you sir




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Post by: Brock Landers on November 17, 2019, 12:38:13 PM
"Cash"
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Post by: Katpappy on November 17, 2019, 10:11:43 PM
Well deserved, thank you sir




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Ya know, if he just does good crap for the economy and keeps the rich happy; the son-of-bitch will win by a landslide.  BTY, this was what Clinton did in '96.
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Post by: DaBigTrain on November 17, 2019, 10:17:11 PM
Well deserved, thank you sir




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Ya know, if he just does good crap for the economy and keeps the rich happy; the son-of-bitch will win by a landslide. BTY, this was what Clinton did in '96.

I was silent and didn't say a word in that election.  Granted I was only 8 years old, but I said and did nothing.  Sad.
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Post by: Katpappy on November 17, 2019, 10:21:03 PM
Stock investors were making money hand over fist in the '90's.
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Post by: slackcat on November 18, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
wow, trump believes that the soy bean farmers are dumber than he is

in general, they are

 :shakesfist:
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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 18, 2019, 09:20:49 AM
Just remembering when being dumber than the president wasn't an insult
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Post by: slackcat on November 18, 2019, 09:34:05 AM
Stock investors were making money hand over fist in the '90's.

The tech bubble was so great.
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Post by: Katpappy on November 18, 2019, 06:19:59 PM
Stock investors were making money hand over fist in the '90's.

The tech bubble was so great.

Damn boomers, Making money inventing crap that old goats hated and kids(min's) loved.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2019, 11:26:12 PM
I feel like Katdaddy is forgetting gen x here.