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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: gatoveintisiete on January 05, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
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two squawkers at work were saying this years team is better than last years, I'm typically very skeptical of anything these jaggoffs have to say, they have spin for everything. They told me Selby > Sherron and losing Cole didn't hurt anything.
Thoughts on this talking point.
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Haven't played anyone. Hard to say.
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Sounds like these people are racist. Figures I suppose...
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I just want to reiterate how much I hate when people refer to KU as UK. Is it in jest or legitimate???
Kentucky is UK and Kansas is KU to me.
I find it an insult to the University of Kentucky to refer to Kansas as UK.
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I just want to reiterate how much I hate when people refer to KU as UK. Is it in jest or legitimate???
Kentucky is UK and Kansas is KU to me.
I find it an insult to the University of Kentucky to refer to Kansas as UK.
Kansas State University = KSU not USK
University of Kansas = UK not KU
:dunno:
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I just want to reiterate how much I hate when people refer to KU as UK. Is it in jest or legitimate???
Kentucky is UK and Kansas is KU to me.
I find it an insult to the University of Kentucky to refer to Kansas as UK.
Kansas State University = KSU not USK
University of Kansas = UK not KU
:dunno:
Every bit of KU memorabilia I have ever seen in my life...or Rock Chalk Jayhawk KU.....or anything else aside from the full name of "University of Kansas" is KU. This is the only site I have seen that likes to refer to them as UK.....
If their fans want to call themselves KU....I don't understand why KSU fans would insist on calling them a more accurate representation of their university.
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Haven't played anyone. Hard to say.
This was my reply to them, I think a decent team with some size would give them alot of problems, They seem like a crappy #3 but there really is not a whole lot else out there this year.
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I think this team is a better team than last year's. Loved Cole's ability to dominate defensively in the paint and his loss is apparent but Taylor + Selby > Sherron (FOAT) + Reid/Morningdrunk/Taylor. Robinson/Jr Morristards >/= Soph Morristards + Cole. Reid's shot seems to have improved as well. This year's team seems to have less experience together with the new minutes that Selby and Robinson are picking up, and the additional minutes that Reid and Taylor are getting. I think this team has more potential. Just my imo but they're good, not Duke good, but very good.
edit- selby as a freshman plays smarter and helps his team more than FOAT as a Sr
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I also think the UK/KU thing is pretty stupid.
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I also think the UK/KU thing is pretty stupid.
it's so clever!!
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I also think the UK/KU thing is pretty stupid.
it's so clever!!
whatever grape
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I also think the UK/KU thing is pretty stupid.
it's so clever!!
whatever grape
buncha squawks in this thread
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So what do you tards call Colorado and Oklahoma?
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So what do you tards call Colorado and Oklahoma?
shitty basketball teams
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Exactly.
One point for Mr. 42 please.
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I thought, prior to season, that we would at the very least split the series with KU and win 2 if we played them three times. Cole was the the biggest reason for us losing to them 3 times last year. We just had no answer offensively to his defense. Of course, my preseason prediction was based on me believing the KSU hype about the post players. In hindsight, it was incredibly stupid on my part, we'll be lucky to beat KU once this year. That said, losing Cole still hurts KU more than they think, and I don't think they'll be as good as last year, but they're still damn good.
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They are much better.
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KU will go farther in the tournament this year...which is what matters right?
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So what do you tards call Colorado and Oklahoma?
Very good point! :thumbsup:
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Better kstatefans/phog total burn? Grape or Beaker/Squawk combo? I can picture catfan28 at home taking a break from fapping to ksu girls volleyball pictures deciding to lay down some justice by calling some beaker a squawk. Then, just when he's getting ready to post someone drops a grape right on his head.
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Better kstatefans/phog total burn? Grape or Beaker/Squawk combo? I can picture catfan28 at home taking a break from fapping to ksu girls volleyball pictures deciding to lay down some justice by calling some beaker a squawk. Then, just when he's getting ready to post someone drops a grape right on his head.
My fave is KjSU from the old CU Rivals board. Fats will remember. Those guys were crazy mean back in Barnett's heyday.
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This ku team is better than the '08 squad
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This ku team is better than the '08 squad
I think so too. More NBA talent
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What's being lost is how much better they are without TC Sherron Collins. That guy is a complete POS. The way they fallated him at the end of last year was hilarious. How can a fanbase support a deadbeat dad, sex offender, who has to ride a bike every preseason because he ate himself out of his oversized bball shorts? What a bunch of white trash.
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The UK thing is :powerespect:
I do however refuse to use capital letters
KSU and ku
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Offensively we are better than last year. Defensively we are far worse.
Overall I am thinking wash. I just hope we don't run into an "Ali Farukamensch" in the tournament.
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Offensively we are better than last year. Defensively we are far worse.
Overall I am thinking wash. I just hope we don't run into an "Ali Farukamensch" in the tournament.
You guys will be better in the NCAA's this year.
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Cole= Huge loss
Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
Collins= replaced adequately
Henry= ditto
Robinson= improved
overall the only diff is Cole who was tremendous on help defense, changing and blocking shots, rebounding, getting dumped down to for easy dunks, and missing teeth.
I don't know about this year, but last year I think we win 2 out of 3 against them without Cole.
Now that I reflect, we win 1 of 2 or 2 of 3 against them this year. :comehere:
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Cole= Huge loss
Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
Collins= replaced adequately
Henry= ditto
Robinson= improved
overall the only diff is Cole who was tremendous on help defense, changing and blocking shots, rebounding, getting dumped down to for easy dunks, and missing teeth.
I don't know about this year, but last year I think we win 2 out of 3 against them without Cole.
Now that I reflect, we win 1 of 2 or 2 of 3 against them this year. :comehere:
Losing Cole and Sherron turned out to be addition by subtraction. One was weak-willed and the other too bull-headed. Neither could provide the leadership necessary.
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Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
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Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
While the above is way to simplistic, I haven't seen the explosive moves to the basket out of Selby that I was expecting considering his ranking and the Kylie Irving, John Wall comparos. Granted I had to watch the USC game on my phone and only stayed up to watch the first half of the Cal game but I have seen more of X. Henry type of play out of Selby than the guys above.
Hawk fans, is Selby what you expected?
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They're extremely vulnerable to post offense without Cole. Their other bigs are risk takers on defense and had Cole back there to still be a presence if someone got by them. Without him back there, they are being exposed. This was a huge reason for the Arizona and UCLA games being so close. I didn't get to see the Cal game though.
Offensively, I think they are way better than last year.
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Their 'bows look significantly improved over last year.
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Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
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You are not scoring more points now that you have selby. The points have been redistributed. This is bad for you because Marcus has seen his production go down. I much prefer my
all-american forward to produce in and out of the lane drawing fouls, than pin my hopes on a freshman from the 3 pt. line.
nice diagram though, keep up the good work :nerd:
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This ku team is better than the '08 squad
No. That was ku's best team ever.
Chalmers, Rush, Robinson, FR. Collins >>>> Selby, Taylor, Johnson, Reed
Kaun, Jackson, Arthur, FR. Aldrich >>>> Morris x2, Robinson, Withey
Selby is the only current KU guard that even sniffs the court on the 08 team.
Also, more NBA talent? Everyone on that team outside of Robinson and Rodrick Stewart (who didn't even play) has done time in the league.
2010-11 KU may be deeper, but they would get run by the 08 squad. It woudln't be close 7 game series and 11 might win one game.
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Selby= no big deal they already had 5 different guys that could hit a three.
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You are not scoring more points now that you have selby. The points have been redistributed. This is bad for you because Marcus has seen his production go down. I much prefer my
all-american forward to produce in and out of the lane drawing fouls, than pin my hopes on a freshman from the 3 pt. line.
nice diagram though, keep up the good work :nerd:
you're off on this one, gatos locos
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definitively no. kansas has played 2 teams that even attempt defense (zona/usc) and barely won. kansas' offensive numbers ridiculously skewed. they are in for a giant shock when they go to nebraska. also, the teams kansas has played that had any decent talent had their way scoring inside and rebounded pretty good too. kansas has a lot to prove to me.
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I second this. Predicted here USC would come back at them in the 2nd half because of their inside game. Post players are good but stubby armed (McMorons) or short (Robinson).
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/20726/bill-self-unhappy-kus-blowout-plan-revealed
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Math is hard
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/20726/bill-self-unhappy-kus-blowout-plan-revealed
I really like both Leung's and Brennan's work. Solid writers. <---- Dream Job
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/20726/bill-self-unhappy-kus-blowout-plan-revealed
What a rough ridin' pussy. :lol: I do calculus all the time while on the treadmill at the gym
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I second this. Predicted here USC would come back at them in the 2nd half because of their inside game. Post players are good but stubby armed (McMorons) or short (Robinson).
:facepalm:
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We did fine, but they should have never said that to you. As a matter of fact, it pisses me off that they did, so next question."
Self was just trying to be a hard-ass to impress Frank.
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Uk's teams are full of primadonas year in and out so its not like they'll make a run come march anyway (see last year)
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Aldrich is a huge loss.
Marcus Mongoloid, by all accounts, is much improved at inside play, may help offset loss of Aldrich.
Morningstar has not produced an inspirational DUI arrest yet this year.
No fellating press coverage of how much Self is enjoying coaching this team.
TIA.
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Selby sucks and they get pounded on the glass without Cole.................like I said.
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This thread is kind of interesting in hindsight. Some of you are so stupid pffft. :gocho:
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Offensively we are better than last year. Defensively we are far worse.
Overall I am thinking wash. I just hope we don't run into an "Ali Farukamensch" in the tournament.
You guys will be better in the NCAA's this year.
How could they not? That's the problem with using the NCAA's a measuring stick for KU. 2008 was not close to their most talented team in the last decade but look what happened.
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Offensively we are better than last year. Defensively we are far worse.
Overall I am thinking wash. I just hope we don't run into an "Ali Farukamensch" in the tournament.
You guys will be better in the NCAA's this year.
How could they not? That's the problem with using the NCAA's a measuring stick for KU. 2008 was not close to their most talented team in the last decade but look what happened.
pretty close. It had 4 nba players on roster, I don't think roys last team had that
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Offensively we are better than last year. Defensively we are far worse.
Overall I am thinking wash. I just hope we don't run into an "Ali Farukamensch" in the tournament.
You guys will be better in the NCAA's this year.
How could they not? That's the problem with using the NCAA's a measuring stick for KU. 2008 was not close to their most talented team in the last decade but look what happened.
pretty close. It had 4 nba players on roster, I don't think roys last team had that
Didn't they have five players drafted that year? Rush, Arthur, Chalmers, Jackson and Kaun?
That's not even including Aldrich, who played well for them in that tournament or Sherron who has played in 19 games for the Bobcats this season averaging all of .9 ppg.
2008's team was definitely one of their better teams.
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Thats all real interesting guys, maybe you should start a thread comparing 08 to other seasons? :flush: