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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Pete on December 05, 2010, 06:37:57 PM
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WRSOAT :ck:
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I bet Tuggle dcommits too.
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why is kennard gone?
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Stop being a drama queen, Pete. Like we need to recruit good players.
:powerespect:
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why is kennard gone?
This week's tapes of Billy's practice got lost in the mail.
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Just out of curiousity, what was the word of mouth source about Kennard's decommit? I just read a quote, no source...
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4 YEARS OF SAMS AS STARTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid: :emawkid:
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well if it's now an open scholly use it on rough ridin' defense. Tired of slow converted offensive players (that were afraid of contact) leading our defense.
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well if it's now an open scholly use it on rough ridin' defense. Tired of slow converted offensive players (that were afraid of contact) leading our defense.
Yeah, wide receiver is a pretty easy position to fill. The problem is that we won't just go out and get a good defensive player that we just didn't have a scholarship for before.
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why is kennard gone?
This week's tapes of Billy's practice got lost in the mail.
Or he got them and now some other team's gonna have our practice tapes!! :runaway:
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why is kennard gone?
This week's tapes of Billy's practice got lost in the mail.
Or he got them and now some other team's gonna have our practice tapes!! :runaway:
Classic backfire. Coaches around the conference are no doubt breaking down Billy's flaws.
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why is kennard gone?
This week's tapes of Billy's practice got lost in the mail.
Or he got them and now some other team's gonna have our practice tapes!! :runaway:
Classic backfire. Coaches around the conference are no doubt breaking down Billy's flaws.
Maybe Papa Cosh asked for them back today. :dunno:
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Really need a guy who will 40 hours of A in order to get on campus . . .
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Give me guys who WANT to be here.
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Whatever. Maybe you've heard of a guy I like to call Jordy Nelson.
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I'm sure he'll miss the 1 or 2 passes that would have been thrown his way next year.
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Wow, can't believe this crap hasn't happened yet. FP, TC, etc.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our fracking coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Webb is leaps and bounds better than Coffman. I'm pretty sure almost every KSU fan this year would have taken Webb over Coffman.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
I'm pretty sure almost every KSU fan this year would have taken Webb over Coffman.
Kennard wouldn't.
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I don't see why we really have anything to worry about. I mean, all of these season ending leg injuries to our wide receivers aren't a big deal. These things heal up 110% all of the time, and they'll be back to better than 100% next season.
Sincerely,
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Dunn was a 5 star recruit. Cosh not a 5 star.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Dunn was a 5 star recruit. Cosh not a 5 star.
Dunn would have been very serviceable, if not good, in the right kind of system.
However, he couldn't have picked a worse one to be in than ours. We completely wasted a pretty talented kid. He would have thrived in an offensive scheme like OSU runs right now.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Dunn was a 5 star recruit. Cosh not a 5 star.
Dunn would have been very serviceable, if not good, in the right kind of system.
However, he couldn't have picked a worse one to be in than ours. We completely wasted a pretty talented kid. He would have thrived in an offensive scheme like OSU runs right now.
Dunn should have never chosen KSU...poor bastard was just pounded into the ground here.
Hey Billy Cosh, you just set the Maryland state passing record, what are you going to do now? "I'm going to separate both of my shoulders running dive after dive at KSU!"
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Dunn was a 5 star recruit. Cosh not a 5 star.
Dunn would have been very serviceable, if not good, in the right kind of system.
However, he couldn't have picked a worse one to be in than ours. We completely wasted a pretty talented kid. He would have thrived in an offensive scheme like OSU runs right now.
Dunn should have never chosen KSU...poor bastard was just pounded into the ground here.
Hey Billy Cosh, you just set the Maryland state passing record, what are you going to do now? "I'm going to separate both of my shoulders running dive after dive at KSU!"
WOW! Finally this gets out! I told fans this over the years of watching OB coached QB's... he is hard on QB's.
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Tuggle is a huge upgrade from Coffman. Please, just stfu.
Your standard are pretty low, friend. Pretty low indeed.
And your's are pretty high. LHC Bill Snyder is our shazbot!ing coach. We aren't going to get 4 or 5 star QB's.
Tuggle and Cosh = Webb and Dunn.
Dunn was a 5 star recruit. Cosh not a 5 star.
Dunn would have been very serviceable, if not good, in the right kind of system.
However, he couldn't have picked a worse one to be in than ours. We completely wasted a pretty talented kid. He would have thrived in an offensive scheme like OSU runs right now.
Dunn should have never chosen KSU...poor bastard was just pounded into the ground here.
Hey Billy Cosh, you just set the Maryland state passing record, what are you going to do now? "I'm going to separate both of my shoulders running dive after dive at KSU!"
WOW! Finally this gets out! I told fans this over the years of watching OB coached QB's... he is hard on QB's.
iknowrite!
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Have you watched our team play the last 5 years??? We're probably the only team in D-1 football that actually needs another JUCO DT more than an NFL WR.
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Mods, please rename this thread: "Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) breeding ground.". TIA.
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We could have had Randy Moss on the team this year and it wouldn't have translated to another win. Elite wide receivers make good teams great, but they don't do much for bad teams. This is really not a big loss. Kennard made the right choice.
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Have you watched our team play the last 5 years??? We're probably the only team in D-1 football that actually needs another JUCO DT more than an NFL WR.
It's not an either/or scenario. Only retards trying to rationalize OB's piss poor recruiting think it is.
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Wow, looks like we narrowly avoided a TC infecting our program. Good riddance, Kenntard!
To be flat out honest, and granted he didn't get a lot of looks today and he was playing a very good defense that eventually won the JUCO Championship this afternoon, I wasn't overly impressed with Marcus.
He lacks big burst off the line and doesn't necessarily blow by corners. He misread a few passes from Mettenberger too.
Most troubling was his attitude- flagged on a 3rd and goal for pushing his defender square in the chest after a ball sailed over his head and also blatantly walking out on the field during the final 30 seconds of play, standing at the hash marks, staring at the opposing sideline shaking his head. All this after he spiked his helmet and tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
Hey, I get it- you're upset you lost the championship. But wow, didn't look like a Snyder fit, emotionally speaking.
If he doesn't end up in purple, is it a shame? Yes because the talent is there and KSU saw that before anyone else. But by no means do fans need to lose sleep over a player I get the feeling many believe to be some type of Larry Fitzgerald.
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tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
:love:
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Marcus Kennard will visit Georgia Wednesday, Texas TEch on Friday and Oklahoma State on Monday.
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Marcus Kennard will visit Georgia Wednesday, Texas TEch on Friday and Oklahoma State on Monday.
Yeah, we don't need him.
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Marcus Kennard will visit Georgia Wednesday, Texas TEch on Friday and Oklahoma State on Monday.
Rooting like hell for Georgia here.
:ksu: (But with the stolen Green Bay logo in black and red)
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Wow, looks like we narrowly avoided a TC infecting our program. Good riddance, Kenntard!
To be flat out honest, and granted he didn't get a lot of looks today and he was playing a very good defense that eventually won the JUCO Championship this afternoon, I wasn't overly impressed with Marcus.
He lacks big burst off the line and doesn't necessarily blow by corners. He misread a few passes from Mettenberger too.
Most troubling was his attitude- flagged on a 3rd and goal for pushing his defender square in the chest after a ball sailed over his head and also blatantly walking out on the field during the final 30 seconds of play, standing at the hash marks, staring at the opposing sideline shaking his head. All this after he spiked his helmet and tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
Hey, I get it- you're upset you lost the championship. But wow, didn't look like a Snyder fit, emotionally speaking.
If he doesn't end up in purple, is it a shame? Yes because the talent is there and KSU saw that before anyone else. But by no means do fans need to lose sleep over a player I get the feeling many believe to be some type of Larry Fitzgerald.
Really sounds like the kind of wide receiver that can thrive under Mike Gundy, IMO.
I really look forward to our deep and talented secondary defending him on every play.
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Wow, looks like we narrowly avoided a TC infecting our program. Good riddance, Kenntard!
To be flat out honest, and granted he didn't get a lot of looks today and he was playing a very good defense that eventually won the JUCO Championship this afternoon, I wasn't overly impressed with Marcus.
He lacks big burst off the line and doesn't necessarily blow by corners. He misread a few passes from Mettenberger too.
Most troubling was his attitude- flagged on a 3rd and goal for pushing his defender square in the chest after a ball sailed over his head and also blatantly walking out on the field during the final 30 seconds of play, standing at the hash marks, staring at the opposing sideline shaking his head. All this after he spiked his helmet and tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
Hey, I get it- you're upset you lost the championship. But wow, didn't look like a Snyder fit, emotionally speaking.
If he doesn't end up in purple, is it a shame? Yes because the talent is there and KSU saw that before anyone else. But by no means do fans need to lose sleep over a player I get the feeling many believe to be some type of Larry Fitzgerald.
Really sounds like the kind of wide receiver that can thrive under Mike Gundy, IMO.
I really look forward to our deep and talented secondary defending him on every play.
It was only time before the "he sucks", "no big loss" post rationalization would start to defend another major Snyder recruiting failure.
It's like a tard rite of passage.
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Wow, looks like we narrowly avoided a TC infecting our program. Good riddance, Kenntard!
To be flat out honest, and granted he didn't get a lot of looks today and he was playing a very good defense that eventually won the JUCO Championship this afternoon, I wasn't overly impressed with Marcus.
He lacks big burst off the line and doesn't necessarily blow by corners. He misread a few passes from Mettenberger too.
Most troubling was his attitude- flagged on a 3rd and goal for pushing his defender square in the chest after a ball sailed over his head and also blatantly walking out on the field during the final 30 seconds of play, standing at the hash marks, staring at the opposing sideline shaking his head. All this after he spiked his helmet and tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
Hey, I get it- you're upset you lost the championship. But wow, didn't look like a Snyder fit, emotionally speaking.
If he doesn't end up in purple, is it a shame? Yes because the talent is there and KSU saw that before anyone else. But by no means do fans need to lose sleep over a player I get the feeling many believe to be some type of Larry Fitzgerald.
Really sounds like the kind of wide receiver that can thrive under Mike Gundy, IMO.
I really look forward to our deep and talented secondary defending him on every play.
It was only time before the "he sucks", "no big loss" post rationalization would start to defend another major Snyder recruiting failure.
It's like a tard rite of passage.
Does the gpc staff count as rationalizing tards?
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Wow, looks like we narrowly avoided a TC infecting our program. Good riddance, Kenntard!
To be flat out honest, and granted he didn't get a lot of looks today and he was playing a very good defense that eventually won the JUCO Championship this afternoon, I wasn't overly impressed with Marcus.
He lacks big burst off the line and doesn't necessarily blow by corners. He misread a few passes from Mettenberger too.
Most troubling was his attitude- flagged on a 3rd and goal for pushing his defender square in the chest after a ball sailed over his head and also blatantly walking out on the field during the final 30 seconds of play, standing at the hash marks, staring at the opposing sideline shaking his head. All this after he spiked his helmet and tossed the kicker's net down on the sideline.
Hey, I get it- you're upset you lost the championship. But wow, didn't look like a Snyder fit, emotionally speaking.
If he doesn't end up in purple, is it a shame? Yes because the talent is there and KSU saw that before anyone else. But by no means do fans need to lose sleep over a player I get the feeling many believe to be some type of Larry Fitzgerald.
Really sounds like the kind of wide receiver that can thrive under Mike Gundy, IMO.
I really look forward to our deep and talented secondary defending him on every play.
It was only time before the "he sucks", "no big loss" post rationalization would start to defend another major Snyder recruiting failure.
It's like a tard rite of passage.
Does the gpc staff count as rationalizing tards?
gpc staff is the dad in the "i learned it from watching you" afterschool anti drug commercial.
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You literally cannot make this stuff up.
THEY'VE TURNED!
He sounds like the college version of pro players Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, and that crazy dude from Cincinnati (Ochochino?). He seems to be a hot head and wants all the balls thrown his way...ie, the offense revolves around him or he pouts. Sure he has talent. But it looks like he has an attitude problem that comes with it...a package deal. He's gone. TNB
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You literally cannot make this stuff up.
THEY'VE TURNED!
He sounds like the college version of pro players Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, and that crazy dude from Cincinnati (Ochochino?). He seems to be a hot head and wants all the balls thrown his way...ie, the offense revolves around him or he pouts. Sure he has talent. But it looks like he has an attitude problem that comes with it...a package deal. He's gone. TNB
:lol:
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You literally cannot make this stuff up.
THEY'VE TURNED!
He sounds like the college version of pro players Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, and that crazy dude from Cincinnati (Ochochino?). He seems to be a hot head and wants all the balls thrown his way...ie, the offense revolves around him or he pouts. Sure he has talent. But it looks like he has an attitude problem that comes with it...a package deal. He's gone. TNB
The common denominator between all of those guys? Immense talent.
Look, I want Kennard because in the grand scheme of things, his biggest talent is stretching the field and catching the deep ball, regardless of how it's thrown. Is he Justin Blackmon? No. Is he Dez Bryant? No. However, he is the kind of guy that you can toss out in the slot, run a post route against safety coverage, chuck up a jump ball and get a 30 yard gain. 6'4" guys with good speed and great hands don't grow on trees.
When KU's offense was humming under Reesing, this is what they did. Go get tall kids with decent speed that could catch a jump ball in one-on-one coverage. He would have given us three guys that could do that on the field at the same time (Smith, Kennard, and Harper). It would have made the offense very difficult to stop because you could, at most, put six or seven in the box because you'd have to invest a man in one-on-one coverage with safety help over the top because of how good he is at catching the deep jump ball. That would have been great because the traditional Snyder offense, and what we'll end up running with Tuggle (most likely) is chucking up a lot of deep balls that the WR needs to go up and get to keep the safeties off of the LOS so we can use an athletic QB to gash them in the running game.
This staff better hope Torrell Miller is now that guy because Tremaine Thompson doesn't give us this same weapon.
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You literally cannot make this stuff up.
THEY'VE TURNED!
He sounds like the college version of pro players Terrel Owens, Randy Moss, and that crazy dude from Cincinnati (Ochochino?). He seems to be a hot head and wants all the balls thrown his way...ie, the offense revolves around him or he pouts. Sure he has talent. But it looks like he has an attitude problem that comes with it...a package deal. He's gone. TNB
Don't do that. Don't quote Bate and pretend like he represents that board. Look, that board has turned into a raging dumpster fire over the past few years, but even all the tardiest Powertards know Bate's off his rocker.
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Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
Have you watched our team play the last 5 years??? We're probably the only team in D-1 football that actually needs another JUCO DT more than an NFL WR.
It's not an either/or scenario. Only retards trying to rationalize OB's piss poor recruiting think it is.
you're thought process, not mine
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
For some reason they have become mutually exclusive to one another. Not sure why.
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Losing Kennard isn't the biggest loss, I mean, we don't throw the ball anyways. No, our problem comes from our offensive scheme. High schools and even junior highs don't just run the ball like they did 10, 20 years ago. The whole football world has become much more 'pro' offense scheme, or spread. If we want to continue to run the offense we are in, we'll have to expect ELITE LEVEL running backs, because no reciever worth a major D1 scholarship will come here. No, this offense, other than in certain game situations, is no longer a threat to win big games.
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Losing Kennard isn't the biggest loss, I mean, we don't throw the ball anyways. No, our problem comes from our offensive scheme. High schools and even junior highs don't just run the ball like they did 10, 20 years ago. The whole football world has become much more 'pro' offense scheme, or spread. If we want to continue to run the offense we are in, we'll have to expect ELITE LEVEL running backs, because no reciever worth a major D1 scholarship will come here. No, this offense, other than in certain game situations, is no longer a threat to win big games.
We don't throw the ball because we didn't have a single D-1 quarterback on the roster this year. This isn't by design. This is a compensatory measure for have a coaching staff that can't recruit a QB worth a crap.
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
For some reason they have become mutually exclusive to one another. Not sure why.
You have to treat WRSOAT like you would a jt . . . helmet and harness and all. So you can't give them to many things to accomplish.
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Seriously, as long as the coaching staff gets Sams, I'm fine with this class. It's not that great, but it's much better than I ever though OB 2.0 would assemble.
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Losing Kennard isn't the biggest loss, I mean, we don't throw the ball anyways. No, our problem comes from our offensive scheme. High schools and even junior highs don't just run the ball like they did 10, 20 years ago. The whole football world has become much more 'pro' offense scheme, or spread. If we want to continue to run the offense we are in, we'll have to expect ELITE LEVEL running backs, because no reciever worth a major D1 scholarship will come here. No, this offense, other than in certain game situations, is no longer a threat to win big games.
We don't throw the ball because we didn't have a single D-1 quarterback on the roster this year. This isn't by design. This is a compensatory measure for have a coaching staff that can't recruit a QB worth a cac.
QFT. Snyder loves throwing the deep ball. Loves it. He loves huge YPC and stretching the defense because it forces the defense to stay honest and off of the LOS so his QB's can have room to run. Give him 50% completion percentage if YPC is high, and he's as happy as a pig in cac.
Spread with three wide, and that's most likely both corners, a safety manned up on the slot, and a safety in cover 1. That leaves, at most, seven in the box. Send a TE in the formation, and all of a sudden, poof goes a linebacker. Six in the box. Now, you have five linemen, one QB that can run, and a running back. You have a +1 advantage to run the football.
Or, even if you only go two wide and add a fullback, having the threat to toss the deep ball still commits a safety in cover one. If you still send the TE on a pattern, the linebacker goes, and now you have a fullback on a safety, and there's a still +1 advantage running the ball.
The problem this year is that Coffman had a weak arm, so there was no deep ball threat. He was also not a +1 threat to run the ball, so you could basically man up corners, use both safeties for run support, and you're still, as a defense, employing a numbers advantage between the tackles. It also didn't help that these receivers are not burners; they're possession guys with YAC skills.
Tuggle, while probably not Cam Newton, has a decent arm that can throw a deep ball, and he can run. We can run the traditional Snyder offense that he had when Beasley and Roberson were here. Kennard would have given us the deep ball threat because that's his specialty. Not having him takes away a really subtle, but important, component in making this a "true" Snyder offense.
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
For some reason they have become mutually exclusive to one another. Not sure why.
has the definition of mutually exclusive changed to neither occurrence being actualized?
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Winterz, did you message him? :ck:
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
For some reason they have become mutually exclusive to one another. Not sure why.
This may have helped start it
Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
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Here's when losing Kennard won't be a big deal . . . WHEN and only WHEN 2 very high quality Juco DT's sign on the line that is dotted, that will be in school and in camp ready to play football this fall . . . until that happens, it's a huge deal . . . and NO, 2 DT's that no one has ever heard of, that each show an offer from South Dakota School of the Mines, who need 48 hours of A in every core course under the sun just to get to campus do not count.
i guess i just have to wonder why the staff can't just keep kennard AND get a DT or two. doesn't seem like it should be an either/or thing.
For some reason they have become mutually exclusive to one another. Not sure why.
This may have helped start it
Yeah, game breaking wide receivers in the prototypical NFL mold are a dime a dozen. We're better off using the schollie on another fringe D1 JUCO DT.
This was the powerespect rationalization - I was just just repeating it. Sorry for the confusion.
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Looks like K-State has basically given up on Tuggle ever being good enough to get on the field for us. Not surprised.
The City College of San Francisco football program seems to churn out one DI quarterback after another these days and this season is no exception. The Rams' signal-caller is rated the No. 3 JUCO quarterback in the nation by JCGridiron.com and has a Big 12 offer heading into the national title game on Saturday.
Jantz has combined for 30 touchdowns passing and rushing in 2010
San Francisco quarterback Steele Jantz will show off his stuff on Saturday in the California state title game at Mt. San Antonio College and then he will get down to business of figuring out his future. Jantz received an offer from Iowa State last week and then immediately visited the Cyclones.
"I received an offer from Iowa State a week ago," Jantz said. "I went there last weekend."
Jantz is 6-foot-3, 205 pounds and fast, with a reported 40-time in the 4.5's. He graduated from Nevada Union High School (Calif.) in 2008 and went un-recruited due to an injury.
"I broke my leg my senior year," Jantz said.
Jantz then walked on at Hawaii in 2008, where he redshirted before heading to CCSF in 2009. After watching Darius Bell play at a high level for a season, Jantz then took over the reigns of the offense in 2010, guiding San Francisco to a 11-0 season heading into Saturday's game. He says he is waiting until after Saturday to concentrate on recruiting.
"My focus is 100% on the game this week," Jantz said. "I am waiting until after the game to make any decisions."
In addition to Iowa State, a handful of other programs have shown interest in recent weeks.
"I have talked to Kansas State, Louisiana Tech, UTEP and San Jose State," Jantz said. "They are all telling me they need a quarterback and they want me."
Jantz has thrown for 2,851 yards and 23 touchdowns through 11 games so far this season, but is equally talented at running the ball. He is second on the team with 613 yards rushing and leads the team with 14 rushing touchdowns.
Jantz is rated the No. 3 JUCO quarterback in the nation by JCGridiron.com. He can leave later this month with two years remaining eligibility.
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If we throw enough quarterbacks at our coaching staff, one of them has to turn out decent, right?
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Looks like K-State has basically given up on Tuggle ever being good enough to get on the field for us. Not surprised.
Here's video of Jantz. Also, bring them both in and move Lamur and Klien over to WR (again).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU)
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Looks like K-State has basically given up on Tuggle ever being good enough to get on the field for us. Not surprised.
Here's video of Jantz. Also, bring them both in and move Lamur and Klien over to WR (again).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU)
NEW CATS QB STEELE'S THE SHOW
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If we throw enough quarterbacks at our coaching staff, one of them has to turn out decent, right?
yeah; see "Picketts Charge" circa July 1863 to see how this strategy works.
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Looks like K-State has basically given up on Tuggle ever being good enough to get on the field for us. Not surprised.
Here's video of Jantz. Also, bring them both in and move Lamur and Klien over to WR (again).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkYlRY2M2IU)
I would cut Lamur and move Klein to WR.
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his shitty recruiting in.
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Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his shitty recruiting in.
love this
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his shitty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's shitty, oh well. If he actually gets his crap together, great.
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his shitty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's shitty, oh well. If he actually gets his crap together, great.
what if new non-crappy juco doesn't want to come in the same class that already includes secretly-crappy juco qb?
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his cacty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's cacty, oh well. If he actually gets his cac together, great.
This. I don't like losing football games...even if the principle behind it is a good one.
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his cacty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's cacty, oh well. If he actually gets his cac together, great.
what if new non-crappy juco doesn't want to come in the same class that already includes secretly-crappy juco qb?
Tell him we're moving him to WR.
Or, better yet, say, "Oh, him? Uh, don't worry about him. We're eventually going to move him to defense."
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What changed in their minds about Tuggle? Did he get even suckier than he was?? Just a panic scholarship offer by our part?
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his cacty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's cacty, oh well. If he actually gets his cac together, great.
what if new non-crappy juco doesn't want to come in the same class that already includes secretly-crappy juco qb?
Tell him we're moving him to WR.
Or, better yet, say, "Oh, him? Uh, don't worry about him. We're eventually going to move him to defense."
"You mean the new quarterback for the scout team?"
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What changed in their minds about Tuggle? Did he get even suckier than he was?? Just a panic scholarship offer by our part?
Maybe Bill caught him with Whitney.
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The plan should be to jetison Tuggle. Grumblings that the staff has serious buyers remorse and it's just the not wanting to piss off Blinn that has kept us from doing it already.
It's our own fault. Bill should have to sleep in the bed he did his cacty recruiting in.
it's not like we are short on schollies right? just bring his ass in, if he's cacty, oh well. If he actually gets his cac together, great.
This. I don't like losing football games...even if the principle behind it is a good one.
Yeah...I'm not on board with cutting our dick off to spite our old ballz.
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I would tell him that we go after a really good QB and one that we know we can get and that we could make due with. Tell Steele that he is the really good one we have targeted and that we already signed the "make due" guy. You could even lay it on thicker and tell him that signing a serviceable guy like Tuggs allows us to swing for the stars with guys like Steele.
Should play well to a good QB's ego.
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I would tell him that we go after a really good QB and one that we know we can get and that we could make due with. Tell Steele that he is the really good one we have targeted and that we already signed the "make due" guy. You could even lay it on thicker and tell him that signing a serviceable guy like Tuggs allows us to swing for the stars with guys like Steele.
Should play well to a good QB's ego.
If we have to lay it on thick to beat Iowa State and Louisiana Tech, then I rescind my previous statement and say we let Snyder just lose to the point where he wanders off or the mob carries him out of the stadium named after him.
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I would tell him that we go after a really good QB and one that we know we can get and that we could make due with. Tell Steele that he is the really good one we have targeted and that we already signed the "make due" guy. You could even lay it on thicker and tell him that signing a serviceable guy like Tuggs allows us to swing for the stars with guys like Steele.
Should play well to a good QB's ego.
If we have to lay it on thick to beat Iowa State and Louisiana Tech, then I rescind my previous statement and say we let Snyder just lose to the point where he wanders off or the mob carries him out of the stadium named after him.
Can we not have both? I really don't want extraordinarily shitty FB for the next few years until the avg tard figures this out.
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STEELE! :blush:
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STEELE! :blush:
omg. what a bro
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he's way too handsome for our ugly ass team
Walk-on to the basketball team?
:ck:
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OMG
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Would do.
Wait...hold the phone. There's something about this kid that makes me nervous. He just doesn't look like all the other great QB's we've had.
Oh...got it...it's the hair.
No...not the hair. Well...maybe kind of the hair...
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OMG
i know, right? :love:
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
:horrorsurprise:
Too soon, dood. Too rough ridin' soon.
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
:horrorsurprise:
Too soon, dood. Too rough ridin' soon.
You're new around here aren't you?
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How is this place turning into tard nation after such a short period of time. Making fun of dead people is what this place does.
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he's way too handsome for our ugly ass team
This.
Guys, I don't think KSU houses the quantity of quality poon that a guy like this needs to survive.
We just don't stock that much of it.
Our only real hope is for him to commit without a visit.
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he's way too handsome for our ugly ass team
This.
Guys, I don't think KSU houses the quantity of quality poon that a guy like this needs to survive.
We just don't stock that much of it.
Our only real hope is for him to commit without a visit.
Maybe he's into big girls?
He could just dive on in and swim in a sea of Classy Cats that spend pre and post games at Chipotle.
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Missssster Haaaaaand. Yuah.
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What changed in their minds about Tuggle? Did he get even suckier than he was?? Just a panic scholarship offer by our part?
They think Tuggle is inaccurate AND afraid of contact. Typically, we have one or the other, not both. Both is bad.
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he's way too handsome for our ugly ass team
This.
Guys, I don't think KSU houses the quantity of quality poon that a guy like this needs to survive.
We just don't stock that much of it.
Our only real hope is for him to commit without a visit.
Maybe he's into big girls?
He could just dive on in and swim in a sea of Classy Cats that spend pre and post games at Chipotle.
This would be ideal for us.
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What changed in their minds about Tuggle? Did he get even suckier than he was?? Just a panic scholarship offer by our part?
They think Tuggle is inaccurate AND afraid of contact. Typically, we have one or the other, not both. Both is bad.
Fantastic. A car without a motor AND a transmission.
We may as well put this offense on some cinder blocks and just put it out in the North lot.
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What changed in their minds about Tuggle? Did he get even suckier than he was?? Just a panic scholarship offer by our part?
They think Tuggle is inaccurate AND afraid of contact. Typically, we have one or the other, not both. Both is bad.
Fantastic. A car without a motor AND a transmission.
We may as well put this offense on some cinder blocks and just put it out in the North lot.
Shouldn't we have known about the whole inaccurate thing right off the batt?
I guess a guy can be very well protected by a great line during recruiting and therefore not show his FP side, but no way we should not be seeing the inaccurate side.
Did we actually have anyone go watch any of his games?
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I have no idea what happened during the evaluation of Tuggle. All I know is that the staff does think that he’s poop now. Let’s not be too shocked about it…this is the same group of idiots that didn’t have Josh Freeman on their radar screen (i.e. Del and Bill).
I wish that it weren’t true, but Tuggle is poop.
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Billy AIR Cosh will start next year.
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Billy AIR Cosh will start next year.
I have no doubt
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Is there any doubt?
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
Go eff yourself OK_Cat
Hope your family members die of cancer you eff
You gotta admit, OK cat is good at what he does.
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
Go eff yourself OK_Cat
Hope your family members die of cancer you eff
You gotta admit, OK cat is good at what he does.
BITB, IMO
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the last white qb we had with hair like that was a mountain climber.
stay away from mountains, steele! :ohno:
Go eff yourself OK_Cat
Hope your family members die of cancer you eff
You gotta admit, OK cat is good at what he does.
Yes, and John Wayne Gacy was good at what he did as well.....
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Tommy Tubs grabs another one....
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Tommy Tubs grabs another one....
In your face, Chings....
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Two programs that will go in opposite directions. TT on the downside with Tuberville. KState WILL continue to get better.
How many fewer times did TT chunk the ball this year compared to last year? About 20% fewer in 2010. Will go down by another 20% next year. TT moving towards a running game.
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Tommy Tubs grabs another one....
In your face, Chings....
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Two programs that will go in opposite directions. TT on the downside with Tuberville. KState WILL continue to get better.
How many fewer times did TT chunk the ball this year compared to last year? About 20% fewer in 2010. Will go down by another 20% next year. TT moving towards a running game.
:lol: what an idiot. TT is going to recruit far better than Leach ever did.
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I talked to a friend that goes to Butler. When at the National Championship game he talked to one of the K-State coaches that was there for recruiting and he said that when our coaches went down to watch Tuggle they came away very worried. I guess our recruitment of Tuggle was only off of his stats and they didn't go see him play until after his commitment.
The coach said,
"He is a lot further away from what we thought he had, we are a little worried that he might not be ready to make that transition to D1 football".
I asked if he knew who the coach was but he didn't. Only said he had brown hair and was wearing a KSU Jacket.
Not sure how much is true but I trust my friend, This Kind of scares me if true.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=140005476&sid=889&tid=140005476&style=1
:users:
We told you fuckers. We rough ridin' told you.
And LOL at the "That's not how LHC Bill Snyder works." :lol:
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I talked to a friend that goes to Butler. When at the National Championship game he talked to one of the K-State coaches that was there for recruiting and he said that when our coaches went down to watch Tuggle they came away very worried. I guess our recruitment of Tuggle was only off of his stats and they didn't go see him play until after his commitment.
The coach said,
"He is a lot further away from what we thought he had, we are a little worried that he might not be ready to make that transition to D1 football".
I asked if he knew who the coach was but he didn't. Only said he had brown hair and was wearing a KSU Jacket.
Not sure how much is true but I trust my friend, This Kind of scares me if true.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=140005476&sid=889&tid=140005476&style=1
:users:
We told you fuckers. We rough ridin' told you.
And LOL at the "That's not how LHC Bill Snyder works." :lol:
It would be elite to start wearing KSU jackets to these events and tell the tards that you are a coach.
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I talked to a friend that goes to Butler. When at the National Championship game he talked to one of the K-State coaches that was there for recruiting and he said that when our coaches went down to watch Tuggle they came away very worried. I guess our recruitment of Tuggle was only off of his stats and they didn't go see him play until after his commitment.
The coach said,
"He is a lot further away from what we thought he had, we are a little worried that he might not be ready to make that transition to D1 football".
I asked if he knew who the coach was but he didn't. Only said he had brown hair and was wearing a KSU Jacket.
Not sure how much is true but I trust my friend, This Kind of scares me if true.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=140005476&sid=889&tid=140005476&style=1
:users:
We told you fuckers. We rough ridin' told you.
And LOL at the "That's not how LHC Bill Snyder works." :lol:
This guy's being subjected to good 'ole fashion :powerespect: lynching. :blindfold:
In all seriousness though, I'm not saying the staff isn't having buyer's remorse on Tuggle, but this smells like some serious :bs: I refuse to believe that a K-State coach would be throwing a committed recruit under the bus to a pimple faced JuCo student he didn't even know.
I asked if he knew who the coach was but he didn't. Only said he had brown hair and was wearing a KSU Jacket.
Gimme a fuckin break. This seems more like a 'tard stirring up crap for attention. :runaway:
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STEELE! :blush:
Aaaaaaand he's now committed to Iowa State. :runaway:
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'grats Havs.
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Jesus Christ football is getting me depressed.
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I hope we're not spending much money for this WRSOAT effort.
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This guy's being subjected to good 'ole fashion :powerespect: lynching. :blindfold:
In all seriousness though, I'm not saying the staff isn't having buyer's remorse on Tuggle, but this smells like some serious :bs: I refuse to believe that a K-State coach would be throwing a committed recruit under the bus to a pimple faced JuCo student he didn't even know.
I asked if he knew who the coach was but he didn't. Only said he had brown hair and was wearing a KSU Jacket.
Gimme a effin break. This seems more like a 'tard stirring up cac for attention. :runaway:
Here's the thing...sure, there are likely some BS anecdotes out there, but where we learned of this were comments directly from staff. I 100% believe it.
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This makes me want to rough ridin' vomit...
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The most encouraging thing for me is that the staff seems to have put almost all of their eggs in the Tuggle/Sams basket.
I don't want to go through another situation like we were dealing with just prior to Snyder's departure, with four QBs on the roster who started games at three different D-1 schools. I'd like to focus on developing these two guys as THE guys for the next five years.
HEY DUMBASS, THEY ARE rough ridin' THIS UP!
Honestly, why the eff should this be a surprise given the recruiting that Snyder has produced since 2003 (and actually earlier).
JESUS rough ridin' CHRIST...It's like you see the train headed for the stalled mini-van full of kids, and you are flailing your arms and screaming, but the rough ridin' engineer is giving you the thumbs up and and smiling at you.
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Plane banner time yet?
IMO a WRSOAT banner would be ideal to start off.
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This makes me want to effing vomit...
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The most encouraging thing for me is that the staff seems to have put almost all of their eggs in the Tuggle/Sams basket.
I don't want to go through another situation like we were dealing with just prior to Snyder's departure, with four QBs on the roster who started games at three different D-1 schools. I'd like to focus on developing these two guys as THE guys for the next five years.
HEY DUMBASS, THEY ARE effING THIS UP!
Honestly, why the eff should this be a surprise given the recruiting that Snyder has produced since 2003 (and actually earlier).
JESUS effING CHRIST...It's like you see the train headed for the stalled mini-van full of kids, and you are flailing your arms and screaming, but the effing engineer is giving you the thumbs up and and smiling at you.
Well put, Pete. Well put.
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The most encouraging thing for me is that the staff seems to have put almost all of their eggs in the Tuggle/Sams basket.
I don't want to go through another situation like we were dealing with just prior to Snyder's departure, with four QBs on the roster who started games at three different D-1 schools. I'd like to focus on developing these two guys as THE guys for the next five years.
HEY DUMBASS, THEY ARE rough ridin' THIS UP!
Honestly, why the eff should this be a surprise given the recruiting that Snyder has produced since 2003 (and actually earlier).
JESUS rough ridin' CHRIST...It's like you see the train headed for the stalled mini-van full of kids, and you are flailing your arms and screaming, but the rough ridin' engineer is giving you the thumbs up and and smiling at you.
What do you expect, most of those tards think we are 2 or 3 players away from more consecutive 10 win seasons, and BClay is the largest pile of crap of them all.
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This makes me want to rough ridin' vomit...
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The most encouraging thing for me is that the staff seems to have put almost all of their eggs in the Tuggle/Sams basket.
you can imagine how disappointed he is that the bball staff continues to recruit quality players.
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STEELE! :blush:
Aaaaaaand he's now committed to Iowa State. :runaway:
aaaaaannd he's now the starter at Iowa State. :shakesfist:
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STEELE! :blush:
Aaaaaaand he's now committed to Iowa State. :runaway:
aaaaaannd he's now the starter at Iowa State. :shakesfist:
Be fair, dude. That's like saying you've really impressed the folks at McDonalds in your first year, and you just got promoted to head fry guy.