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if so, why? :frown:
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Pullz believing his headlines, FT = yikes, killer instinct gone.....
yet nobody I know has.
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i just don't think i can support a team that doesn't make their free throws :ck:
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killer instinct gone..... dormant
FYP
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Pullz believing his headlines, FT = yikes, killer instinct gone.....
yet nobody I know has.
1 bad game? Seems harsh.
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if so, why? :frown:
Very hard hitting question. You pull no punches.
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I'm allergic to cats :frown:
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Ranked behind KU. :runaway:
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killer instinct gone.....
Was our killer instinct gone in the VaTech or Gonzaga games???
It's concerning that we're playing down to our competition, but against good opponents, we've played exceedingly well. Even against Duke, if we shoot 65%+ FT and Pullen isn't ice cold, that's a 5 point game.
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Pullz believing his headlines, FT = yikes, killer instinct gone.....
yet nobody I know has.
i just don't think i can support a team that doesn't make their free throws :ck:
:facepalm: I swear to god....
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I think expectations got a little too high for early season but I think eventually this team will be as good as expected. It'll take some time and everyone should have anticipated some bumps in the road and inconsistent play early. They'll make some serious strides this month as a team, mark it.
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:facepalm: I swear to god....
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sweet 16 team.
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not just yet. but i have to admit, i'm teetering on the brink. this friday could push me either way for good.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
yeah, denis was the key player last year, not "fear the beard" :facepalm:
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
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if so, why? :frown:
no :horrorsurprise:
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could it be any more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than to predict what round of the tournament any team will exit?
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we are who I thought we were. Pretty much each game, outside of Presby, has gotten exactly like I thought it would.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
yep. rodkey and the boys are going to help open the door to a beautiful new year filled with basketball wins and final four wishes. go cats.
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i expect patterns and trends to remain constant. i expect KU to win the conference outright or tie w/ UT or Baylor.
in my mind's eye a year like last year would be phenomenal. winning the Big 12 would exceed my expectations.
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december has traditionally been frank's month.
interesting to see how the different cultures do things. for example, in the sys household we celebrate frank in january. vive la difference, eh.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh crap" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
i don't think you make sense.
i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh crap" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
i'm not sure your point but i've pointed that out too, do i get a kougs cookie?
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
i don't think you make sense.
i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh cac" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
i'm not sure your point but i've pointed that out too, do i get a kougs cookie?
clams,
what did you think about my "rodkey opening the door..." comment? clever play on words, no?
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
i don't think you make sense.
i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh cac" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
i'm not sure your point but i've pointed that out too, do i get a kougs cookie?
I only listen to _FAN, so no.
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more. I expected Wally to be better, he’s not (go compare him to Thomas Robinson – it’s really not even a comparison). I expected Curtis (and Jamar to a certain extent) to…well…play and they hadn’t for a number of games. I thought our defense would be better than it is – I thought it would be dominating from the start, not “similar” to the start of last year. I thought Freddy would be more aggressive, he’s not (I mean, jfc, he pumped faked – against emporia state - on a runout and then laid the ball in).
And I expected all this because I thought we had enough talent and experience returning that there wouldn’t be these hurdles to overcome….essentially our starting point would be different. Maybe I expected too much.
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more. I expected Wally to be better, he’s not (go compare him to Thomas Robinson – it’s really not even a comparison). I expected Curtis (and Jamar to a certain extent) to…well…play and they hadn’t for a number of games. I thought our defense would be better than it is – I thought it would be dominating from the start, not “similar” to the start of last year. I thought Freddy would be more aggressive, he’s not (I mean, jfc, he pumped faked – against emporia state - on a runout and then laid the ball in).
And I expected all this because I thought we had enough talent and experience returning that there wouldn’t be these hurdles to overcome….essentially our starting point would be different. Maybe I expected too much.
So we're better now than our Elite 8 team was a year ago at this time, and you expected significantly more?
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if so, why? :frown:
Yes.
:frown:
Because of Presby and Duke.
:frown:
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more. I expected Wally to be better, he’s not (go compare him to Thomas Robinson – it’s really not even a comparison). I expected Curtis (and Jamar to a certain extent) to…well…play and they hadn’t for a number of games. I thought our defense would be better than it is – I thought it would be dominating from the start, not “similar” to the start of last year. I thought Freddy would be more aggressive, he’s not (I mean, jfc, he pumped faked – against emporia state - on a runout and then laid the ball in).
And I expected all this because I thought we had enough talent and experience returning that there wouldn’t be these hurdles to overcome….essentially our starting point would be different. Maybe I expected too much.
you're upset at some pretty odd things. i mean, the pump fake is asprilla's "go to". you don't stop doing what you do well just because you're playing a crappy team.
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more. I expected Wally to be better, he’s not (go compare him to Thomas Robinson – it’s really not even a comparison). I expected Curtis (and Jamar to a certain extent) to…well…play and they hadn’t for a number of games. I thought our defense would be better than it is – I thought it would be dominating from the start, not “similar” to the start of last year. I thought Freddy would be more aggressive, he’s not (I mean, jfc, he pumped faked – against emporia state - on a runout and then laid the ball in).
And I expected all this because I thought we had enough talent and experience returning that there wouldn’t be these hurdles to overcome….essentially our starting point would be different. Maybe I expected too much.
catzacker, the problem is you, not the kstate team. both of you are what you are.
the asprilla fastbreak pump fake was funny though.
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more.
*tap* *tap* Is this thing on??
You expected 7-0 and #1 in the Country instead of 6-1/#6?
We destroyed #24 VaTech by 16pts. You expected more?
We raped #12 Gonzaga by 17. You expected more?
We lost to #1 Duke. You expected more?
You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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if so, why? :frown:
Yes.
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Because of Presby and Duke.
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i guess if given up means i don't believe they'll win conference and/or make final four then yes, i've given up.
why? i never believed in the first place.
:dunno:
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Agree with 'zacker.
Loved last years team much more(even at this same point in the season) than this years team.
Make me fall in love again JunkYardCats.
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Guys, there is no Denis this year. You can't love this team as much. It won't happen. :frown:
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Maybe it's because everyone is so excited about our bowl-eligble football team, that they don't have time for secondary sports. :)
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Maybe it's because everyone is so excited about our bowl-eligble football team, that they don't have time for secondary sports. :)
hmmm, no, that's definitely not it. maybe the denis thing I said?
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Agree with 'zacker.
Loved last years team much more(even at this same point in the season) than this years team.
Make me fall in love again JunkYardCats.
very few people loved this team at this point in time last year. i did. but there were probably only three or four other people in the entire world that did.
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Clams, to put it simply: I expected more.
*tap* *tap* Is this thing on??
You expected 7-0 and #1 in the Country instead of 6-1/#6?
We destroyed #24 VaTech by 16pts. You expected more?
We raped #12 Gonzaga by 17. You expected more?
We lost to #1 Duke. You expected more?
You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
really good teams (which is what I expected us to be) should have done everything you said against ranked teams at home (we can split hairs about the zag nuetrality), not get embarassed by duke, and destroy everyone else (with an occassional struggle - like we've had in nearly every game against teams we shouldn't struggle with).
it's not that we're a failure or anything or that we aren't good...I just thought (maybe hoped?) that we'd be really good. which might be a good thing, I guess. we're "good" without really playing up to our abilities at all, imo.
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zack -
Love ya, but you're being a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on this one.
Rusty
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I feel dumb and dumber after reading two pages of this garbage.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations - those expectations are, imo, in line with the returning talent and experience. we dont' look like the team I expected, yet. We're close, but not there.
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
i don't think you make sense.
i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh cac" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
i'm not sure your point but i've pointed that out too, do i get a kougs cookie?
I only listen to _FAN, so no.
everyone that posts here knows thats not true.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations - those expectations are, imo, in line with the returning talent and experience. we dont' look like the team I expected, yet. We're close, but not there.
I think we all can agree that Friday will weigh heavily in this debate, no?
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
this is also Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). can this talking point just go away.
some of you just don't get it.
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
we didn't come from no expectations - we finished 2nd in the league last year, had a #2 seed in the tourney (the top #2 seed?), and made it to the elite 8 and return nearly the entire squad, sans Denis. but feel free to set up straw man after straw man and knock them down.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations - those expectations are, imo, in line with the returning talent and experience. we dont' look like the team I expected, yet. We're close, but not there.
I think we all can agree that Friday will weigh heavily in this debate, no?
one person that doesn't agree? ken pomeroy, he has us losing the game.
http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Kansas%20St. (http://kenpom.com/team.php?team=Kansas%20St.)
^i can't get the link to work
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I feel dumb and dumber after reading two pages of this garbage.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moviewallpapers.net%2Fimages%2Fwallpapers%2F1994%2Fdumb-and-dumber%2Fdumb-and-dumber-373-1066.jpg&hash=198682ab82e69b2961b11381b1c2ea23a07b150c)
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
we didn't come from no expectations - we finished 2nd in the league last year, had a #2 seed in the tourney (the top #2 seed?), and made it to the elite 8 and return nearly the entire squad, sans Denis. but feel free to set up straw man after straw man and knock them down.
i feel like we're further along right now then we were at this point last year
so either we started off further along this year and have come the same way (or farther), or we started at the same point, and have come farther. either way :dunno:
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^i can't get the link to work
it's that goddamned period. pomeroy's known about this issue for four years now and hasn't done a damn thing about it.
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Zacker,
You are usually one of the most pessimistic posters on this board. Why did you have high expectations this year for the first 7 games?? Are you changing?
Thinking of you,
WW
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
we didn't come from no expectations - we finished 2nd in the league last year, had a #2 seed in the tourney (the top #2 seed?), and made it to the elite 8 and return nearly the entire squad, sans Denis. but feel free to set up straw man after straw man and knock them down.
We weren't expected to do any of that last year. This year we're expected to win the league and compete for a #1 seed in the tourney, both of which are still very conceivable. :dunno:
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^i can't get the link to work
it's that goddamned period. pomeroy's known about this issue for four years now and hasn't done a damn thing about it.
WARM UP THE ANGRY EMAILS
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I feel dumb and dumber after reading two pages of this garbage.
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^i can't get the link to work
it's that goddamned period. pomeroy's known about this issue for four years now and hasn't done a damn thing about it.
You have to know how to link the non lazy pos way.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations - those expectations are, imo, in line with the returning talent and experience. we dont' look like the team I expected, yet. We're close, but not there.
it is kind of Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that you are mad about curt and jamar not playing much and also mad about how the defense looks and that we haven't run everyone out of the gym. it's kinda like, pick one or other but picking all of them just doesn't make sense because of how much the first affects the second and third. also, thinking that a frank martin coached team was going to look good against crappy teams in novmember means that you haven't watched a lot of basketball over the past four years or you recently had a stroke and lost all of your memories of frank martin coached cats basketball. :dunno:
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I never give up on Cat hoops. Heck, after 12-4/3-2 in Wooly's last year I still believed, and that was AFTER the Nebraska embarrassment in the OOD.
This team is easy to believe in, very easy.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations.
The Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) part is that your expectations have not been met thus far. Unless your expectations were to go through the noncon undefeated and beat Duke (which is basically unreasonable) you should be satisfied.
See VaTech and Gonzaga. Like Pete said, Friday will go a long way in resolving this perspective clash. Based on how we've played thus far, I see no reason not to expect a W.
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If we lose in Pullman feel free to be ticked, I might even meltdown a little.
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I'm not sure what's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). I have high expectations - those expectations are, imo, in line with the returning talent and experience. we dont' look like the team I expected, yet. We're close, but not there.
it is kind of Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that you are mad about curt and jamar not playing much and also mad about how the defense looks and that we haven't run everyone out of the gym. it's kinda like, pick one or other but picking both just doesn't make sense because of how much the first affects the second and third. also, thinking that a frank martin coached team was going to look good against crappy teams in novmember means that you haven't watched a lot of basketball over the past four years. or you recently had a stroke and lost all of your memories of frank martin coached cats basketball. :dunno:
they're related. how hard is it to get your cac straight off the court when you're a preseason top 5 team picked to win the league? it's a focus issue. and because they couldn't/can't, it hinders the process. i mean, no cac, not having curt hurts....but that's part of expecting a team with experienced players to act like it. i mean, next thing you know jamar's in an elevator with a girl......
all frank martin coached teams (regardless of their talent level and experience) shouldn't look like the same cac in november. i think that's absurd coaching.
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If we lose in Pullman feel free to be ticked, I might even meltdown a little.
+1
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i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
i don't think that every year, regardless of your talent level or experience, patterns should remain. the starting point has to be different.
i don't think you make sense.
i was hoping this team would be special but it's not. maybe if frank sits me or something i'll buy in.
you didn't consider last year's team as special did you?
it was special because it was unexpected. my expectation this year was to win the big 12. i don't see us doing that.
franks teams get better over time. they've been this way since he started. momentum will be built and we will begin to see the glimpses of crap get less and less and the good spots get longer and longer. december has traditionally been frank's month.
guess what baby!? it's DECEMBER 1ST!! WOOOOOOHHOOOOO!!
Remember when we lost to OSU in the OOD, and then when we had to play them in KC everyone was like "oh cac" and then we beat them by like 50?
Yeah.
As _FAN has pointed out numerous times, we're further along now than we were this time a year ago.
i'm not sure your point but i've pointed that out too, do i get a kougs cookie?
clams,
what did you think about my "rodkey opening the door..." comment? clever play on words, no?
i thought it sucked and i think you suck and so does your face. how is that play on words? clear enough or do i need to clear my throat?
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I never give up on Cat hoops. Heck, after 12-4/3-2 in Wooly's last year I still believed, and that was AFTER the Nebraska embarrassment in the OOD.
This team is easy to believe in, very easy.
You did hang on to that loser Wools far too long, I was starting to wonder if you were a long lost son.Guys, there is no Denis this year. You can't love this team as much. It won't happen. :frown:
Hell, nobody liked Denis early last year, and if anyone says they did they're lying,
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We do have several experienced players, but we are also working in several new guys as well. In fact, we are one of the most inexperienced teams in the league overall. That is part of our growing pains, and is only magnified by Kelly and Samuels missing games.
http://statsheet.com/mcb/stattracker/experience/confs?conf=big-12
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Hell, nobody liked Denis early last year, and if anyone says they did they're lying,
You can go eff yourself because I loved the little mexican SOB
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Yes sd, I remember a few (very few) being on the Denis bandwagon very early last year, but it was a very small group, even at goEMAW.
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Hell, nobody liked Denis early last year, and if anyone says they did they're lying,
You can go eff yourself because I loved the little mexican SOB
Ahem...He's Haitian.
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Case in point...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=414.msg4938#msg4938
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it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because we're #5, 6-1, only loss to the best team in the country(by far), and further along than we were at this point last year. You can't go from no expectations to expecting to be the uncontested greatest team in the country in one year without being considered Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)...
we didn't come from no expectations - we finished 2nd in the league last year, had a #2 seed in the tourney (the top #2 seed?), and made it to the elite 8 and return nearly the entire squad, sans Denis. but feel free to set up straw man after straw man and knock them down.
I've got to get with 'Zacker on this one... there's a slightly empty feeling in the pit of my stomach due the Catz play so far this season. I can't say for sure what's causing it. I think it has something to do with the identity of last years team vs. this years team. I think it's the lack of junkyardiness. Between Dom, Denis, and LuCo, we lost a ton of JYCs... probably the three junkyardiest on the team. This years team has a completely different identity and maybe not much identity to speak of at all. At least not yet.
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The Denis & Jake 1,2 punch was just to amazing. I miss it so much, it hurts.
Also who on this team is going to cry after a loss in the regular season............WHO?!
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I love this one...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=432.0
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LBBIQ Denis Analysis:
Love him. Seems to force teams to scramble back on defense even off made baskets possibly keeping them off the offensive glass :dunno: Great at creating his own shot though it hasn't been falling as much as it used to. Has the ability to go off for 20+ which Martavious will never have. Plays bad defense sometimes. Seems to do well at breaking press. Like when they try to trap him at halfcourt and he just leans into the defender forcing a call by the official and forcing them to stop trying to trap at half court. Like his runner which he can get whenever he wants (goes back to creating his own shot I guess). Isn't afraid to shoot when open early in possession which is what we want to do according to Frank (raises the number of possessions? :dunno: ). A:TO ratio is respectible in relation to the amount of sh1t he gets about it. Don't know why this is. Possibly our fans hate flashy turnovers and would rather have a bounce pass out of bounds 25 seconds into the shot clock :dunno: Probably some other stuff that I can't put into words because I have LBBIQ.
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I've got to get with 'Zacker on this one... there's a slightly empty feeling in the pit of my stomach due the Catz play so far this season. I can't say for sure what's causing it. I think it has something to do with the identity of last years team vs. this years team. I think it's the lack of junkyardiness. Between Dom, Denis, and LuCo, we lost a ton of JYCs... probably the three junkyardiest on the team. This years team has a completely different identity and maybe not much identity to speak of at all. At least not yet.
sounds like this boils down to a fun-to-watch issue.
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LBBIQ Denis Analysis:
Love him. Seems to force teams to scramble back on defense even off made baskets possibly keeping them off the offensive glass :dunno: Great at creating his own shot though it hasn't been falling as much as it used to. Has the ability to go off for 20+ which Martavious will never have. Plays bad defense sometimes. Seems to do well at breaking press. Like when they try to trap him at halfcourt and he just leans into the defender forcing a call by the official and forcing them to stop trying to trap at half court. Like his runner which he can get whenever he wants (goes back to creating his own shot I guess). Isn't afraid to shoot when open early in possession which is what we want to do according to Frank (raises the number of possessions? :dunno: ). A:TO ratio is respectible in relation to the amount of sh1t he gets about it. Don't know why this is. Possibly our fans hate flashy turnovers and would rather have a bounce pass out of bounds 25 seconds into the shot clock :dunno: Probably some other stuff that I can't put into words because I have LBBIQ.
sd, there are plenty more that i didnt link. The Denis hate was borderline comical at times last year.
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I've got to get with 'Zacker on this one... there's a slightly empty feeling in the pit of my stomach due the Catz play so far this season. I can't say for sure what's causing it. I think it has something to do with the identity of last years team vs. this years team. I think it's the lack of junkyardiness. Between Dom, Denis, and LuCo, we lost a ton of JYCs... probably the three junkyardiest on the team. This years team has a completely different identity and maybe not much identity to speak of at all. At least not yet.
sounds like this boils down to a fun-to-watch issue.
this might be it. thanks hoops psychia-sys.
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sd, there are plenty more that i didnt link. The Denis hate was borderline comical at times last year.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome how hated he was by our tard fans
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it's his defense more than his shot selection that is hurting us. but if you're on the "I hate denis bandwagon" but don't in the same sentence say who should play, then stfu because it's pointless (also you're gay).
Disagree. I think you can hate someone but still want him to play over people that you hate more.
I'm not saying you can't think this, again, I'm just saying you're gay.
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sd, there are plenty more that i didnt link. The Denis hate was borderline comical at times last year.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome how hated he was by our tard fans
And that was HERE! GP was even more epic at times.
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I love this one...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=432.0
oh my how embarrassing for those people! :lol:
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Re: Honest question from a casual BB fan
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 12:11:25 AM »
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Quote from: Pete on October 09, 2010, 05:35:28 PM
Quote from: sys on October 09, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: econocat on October 09, 2010, 05:18:53 PM
WTF is up with playing 4 or 5 top-25 teams for our non-conference schedule? I know SOS is important for seeding in 'the dance' but JFC so are W-L.
martin's not a complete foooocking pussy. foreign concept for most kstaters, i know.
RPI is THE most important factor for the Non-con. Let your conference schedule be your time to worry about wins and losses.
You guys are talking about a meltdown if lose to WSU; so was Pete full of crap with this post?
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LBBIQ Denis Analysis:
Love him. Seems to force teams to scramble back on defense even off made baskets possibly keeping them off the offensive glass :dunno: Great at creating his own shot though it hasn't been falling as much as it used to. Has the ability to go off for 20+ which Martavious will never have. Plays bad defense sometimes. Seems to do well at breaking press. Like when they try to trap him at halfcourt and he just leans into the defender forcing a call by the official and forcing them to stop trying to trap at half court. Like his runner which he can get whenever he wants (goes back to creating his own shot I guess). Isn't afraid to shoot when open early in possession which is what we want to do according to Frank (raises the number of possessions? :dunno: ). A:TO ratio is respectible in relation to the amount of sh1t he gets about it. Don't know why this is. Possibly our fans hate flashy turnovers and would rather have a bounce pass out of bounds 25 seconds into the shot clock :dunno: Probably some other stuff that I can't put into words because I have LBBIQ.
sd, there are plenty more that i didnt link. The Denis hate was borderline comical at times last year.
You really helped us through those tough times.
Gave me the confidence to post something like this:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=673.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=673.0)
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Re: Honest question from a casual BB fan
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 12:11:25 AM »
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Quote from: Pete on October 09, 2010, 05:35:28 PM
Quote from: sys on October 09, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: econocat on October 09, 2010, 05:18:53 PM
WTF is up with playing 4 or 5 top-25 teams for our non-conference schedule? I know SOS is important for seeding in 'the dance' but JFC so are W-L.
martin's not a complete foooocking pussy. foreign concept for most kstaters, i know.
RPI is THE most important factor for the Non-con. Let your conference schedule be your time to worry about wins and losses.
You guys are talking about a meltdown if lose to WSU; so was Pete full of crap with this post?
It won't be meltdown about making the tournament if we lost to Wazzu, it will be a meltdown about how overrated we are and how we won't win crap against our rivals or titles.
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a lot of people just like to meltdown.
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i loved hating denis, i even got a tattoo.
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http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=47301.msg665049#msg665049
:gocho:
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If we lose in Pullman feel free to be ticked, I might even meltdown a little.
+1
Meh, we can't on one hand acknowledge on one hand that Frank creates adversity and tinkers with the roster and rotations in the early season and then on the other hand really cares much when we lose games like this. If Frank had a consistent 8-9 man rotation with players understanding their roles I would care more. We know Frank makes sacrifices to build towards February and March so I expect adversity in November and December.
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Yeah, I'll be pretty meh if we lose. I might post something about how Dom would have bothered Klay or Freddy Brown shooting 48% from three, but that's about it.
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i loved hating denis, i even got a tattoo.
Yeah. You were a total dumbass, which is pretty shocking. Oh no, wait a minute. It's not. :lol:
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Yeah, I'll be pretty meh if we lose. I might post something about how Dom would have bothered Klay or Freddy Brown shooting 48% from three, but that's about it.
i've been saving up some running-sutton-off anger. can't wait for an opportunity to let it go.
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I love this one...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=432.0
Really wish I posted more then, I would wear myself out slapping Dax in chat, just didn't want to :takesbait: in all 4,627,294 of his Denis and empty scholarship threads
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Hell, nobody liked Denis early last year, and if anyone says they did they're lying,
You can go eff yourself because I loved the little mexican SOB
Sorry this took so long but I've been off rough ridin' myself, it was pretty enjoyable too, but I digress.
You dipchits get too anxious about everythig K-State , smoke some weed , or take a prozac, cause the basketball coach will massage the youngsters into a totally different bunch of JYC by March.
Write it down MFR'S :kstatriot:
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I love this one...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=432.0
I don't hate Clems
:popcorn:
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Meh, we can't on one hand acknowledge on one hand that Frank creates adversity and tinkers with the roster and rotations in the early season and then on the other hand really cares much when we lose games like this. If Frank had a consistent 8-9 man rotation with players understanding their roles I would care more. We know Frank makes sacrifices to build towards February and March so I expect adversity in November and December.
Even while Frank is still Frankin' around with his teams in Nov/Dec, I still expect us to beat Colorado/Tech level teams, even on the road. Wash St will be lucky to be an NIT team this year, this is simply a team we should beat.
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Meh, we can't on one hand acknowledge on one hand that Frank creates adversity and tinkers with the roster and rotations in the early season and then on the other hand really cares much when we lose games like this. If Frank had a consistent 8-9 man rotation with players understanding their roles I would care more. We know Frank makes sacrifices to build towards February and March so I expect adversity in November and December.
Even while Frank is still Frankin' around with his teams in Nov/Dec, I still expect us to beat Colorado/Tech level teams, even on the road. Wash St will be lucky to be an NIT team this year, this is simply a team we should beat.
i admit kenpom is making very nervous. hoping it plays out like last year and we'll be a more consistent/focused road team and handle these guys w/ relative ease.
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If we lose in Pullman feel free to be ticked, I might even meltdown a little.
+1
Meh, we can't on one hand acknowledge on one hand that Frank creates adversity and tinkers with the roster and rotations in the early season and then on the other hand really cares much when we lose games like this. If Frank had a consistent 8-9 man rotation with players understanding their roles I would care more. We know Frank makes sacrifices to build towards February and March so I expect adversity in November and December.
I agree except that I think Wazzu is a way overrated team and if we lose to them it makes me wonder about our games against our conference rivals. I understand we usually are a much stronger team later in the year though.
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i really, really, really want this year to result in something. big 12 champ reg season or conf tourn or final four would be amazing. unless a game relates to one of those three things things, i don't care. would rather win then lose i guess but whatever.
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I don't even care if the team does something "big". All I ask from KSU basketball is to be solidly in the tourney every year. We're definitely going to be in, so I'm all :gocho: all year.
So what?
:ck:
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I don't even care if the team does something "big". All I ask from KSU basketball is to be solidly in the tourney every year. We're definitely going to be in, so I'm all :gocho: all year.
So what?
:ck:
i'm with michigancat. great first post! i'll send you a case of kansasas finest apples.
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i think wsu is better than tech/cu level. more of an osu level. tough road game.
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i think wsu is better than tech/cu level. more of an osu level. tough road game.
Could be. I don't think they are a tournament team though.
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i really, really, really want this year to result in something. big 12 champ reg season or conf tourn or final four would be amazing. unless a game relates to one of those three things things, i don't care. would rather win then lose i guess but whatever.
Totally agree.
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Could be. I don't think they are a tournament team though.
i don't think osu is either. between the two, i'd bet wsu.
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Could be. I don't think they are a tournament team though.
i don't think osu is either. between the two, i'd bet wsu.
The only issue with this is that Wazzu will have very very few opportunities for quality wins but OSU will have about a dozen chances in conference play alone.
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You dipchits get too anxious about everythig K-State , smoke some weed , or take a prozac, cause the basketball coach will massage the youngsters into a totally different bunch of JYC by March.
Write it down MFR'S :kstatriot:
Good call Clarahan.
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You dipchits get too anxious about everythig K-State , smoke some weed , or take a prozac, cause the basketball coach will massage the youngsters into a totally different bunch of JYC by March.
Write it down MFR'S :kstatriot:
Good call Clarahan.
:surprised: