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Title: Freddy
Post by: CNS on November 16, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
Aspree-ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 16, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
pretty much what everyone expected early on.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: ednksu on November 16, 2010, 06:08:25 PM
he was the best high post player we had against the zone idiots.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Johnny Thunderbone on November 16, 2010, 06:13:24 PM
"zone idiots" or "zone, idiots"?  Comma changes everything.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 16, 2010, 06:23:37 PM
Luis Colon type career so far.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Paul Moscow on November 16, 2010, 06:25:38 PM
Luis Colon type career so far.

In that case Wazzu posts should be on the look out for an unprovoked Asprilla haymaker.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pexikan on November 16, 2010, 07:00:40 PM
He kinda sticks out like a sore thumb right now. Refs will be all in his ass because how much bigger he is than the opponents who guard him. I wish he had a baseline step-back jumpshot. This junkyard gameplan of him backing down opponents on the block and crashing into  people on the offensive glass makes him a target for foul calls. As big as he is, he needs more inside game. Defensively, he is better than I expected. He doesn't swat at shots like JO, and he boards better in traffic than everyone who has seen minutes inside.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kso_FAN on November 16, 2010, 08:10:31 PM
he was the best high post player we had against the zone idiots.

Really.  Our zone offense sucked much of the time he was in b/c he had no idea what to do or where to be.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Benja on November 16, 2010, 08:42:42 PM
he was the best high post player we had against the zone idiots.

Really.  Our zone offense sucked much of the time he was in b/c he had no idea what to do or where to be.

Lol yeah, of all the things to point out... Freddy is a big strong presence around the basket and I like his instincts so far on defense and the way he uses his body, but this wasn't the kind of game his offense is going to shine in, and he certainly looked uncomfortable as hell against the zone for the most part.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 16, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
If you didn't think Ass puh rilla was solid against the zone, you weren't watching very closely. In the 2nd half when they went exclusively zone, the gorilla was the only proficient post player at flashing high and distributing to the wings. I.e. every one of irvings wide open 3s.

of all games to criticize our zone offense...
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: mcmwcat on November 16, 2010, 09:59:30 PM
If you didn't think Ass puh rilla was solid against the zone, you weren't watching very closely. In the 2nd half when they went exclusively zone, the gorilla was the only proficient post player at flashing high and distributing to the wings. I.e. every one of irvings wide open 3s.

of all games to criticize our zone offense...


bullshit.  samuels had an assist to macgruder for a 3 and judge hit jhr on the baseline for an easy layup.  both from the high post. 
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kso_FAN on November 16, 2010, 10:00:40 PM
If you didn't think Ass puh rilla was solid against the zone, you weren't watching very closely. In the 2nd half when they went exclusively zone, the gorilla was the only proficient post player at flashing high and distributing to the wings. I.e. every one of irvings wide open 3s.

of all games to criticize our zone offense...

Good points.  I didn't think he was terrible at times and is a good passer, but it seemed there were also times when he clearly didn't know what he was doing.  I think he'll be a very good player once he catches up to the speed and physical play here.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pendergast on November 16, 2010, 10:24:45 PM
he boards better in traffic than everyone who has seen minutes inside.

JHR is rebounding at higher level than anyone on the team IMO.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: mcmwcat on November 16, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
macgruder and samuels both gathered missed shots quite well this afternoon.  good job guys
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kso_FAN on November 16, 2010, 10:29:05 PM
he boards better in traffic than everyone who has seen minutes inside.

JHR is rebounding at higher level than anyone on the team IMO.

The numbers, at least from today, would say you are correct.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2010/11/16/virginia-tech-57-kansas-state-73
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pexikan on November 17, 2010, 12:41:12 AM
he boards better in traffic than everyone who has seen minutes inside.

JHR is rebounding at higher level than anyone on the team IMO.

The numbers, at least from today, would say you are correct.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2010/11/16/virginia-tech-57-kansas-state-73


I see that. I knew JO had more boards, my comment is regarding JO's hands and the lack there of.  He can't catch for crap. I've seen Freddy pull down a few one-handed.  Of all our bigs, I trust Jamar and Freddys hands the most.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kso_FAN on November 17, 2010, 07:10:52 AM
I see that. I knew JO had more boards, my comment is regarding JO's hands and the lack there of.  He can't catch for cac. I've seen Freddy pull down a few one-handed.  Of all our bigs, I trust Jamar and Freddys hands the most.

I would agree with that.  Frank took JO out of the game at least once b/c of his lack of hands..
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2010, 07:22:12 AM
His little turn around hook deal that almost went but didn't was pretty dreamy
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: mcmwcat on November 17, 2010, 07:23:42 AM
I see that. I knew JO had more boards, my comment is regarding JO's hands and the lack there of.  He can't catch for cac. I've seen Freddy pull down a few one-handed.  Of all our bigs, I trust Jamar and Freddys hands the most.

I would agree with that.  Frank took JO out of the game at least once b/c of his lack of hands..

he also caught some passes in tight spaces that surprised me  :dunno:
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 17, 2010, 08:25:02 AM
Luis Colon type career so far.

I don't think he's anything like Colon. Wally Judge is more similar to Colon than Freddy Asprilla.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: mcmwcat on November 17, 2010, 08:44:06 AM
Luis Colon type career so far.

ksf42, please stick to providing recruiting coverage.  thanks for your hard work.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: asava on November 17, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
lou tried to be what freddy already is. he is a large step up from lou. no question.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 17, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
lol. Freddy really hasnt impressed ME!  How long has it been since he has played an actual game that counts? ( not counting this season?) Maybe im wrong and he is a little bit rusty.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: hatingfrancisco on November 17, 2010, 04:20:33 PM
lol. Freddy really hasnt impressed ME!  How long has it been since he has played an actual game that counts? ( not counting this season?) Maybe im wrong and he is a little bit rusty.  :dunno:

Freddy is a huge upgrade at that position.  Seems like your BBIQ is rusty..
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Belvis Noland on November 17, 2010, 04:22:04 PM

Freddy is a huge upgrade at that position.  Seems like your BBIQ is rusty..

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pendergast on November 17, 2010, 08:24:23 PM
I see that. I knew JO had more boards, my comment is regarding JO's hands and the lack there of.  He can't catch for cac. I've seen Freddy pull down a few one-handed.  Of all our bigs, I trust Jamar and Freddys hands the most.

I would agree with that.  Frank took JO out of the game at least once b/c of his lack of hands..

Disagree.  His hands are fine.  You can't logically out-rebound all of your teammates without hands.  I mean LOL at catching a rebound with nubs.

Seriously though, his hands are fine.  If you're going to pick on something, pick on his feet.  He needs to watch Jamar work down low.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 18, 2010, 05:59:09 PM
Yes, i know Freddy is an upgrade over luis. I think My expectations were a little high.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: jtksu on November 18, 2010, 06:04:31 PM
Season just started, bro, and it's been awhile since he's played games.  I still think he's going to be good for us this year.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 18, 2010, 06:07:45 PM
Season just started, bro, and it's been awhile since he's played games.  I still think he's going to be good for us this year.
Yeah i know. SILLY ME!
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pett on November 18, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
JFC. *Bump* :facepalm:
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: CNS on November 18, 2010, 10:44:55 PM
We were horrible the majority of the time he was in tonight.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pett on November 18, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
Art Alvarez, liar and hater of K-State. :curse:

BTW, we need an Aspirilla one of these: :ck:
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: skycat on November 19, 2010, 01:14:16 AM
Art Alvarez, liar and hater of K-State. :curse:

BTW, we need an Aspirilla one of these: :ck:

Well, we already knew Art was a shameless huckster. But what of all the praise for Freddy we've heard come from Frank and the players? How impressive he was in practice? I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now, since we're only three games in. We should have a clearer picture by the time conference play rolls around. Same with Wally.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: SuperG on November 19, 2010, 03:52:39 AM
Art Alvarez, liar and hater of K-State. :curse:

BTW, we need an Aspirilla one of these: :ck:

Well, we already knew Art was a shameless huckster. But what of all the praise for Freddy we've heard come from Frank and the players? How impressive he was in practice? I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now, since we're only three games in. We should have a clearer picture by the time conference play rolls around. Same with Wally.

Benefit of the doubt?  :lol:

Just give in and melt down really hard like the rest of the chuckleheads on this board after three games... it makes for better bbs'ing.
Title: Re: Freddy
Post by: Pett on January 09, 2011, 02:21:04 PM
Pshhht. How bad is the Sun Belt Conference? :rolleyes: