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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Topcat09 on October 13, 2010, 09:45:48 PM
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=6525334
Good stuff... :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
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Im not really that excited?? :dunno:
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This would be good. unless HCIW
dream staff...
Leech HC, Mangino OC, Levitt DC
MCCMW
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It would be really good as long as he's not HCIW.
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It's Leavitt!
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Too bad it won't happen.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
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I think we can all conclude that this is reliable and Leavitt is our new Co-D Coordinator. Congrat's Jim!
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
I feel like it's the opposite of that.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
I'd a old guy and I would love to have him. He would have solid Florida recruiting ties, he's got fire and he knows defense. He's like a less Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) Bo Pellini.
When he was here before, we actually got guys from Florida like Darren Howard.
We could do a whole lot worse and we have for the last 6 years.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
Being of the older set, I would take JL in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd let you slob his knob, if it would help.
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Well who the hell have I been talking to? :runaway:
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
He has "baggage" of the FP, TC etc. variety that just doesn't play well with our salt of the earth fans, you know, morons.
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JL wouldn't be my first or last choice, would be "meh"
As long as we get rid of Cosh.
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I'm all for it, if just to be free from the Cosh, and to see that Snyd's could actually make a positive move w/ the staff. HCIW? Verdict is still out on that one. :users:
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:horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
See, You talk about flying a banner over the stadium about firing someone and crap gets done.
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I'm all for it, if just to be free from the Cosh, and to see that Snyd's could actually make a positive move w/ the staff. HCIW? Verdict is still out on that one. :users:
Here is the deal, Wefald, Krause, and Weiser screwed up the first time not because Prince was a complete asshat, but because he wasn't from the "Snyder Tree" and not powerespect approved.
Prince never had full support of the powerespect fan base because he was not part of the "Snyder Tree". Some in the powerespect fan base claim that they could recognize Prince's faults, but it was primarily because he was not from the "Snyder Tree".
Now for Prince, that was a good thing because he had no business being a BCS head coach and we were able to get rid of him relatively fast. However, since we did not hire outside the "Snyder Tree" after Prince (we hired the "Snyder family tree root"), the pressure will be to hire from the "Snyder Tree".
So that leaves the following:
Bob Stoops - Not leaving OU
Mike Stoops - Not leaving Arizona
Dimel/Del Miller - God no!! and I think most PowerTards agree.
Venables - Some deep, dark secret preventing this.
Mangino - Coached at KU so he is tainted for life with PowerTards(I personally think he would be great).
Leavitt - No current job, powerespect approved, better than most, worse than a few.
So unfortunately, to get the full support of the Tards we have to hire someone from the "Tree". So that person will either fail and we'll be able to hire outside the tree or succeed and we will all be happy.
This is the path Wefald and Co. have put us on.
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Dude did a pretty damn good job @ USF. Unless we could somehow (we can't) get GP, Leavitt is likely the best HC we could get, and probably by a fair margin. We're not getting a Miles or a Richt, so just stop kidding/torturing yourselves. Leavitt would be a fantastic hire as DC and a very good hire as HCIW.
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the only reason I could get behind JL as HCIW would be that he looks like a pakhead and talks like I imagine the pakhead talking.
other than that he is a big pile of meh
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I really don't understand how so many people in our fanbase think being a "hot head" is a bad thing. That's how a real rough ridin' coach is supposed to act. When you have TC's & FP's on your team, you slap those bitches until they either man up or quit the team. Mangino knew this, Leach knew this, & Leavitt rough ridin' knows this.
Best LIKELY HCIW scenario BY FAR.
:lynchmob:
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BUT HE HITZ PLAYERS
:chainsaw: :curse: :ohno:
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We aren't ever going to ever be a consistant top-10 team, it's just not going to happen. A guy like Leavitt could make us a consistant top-25 team though. And then you wait for a perfect storm type of occurance, when you get the right players in the right spots and make a run at the conference championship. (Like Cincinnati last year) GP would be, by far, the best we could get as HC but I don't see that happening anytime soon. Take Leavitt as HCIW and run with that crap.
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If he becomes a HCIW, the only way it happens is Currie okays it after putting out feelers to other candidates.
DC? Me want. HCIW? Whatever. Depends totally on assistants at that point.
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Dude did a pretty damn good job @ USF. Unless we could somehow (we can't) get GP, Leavitt is likely the best HC we could get, and probably by a fair margin. We're not getting a Miles or a Richt, so just stop kidding/torturing yourselves. Leavitt would be a fantastic hire as DC and a very good hire as HCIW.
Do you even know where you are bbs'ing and for what team?
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed. And I would imagine Currie already has a decent feel for his options as the next HC. If he doesn't, then he sucks. Name one realistic option that is better than Leavitt.
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed. And I would imagine Currie already has a decent feel for his options as the next HC. If he doesn't, then he sucks. Name one realistic option that is better than Leavitt.
It depends on who else wants him. Mike Leach interviewing at LSU and you know he's not being anointed 'HCIW'. However, (and we just suffered through this with Chuggins and the wiefdom) if Leach goes to LSU and does well then he's going to be getting HC offers elsewhere, maybe even within a year of being there. He knows this, LSU knows this and they'd be stupid not to rent his services for 1-3 max years they can get it.
The point is, Leavitt would be stupid to accept a HCIW tag for at least two obvious reasons.
1) As mentioned with Mike Leach, Leavitt needs to get back into coaching to prove that he's not a f*cking looney bin. Once he's done his time in college football purgatory (KSU DC job) other teams are green-lighted to get him as he is no longer considered controversial and will bring less heat to the program by fans and pundits. Let's call this the Huggins effect.
2) KSU will most likely give you the job anyways. If Leavitt accepts any HCIW tag who knows what condition this team could be in by then. Leavitt could coach his ass off, make us a top 25 defense and we could still suck. Provide yourself the opportunity to bail in case the whole thing blows up in your face. If, for some reason, you don't get the job just scoot on over to a comparable Illinois, or Maryland team and try your luck there. But for chrissakes don't tie yourself to a program that's barely afloat.
Unless Leavitt is incredibly EMAW ( or desperate) there's no way he would agree to it.
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If you guys want a bunch of bullshit that will never happen, I can feed it to you by the bucketload
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Dude, accepting an HCIW tag is never a bad thing for a coordinator. Worst case scenrio, the team sucks when it's his turn and he bolts when the outgoing coach leaves. Best case, you get to take over the reins of a winning program. Good teams typically don't hire new heads coaches buddy.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
I feel like it's the opposite of that.
I feel like _33 feels. I'm fine with JL as the DC, not as the HCIW. JL's conference record in the terrible big east, when USF was at its best.....was 17-18, never finishing higher than tied for fracking 3rd.
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:love: :fatty:
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Leavitt also built that program from no team at all to a #2 ranking in like 10 years. USF was the fastest team ever to go from the FCS level to a top-25 ranking and the fastest to go from a FCS to a top-10 ranking. Even faster than Boise.
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I'd be okay with him as headcoach. But I'm also a maniac, so take that fwiw.
This.
I feel like all of us in the student/recently graduated category are all for this, and the older folk are not. Is there something we don't know? Is he too young and hip for a conservative, Snyder-worshiping K-State?
I feel like it's the opposite of that.
I feel like _33 feels. I'm fine with JL as the DC, not as the HCIW. JL's conference record in the terrible big east, when USF was at its best.....was 17-18, never finishing higher than tied for fracking 3rd.
i vote for this. but i'm afraid once he gets his foot in the door as DC the shirt tucks' incestuous urge to 'keep it in the family' will be too strong and he'll end up as HC.
i don't know why but i'm optimistic w/ Currie making the right decisions and pushing Snyder to do the right thing.
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Leavitt also built that program from no team at all to a #2 ranking in like 10 years. USF was the fastest team ever to go from the FCS level to a top-25 ranking and the fastest to go from a FCS to a top-10 ranking. Even faster than Boise.
Everyone was ranked #2 that season.
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Leavitt also built that program from no team at all to a #2 ranking in like 10 years. USF was the fastest team ever to go from the FCS level to a top-25 ranking and the fastest to go from a FCS to a top-10 ranking. Even faster than Boise.
He did a good job, doing it in with the feather of a BCS conference, a few miles down the road from a bagillion D1 recruits, in a large coastal city is not exactly parting the Red Sea. Still, was impressive....
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Jim Leavitt as an assistant would be an incredible hire. If he was HCIW (which I think is totally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) no matter who the guy is) I wouldn't care, because that's like a total non-binding irrelevant title that vanishes with an Athletic Director.
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USF started in CUSA.
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I'd take Leavitt and :cheese:
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Jim Leavitt as an assistant would be an incredible hire. If he was HCIW (which I think is totally Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) no matter who the guy is) I wouldn't care, because that's like a total non-binding irrelevant title that vanishes with an Athletic Director.
That's what's so great about it. You get what looks like a really good DC in the door, and then see how he performs and how many helmets he breaks with his nose and then decide on him when the time comes. What's not to like about that?
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Leavitt also built that program from no team at all to a #2 ranking in like 10 years. USF was the fastest team ever to go from the FCS level to a top-25 ranking and the fastest to go from a FCS to a top-10 ranking. Even faster than Boise.
He did a good job, doing it in with the feather of a BCS conference, a few miles down the road from a bagillion D1 recruits, in a large coastal city is not exactly parting the Red Sea. Still, was impressive....
Tampa is a crap hole, tbh though (except for Busch Gardens)
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Leavitt also built that program from no team at all to a #2 ranking in like 10 years. USF was the fastest team ever to go from the FCS level to a top-25 ranking and the fastest to go from a FCS to a top-10 ranking. Even faster than Boise.
He did a good job, doing it in with the feather of a BCS conference, a few miles down the road from a bagillion D1 recruits, in a large coastal city is not exactly parting the Red Sea. Still, was impressive....
Tampa is a crap hole, tbh though (except for Busch Gardens)
This
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=6525334
Good stuff... :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
Hey, GOEMAWyourface.com - tell me, how did that crap website break this story before you guys?
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2670&t=6525334
Good stuff... :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
Hey, GOEMAWyourface.com - tell me, how did that crap website break this story before you guys?
:blindfold:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7046.msg153308#msg153308
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You guys hearing anything about Leavitt doing a stint back in happiness. Those in the know please reply. :woot:
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:facepalm:
Edit: So this doesn't have to continue longer than necessary: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7169.0
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BUT HE HITZ PLAYERS
:chainsaw: :curse: :ohno:
Can you name me one player who shouldn't have been punched in the face or kicked in the groin last week? Me either..
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It's Leavitt!!!!! :flush:
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Former South Florida University coach Jim Leavitt has been hired as Kansas State's 34th defensive coordinator coach, multiple sources have confirmed to GoPowercat.com. Leavitt replaces Chris Cosh, who was fired Thursday.
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goEMAW.com exclusive.
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Somebody better check on Chings...he may have been admitted to the hospital after hearing all this
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:eek: :eek: (ftp://:eek: :eek:)
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what a piece of crap thread.
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goEMAW.com exclusive that was confirmed to gopowercat.com? :confused:
This thread was executed as well as our LB and S run fits last week.
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thread fail.
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what a piece of cac thread.
:horrorsurprise:
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Better delete it then. :facepalm:
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Better delete it then. :facepalm:
"We weren't where we were supposed to be when we were were creating our posts," Snyder said. "That falls back in our lap. We just have to do a better job getting our words in the right place."
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Former South Florida University coach Jim Leavitt has been hired as Kansas State's 34th defensive coordinator coach, multiple sources have confirmed to GoPowercat.com. Leavitt replaces Chris Cosh, who was fired Thursday.
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goEMAW.com exclusive.
lol...i actually went to gpc, just to check.
REELED ME IN AGAIN!
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Too bad. Leavitt would beat Hartman to a bloody pulp.
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Stupid thread. Go die.
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I'm on board with the thought that Petro made this statement just to see how many threads would be started. BTW, his screen name is (+1 Hidden).
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This thread would make a powerespect blush, I know it did for me :facepalm:.
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Can't wait to see this year's total.
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Wasn't that Cripps rough rider the same guy that said Arthur Brown would be eligible this year?
If so, :excited:
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Wasn't that Cripps effer the same guy that said Arthur Brown would be eligible this year?
If so, :excited:
He also said that Masoli was a done deal.
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed.
Why? Does he have a lot of other HC offers at major programs laying around at the moment?
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Why does everyone keep bringing up HCIW when we have an HC that has said over and over that he doesn't want to coach any more?
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed.
Why? Does he have a lot of other HC offers at major programs laying around at the moment?
It's about taking a step back. This isn't the NFL, coaches rarely are willing to take a lesser role at the college level. He'll end up as a head coach at a lesser school or a d-coordinator at a big one. Highly doubt he takes the same role he left a decade before. That would reek of failure
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=MODS?= Can we clean up the dumbass leavitt rumors into one dumbass thread? TIA
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed.
Why? Does he have a lot of other HC offers at major programs laying around at the moment?
It's about taking a step back. This isn't the NFL, coaches rarely are willing to take a lesser role at the college level. He'll end up as a head coach at a lesser school or a d-coordinator at a big one. Highly doubt he takes the same role he left a decade before. That would reek of failure
Whereas his firing reeked of success?
We are a big school, btw.
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While he was at USF he did have some very bigtime programs interested in him as a HC. (Bamax2, Miami). Like ChiCat said, I expect him to end up as a DC at some bigtime program or as the HC at a smaller name school. Tons of schools need HCs or DCs every year and I expect him to be on a lot of lists...
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I'd be pretty surprised if he came here as a DC without a HCIW tag guaranteed.
Why? Does he have a lot of other HC offers at major programs laying around at the moment?
It's about taking a step back. This isn't the NFL, coaches rarely are willing to take a lesser role at the college level. He'll end up as a head coach at a lesser school or a d-coordinator at a big one. Highly doubt he takes the same role he left a decade before. That would reek of failure
Whereas his firing reeked of success?
We are a big school, btw.
Not saying the firing was a success, but going back to your previous job after leaving for a better one is shameful in any field. And by big school, I meant perennial top 25 team or at least one that goes to bowls and junk.
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While he was at USF he did have some very bigtime programs interested in him as a HC. (Bamax2, Miami). Like ChiCat said, I expect him to end up as a DC at some bigtime program or as the HC at a smaller name school. Tons of schools need HCs or DCs every year and I expect him to be on a lot of lists...
This seems to be a valid point. 3 years ago Nick Saban was not the Tide's first choice. Leavitt was.
And now the guy isn't good enough for KSU? He is "meh?"
you people are crazy.
Leavitt took a program from a trailer down by the river to a BCS conference. In the 9 years his school was in Div I his defenses ranked in the top 30 in total defense 7 times. In the five years he spent in the Big East all five of his defenses ranked in the top 30.
KSU has not had a defense ranked in the top 30 since 2003.
We have a basketball coach that absolutely, positively hit a player last year, but we are disgusted with the thought of hiring a football coach who "allegedly" slapped a player? A guy that feels so strongly that he is innocent that he is battling with the school in court?
Hypocrisy.
And worse. Stupidity.
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While he was at USF he did have some very bigtime programs interested in him as a HC. (Bamax2, Miami). Like ChiCat said, I expect him to end up as a DC at some bigtime program or as the HC at a smaller name school. Tons of schools need HCs or DCs every year and I expect him to be on a lot of lists...
This seems to be a valid point. 3 years ago Nick Saban was not the Tide's first choice. Leavitt was.
And now the guy isn't good enough for KSU? He is "meh?"
you people are crazy.
Leavitt took a program from a trailer down by the river to a BCS conference. In the 9 years his school was in Div I his defenses ranked in the top 30 in total defense 7 times. In the five years he spent in the Big East all five of his defenses ranked in the top 30.
KSU has not had a defense ranked in the top 30 since 2003.
We have a basketball coach that absolutely, positively hit a player last year, but we are disgusted with the thought of hiring a football coach who "allegedly" slapped a player? A guy that feels so strongly that he is innocent that he is battling with the school in court?
Hypocrisy.
And worse. Stupidity.
His "hitting" a player has nothing to do with with me not wanting him as head coach. His losing Big East record does.
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While he was at USF he did have some very bigtime programs interested in him as a HC. (Bamax2, Miami). Like ChiCat said, I expect him to end up as a DC at some bigtime program or as the HC at a smaller name school. Tons of schools need HCs or DCs every year and I expect him to be on a lot of lists...
This seems to be a valid point. 3 years ago Nick Saban was not the Tide's first choice. Leavitt was.
And now the guy isn't good enough for KSU? He is "meh?"
you people are crazy.
Leavitt took a program from a trailer down by the river to a BCS conference. In the 9 years his school was in Div I his defenses ranked in the top 30 in total defense 7 times. In the five years he spent in the Big East all five of his defenses ranked in the top 30.
KSU has not had a defense ranked in the top 30 since 2003.
We have a basketball coach that absolutely, positively hit a player last year, but we are disgusted with the thought of hiring a football coach who "allegedly" slapped a player? A guy that feels so strongly that he is innocent that he is battling with the school in court?
Hypocrisy.
And worse. Stupidity.
His "hitting" a player has nothing to do with with me not wanting him as head coach. His losing Big East record does.
With Florida players no less.
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But maybe you're saying poor old KSU can't do any better than hiring a coach with a losing Big East record?
What scares me most is that you might be right!
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KU just hired a dude with a losing MAC record...
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KU just hired a dude with a losing MAC record...
and.....
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Slapped.
And the guy was almost .500 in the Big East. In five years.
If somebody took over Baylor five years ago and turned them into a .500 team (With Texas players no less) in the Big XII would you be impressed? Leavitt started from a lower point than that.
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So, a brand new football program starting from scratch with a losing record in the Big East is scaring you away from a coach that is better than anything KSU is capable of pulling in? Who the eff do you think is willing to come here?
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So, a brand new football program starting from scratch with a losing record in the Big East is scaring you away from a coach that is better than anything KSU is capable of pulling in? Who the eff do you think is willing to come here?
Any more on the dude from San Jose State (not with our team now)?
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I don't think gag has released any more on the subject... =Modz= =MODZ=?!?!?!?
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Slapped.
And the guy was almost .500 in the Big East. In five years.
If somebody took over Baylor five years ago and turned them into a .500 team (With Texas players) in the Big XII would you be impressed? He started from a lower point than that.
1) Big East .ne. Big12
2) Baylor play(ed)s in the Big 12 South
3) Almost turned them into a .500 team, but never had a conference season with less than 3 losses
But hey I guess (almost) .500 in the Big East is a big deal to you. Maybe some almost .500 coaches in the ACC or Mountain West would be an even better fit?
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So, a brand new football program starting from scratch with a losing record in the Big East is scaring you away from a coach that is better than anything KSU is capable of pulling in? Who the eff do you think is willing to come here?
He seems to me to have a low ceiling. If he couldn't get above .500 smack dab in the middle of recruits, in a weak Big East how will he do that in the much tougher newBig12? By your logic KU made an amazing hire since Buffalo was even worse off than USF!
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I think I made cripps leave for good. :dunno:
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
You're obviously a dumbass for thinking this is even close to a legitimate analogy.
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Actually, Buffalo was not worse off than USF. USF literally had no football program prior to Leavitt. He took them from no program to FCS to CUSA to the Big East and a #2 ranking in FBS in about ten years. That's pretty goddamn impressive. Look at other similar programs in FIU and FAU. Both have similar beginnings to USF yet both are still among the worst teams in the FBS. Hell, Shellenberger (sp?) started FAU's program and he couldn't do crap with it. How much success did that guy have with Miami? Leavitt is likely the best we could get and possibly better than we can get. Remember all those big name coaches that were supposedly interested in KU, only 2 years removed from an Orange Bowl win? Who did they end up with? What makes you people think that a Harbaugh or Tuberville type would choose us when those types scoffed at KU? But GP and Leach would totally take the KSU job, right? Buncha retards.
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
You're obviously a dumbass for thinking this is even close to a legitimate analogy.
thats right, because you grew up an hour and a half away from USF.
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Actually, Buffalo was not worse off than USF. USF literally had no football program prior to Leavitt. He took them from no program to FCS to CUSA to the Big East and a #2 ranking in FBS in about ten years. That's pretty goddamn impressive. Look at other similar programs in FIU and FAU. Both have similar beginnings to USF yet both are still among the worst teams in the FBS. Hell, Shellenberger (sp?) started FAU's program and he couldn't do crap with it. How much success did that guy have with Miami? Leavitt is likely the best we could get and possibly better than we can get. Remember all those big name coaches that were supposedly interested in KU, only 2 years removed from an Orange Bowl win? Who did they end up with? What makes you people think that a Harbaugh or Tuberville type would choose us when those types scoffed at KU? But GP and Leach would totally take the KSU job, right? Buncha retards.
Keep riding that #2 for week in September award for USF.
Is Jim Leavitt a good program builder? Yes insomuch as he will get you to (almost) .500. His program saturated at that point. Rapid rise to .500 and then wham nothing more. Might as well hire Dan McCarney, he's out of work right now and can do that too.
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
You're obviously a dumbass for thinking this is even close to a legitimate analogy.
thats right, because you grew up an hour and a half away from USF.
I don't care if you had sex with the entire city of Tampa, your analogy sucks.
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
You're obviously a dumbass for thinking this is even close to a legitimate analogy.
thats right, because you grew up an hour and a half away from USF.
I don't care if you had sex with the entire city of Tampa, your analogy sucks.
why because it makes your goEMAW retardness look all the more blatant? get the eff over yourself.
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I think starting a program at WSU might be a better analogy. USF is pretty big, sin't it? Helluva lot bigger than Washburn, anyway.
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http://www.lib.usf.edu/First50/USF_history.htm
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you guys obviously don't know crap about the dynamics of Universities in Florida. USF started as a rough ridin' commuter school. Imagine Washburn in the running for a bcs football program.
You're obviously a dumbass for thinking this is even close to a legitimate analogy.
thats right, because you grew up an hour and a half away from USF.
I don't care if you had sex with the entire city of Tampa, your analogy sucks.
why because it makes your goEMAW retardness look all the more blatant? get the eff over yourself.
I'm sorry this is upsetting you so much, but I'm sorry that Washburn (in Topeka KS) and South Florida (in Tampa FL) are vastly different places to build a football program.
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I think starting a program at WSU might be a better analogy. USF is pretty big, sin't it? Helluva lot bigger than Washburn, anyway.
Its bigger than KSU, and has been since the 80s.
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I don't think you're quite grasping the fact that every level he coached at USF was the first time that school had ever played at that level. How many new programs have winning records right off the bat at the FBS level? How about when teams move up to the BCS level? Do those teams typically have winning records and win bowl games in their first 3 years? No, they don't. That's why Bama wanted him so badly.