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Title: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 13, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
I hate to even mention this but Kellis' report today mentioned that Harper has been taking snaps @ QB in practice.  I imagine it was out of the wildcat but the article didn't specify.  Just thought that was interesting.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: OK_Cat on October 13, 2010, 04:30:44 PM
 :zzz:
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: DILLIGAF on October 13, 2010, 04:49:43 PM
On que Kellis decides to do some actual reporting of something happening now and he does so when we are going against his team, concerning what Bill has the guys doing in practice for that team.   Gotta love it.    :facepalm:
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: pencat on October 13, 2010, 04:49:54 PM
:zzz:

 :pbj:  :ksu:  :pbj:
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 13, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
Good, coaches, give it a shot now that we need him playing receiver.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 13, 2010, 04:57:21 PM
I have no doubt that if we fall down 17-3 we will see a QB change.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on October 13, 2010, 05:06:40 PM
I have no doubt that if we fall down 17-3 we will see a QB change.


Don't be on it.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 13, 2010, 05:16:55 PM
I figure, if OB was going to make a change at QB, it should have happened last Friday.  Just decide who will be your QB, let him have a week of prep as the starter, and see what happens when he is given a full game worth of snaps.  Unfortunately, I just described what happened with Coffman this week.  Pretty sure he's the man and we're stuck with him for the rest of the season.  Which probably speaks volumes about our other options at QB.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: pencat on October 13, 2010, 05:43:11 PM
I figure, if OB was going to make a change at QB, it should have happened last Friday.  Just decide who will be your QB, let him have a week of prep as the starter, and see what happens when he is given a full game worth of snaps.  Unfortunately, I just described what happened with Coffman this week.  Pretty sure he's the man and we're stuck with him for the rest of the season.  Which probably speaks volumes about our other options at QB.
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And also speaks volumes about the head coach.   :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: QuinnMac on October 13, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
On que Kellis decides to do some actual reporting of something happening now and he does so when we are going against his team, concerning what Bill has the guys doing in practice for that team.   Gotta love it.    :facepalm:
Exactly, this may actually be the first thing he has ever reported on his own.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: monumentcat on October 13, 2010, 06:47:09 PM
I hate to even mention this but Kellis' report today mentioned that Harper has been taking snaps @ QB in practice.  I imagine it was out of the wildcat but the article didn't specify.  Just thought that was interesting.

It was probably  SLamur.  Kellis is a KU guy so all black guys look the same to him  :opcat:
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 13, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
Go sam lamur!
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kougar24 on October 13, 2010, 07:25:59 PM
Good, coaches, give it a shot now that we need him playing receiver.

Your formatting confuses, me.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: ednksu on October 13, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can rough ridin' get him. 
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 13, 2010, 09:59:27 PM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 
exactly. I think He would be a better wildcat qb than thomas
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: Topcat09 on October 13, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
Why hasn't he been starting all year.  It's not like we ever pass the ball or anything!
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 13, 2010, 10:07:13 PM
Harper most likely wouldn't be better than DT in the wildcat.  We almost never throw out of the formation, so we may as well have the best ball carrier running the wildcat. 
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: Pittcat on October 13, 2010, 11:03:03 PM
Harper most likely wouldn't be better than DT in the wildcat.  We almost never throw out of the formation, so we may as well have the best ball carrier running the wildcat. 

You think there might be a reason we rarely let DT throw out of the wildcat?
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: Bill Grogans Goat on October 13, 2010, 11:20:02 PM
Harper most likely wouldn't be better than DT in the wildcat.  We almost never throw out of the formation, so we may as well have the best ball carrier running the wildcat. 

You think there might be a reason we rarely let DT throw out of the wildcat?

Saving our trickeration for Baylor.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: HeinBallz on October 13, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
Harper most likely wouldn't be better than DT in the wildcat.  We almost never throw out of the formation, so we may as well have the best ball carrier running the wildcat. 

You think there might be a reason we rarely let DT throw out of the wildcat?

we've clearly been saving that for when a top ten team comes to town during a nationwide ESPN broadcast.  
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: bradleigh on October 13, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can rough ridin' get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 13, 2010, 11:28:13 PM
Teams rarely throw out of the wildcat in general.  If they wanted to throw the ball, they wouldn't have their QB split wide while their) takes a direct snap.  And Harper wasn't much of a passer before his shoulder got mumped up, I kinda doubt his throwing ability has increased since then.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: ew2x4 on October 14, 2010, 12:51:43 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can rough ridin' get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

Considering we throw 7 times a game, do you really think anyone could come up with any resemblance of an accurate assessment?
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2010, 12:59:41 AM
We've given Harper the ball in several different ways and he yet to really do anything with it.  Maybe that's why he's not a starter for us, yet.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: swish1 on October 14, 2010, 02:35:58 AM
Teams rarely throw out of the wildcat in general.  If they wanted to throw the ball, they wouldn't have their QB split wide while their) takes a direct snap.  And Harper wasn't much of a passer before his shoulder got effed up, I kinda doubt his throwing ability has increased since then.

not every team splits the qb out wide when running the wildcat, some of them remove him from the game...
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2010, 02:42:23 AM
Removing the QB from the play entirely would be a bit silly, as it would tip your hand and allow the defense to adjust their look.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: catzacker on October 14, 2010, 06:32:19 AM
If the offensive set had Klein as the QB - split out, then Harper being the "wildcat" qb, it would provide a passing threat (harper) and a receiving threat (klein).  i'm actually surprised we haven't seen something like this.  at least get that f*cker on film.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: deputy dawg on October 14, 2010, 07:16:57 AM
Removing the QB from the play entirely would be a bit silly, as it would tip your hand and allow the defense to adjust their look.
Look at what you just wrote:  "removing the QB from the play entirely would be a bit silly"....does that apply to Coffman in a passing situation?
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2010, 07:23:26 AM
I tried my best but I still can't seem to decipher your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) language.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 14, 2010, 09:25:53 AM
If the offensive set had Klein as the QB - split out, then Harper being the "wildcat" qb, it would provide a passing threat (harper) and a receiving threat (klein).  i'm actually surprised we haven't seen something like this.  at least get that f*cker on film.

Pratice using this statement, it helps me.

"The reason we didn't (insert offensive set that makes ton of sense) is because Snyder didn't want to provide any film for the coach at (insert team on future part of schedule) to brek down and create a scheme to defeat.  He is very careful and smart."
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: ew2x4 on October 14, 2010, 09:49:20 AM
We've given Harper the ball in several different ways and he yet to really do anything with it.  Maybe that's why he's not a starter for us, yet.

You just described 21 of our starters, with that first sentence.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: ednksu on October 14, 2010, 09:55:51 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can rough ridin' get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?
I've been happy when ever we get the ball in his hands.  I've been extremely disappointed with how much we get him the ball.  I don't recall a bad play he has made.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 14, 2010, 10:15:25 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can rough ridin' get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2010, 10:22:59 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 14, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
(his only catch?)

Also caught the TD.

The only thing Chris has done "wrong" this season was underestimate a tackler on a reverse in the 3rd quarter against UCF.

That's it.

I'm glad he should be used more now. Maybe it will clear the coaches' minds a little.

Remind them of how football is played.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kougar24 on October 14, 2010, 10:36:11 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him.  

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kso_FAN on October 14, 2010, 10:37:29 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kougar24 on October 14, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.

YES HE IS.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 14, 2010, 10:41:40 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.

He really is.  I don't think I've seen him hit the receiver in stride yet.  His best passes (10+ yards down the field) the receiver has to adjust a lot to catch them.  I honestly don't think he can throw any better than me.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: MadCat on October 14, 2010, 10:47:03 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.

He really is.  I don't think I've seen him hit the receiver in stride yet.  His best passes (10+ yards down the field) the receiver has to adjust a lot to catch them.  I honestly don't think he can throw any better than me.
He can take a sack better than me.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 14, 2010, 11:37:48 AM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.

He really is.  I don't think I've seen him hit the receiver in stride yet.  His best passes (10+ yards down the field) the receiver has to adjust a lot to catch them.  I honestly don't think he can throw any better than me.
He can take a sack better than me.

Listen, as mentioned before - REAL MEN take the sack! Queso is no FP, TC etc, OK?
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 14, 2010, 01:29:29 PM
We've given Harper the ball in several different ways and he yet to really do anything with it.  Maybe that's why he's not a starter for us, yet.
Ive seen him touch the ball 5 times maybe.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: bleedpurple on October 14, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.

Gregory was better than Coffman... and Gregory was not Big 12 QB quality.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 14, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
I will take harper on the field with ball in his hands where ever i can effing get him. 

Have you been impressed with him this season?

He was about a foot away from breaking a long one on one of his catches last thursday.  (his only catch?)

He'll should get many more chances to prove himself tonight with Smith out.  Quarles will likely be the guy Coffman looks to first in Smith's absense, but Harper will get multiple touches.

With CarsCoff throwing him the ball? He may get several targets, but if the ball gets close enough for him to actually touch it multiple times, I'll be very surprised.

Coffman is far from great, but he's not nearly as bad as most make him out to be.  Really.
HE is horrible. I dont see anything that tells me he is a legit d1 qb. He has to be one of the worst we've had. Hell i would take Dylan Meir over Carson.. Dead or Alive.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 14, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Carson is without a doubt the worst starting QB in  either Snyder era.  Did anyone else see Lou Laf's qb Friday night against OSU?  He's twice the QB CCQ is.  How is that even possible?  There has to be a KS HS kid on campus that can sling it around better than Alfred E Newman.
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: kougar24 on October 14, 2010, 03:04:27 PM
Carson is without a doubt the worst starting QB in  either Snyder era.  Did anyone else see Lou Laf's qb Friday night against OSU?  He's twice the QB CCQ is.  How is that even possible?  There has to be a KS HS kid on campus that can sling it around better than Alfred E Newman.

Jason Smargiasso just said "YESSSS!"
Title: Re: Harper @ QB?
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 14, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
Carson is without a doubt the worst starting QB in  either Snyder era.  Did anyone else see Lou Laf's qb Friday night against OSU?  He's twice the QB CCQ is.  How is that even possible?  There has to be a KS HS kid on campus that can sling it around better than Alfred E Newman.

Jason Smargiasso just said "YESSSS!"

He already knew he was better than queso.