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Title: TN
Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
TN self imposes year long off campus recruiting ban on Pearl  :surprised:
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2010, 02:46:05 PM
What was the violation?
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Post by: doom on September 10, 2010, 02:55:01 PM
TN self imposes year long off campus recruiting ban on Pearl  :surprised:

 :surprised:
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Post by: CNS on September 10, 2010, 02:57:39 PM
TN self imposes year long off campus recruiting ban on Pearl  :surprised:

 :surprised:

Whatever happened must have been really bad.  Imposing that on yourself is insane, but TN must think it is better than what the NCAA would do.
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Post by: TBL on September 10, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
Must have been caught cornholing the President's daughter.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 10, 2010, 03:06:27 PM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:
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Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2010, 03:08:40 PM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

 yep, was just going to say someting about that
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Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 10, 2010, 03:27:40 PM
if Pearl costs ku Selby does that make up for the mean things they said to us regarding Bryce?
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Post by: EllToPay on September 10, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

 yep, was just going to say someting about that

sure you were, fitz.
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Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2010, 03:32:25 PM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

 yep, was just going to say someting about that

sure you were, fitz.

I was told to keep it under wraps until 15 posts into the thread
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Post by: Pete on September 10, 2010, 03:49:10 PM

if Pearl costs ku Selby does that make up for the mean things they said to us regarding Bryce?

Even Steven.
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Post by: jtksu on September 10, 2010, 04:36:28 PM
ESPN is also saying Pearl will forfeit 1.5 mil in salary over the next 5 years.  Maybe I'm just ill-informed but I don't remember a coach ever getting punished like that before.
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Post by: jmlynch1 on September 10, 2010, 04:42:04 PM
I'm hearing Selby implicatos
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Post by: jtksu on September 10, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
Damn, now they're saying 2 mil.  WTF did he do?
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 10, 2010, 05:04:15 PM
excessive contact with recruits, and the worse part, trying to cover it up when questioned by NCAA.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 10, 2010, 08:03:56 PM
Love ya oscar.
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Post by: jtksu on September 10, 2010, 08:34:48 PM
Gotta be worse that was has been reported so far.  Exessive contact is nothing.  Lying to the NCAA sounds bad but I would assume lots of people lie, at least initially, when approached about possible violations.  I just can't imagine that being worth 5 years and 2 mil.
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Post by: steve dave on September 10, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
Dez Bryant had to sit an entire season for barely lying to the NCAA :dunno:
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Post by: jtksu on September 10, 2010, 09:13:44 PM
That WR from Georgia got 4 games for selling an agent a jersey for a grand.  It's not unusual to see players get punished harshly but coaches usually get nothing more than a slap on the wrist.  :dunno:  Just seems like the most severe punishment I've seen a coach receive.  At least that I can recall, anyway.  2 mil is a lot of dough, even for a dude that makes a lot of dough.
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Post by: sys on September 10, 2010, 09:22:14 PM
1.5 mill is correct.  an additional .5 million is delayed 5 years.


i can't recall a financial penalty for a coach either, other than being fired.  good for utenn though, punish the coach and reward yourself.
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Post by: ksudrew on September 10, 2010, 10:46:37 PM
Must have been caught cornholing the President's daughter.

climbed mt. summit
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Post by: jtksu on September 10, 2010, 10:48:23 PM
That's just nasty.
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Post by: smith1051 on September 11, 2010, 02:27:35 AM
Dirty
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Post by: raquetcat on September 13, 2010, 07:57:25 PM
didn't we almost try hiring pearl at one point, but then hired huggins instead, can anyone confirm/deny?
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Post by: Pete on September 13, 2010, 08:14:57 PM
didn't we almost try hiring pearl at one point, but then hired huggins instead, can anyone confirm/deny?

Weiser wanted to hire Pearl before Wooly's last year, but Weef's stepped in and gave Wooly an extra year.
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Post by: Skipper44 on September 13, 2010, 08:52:35 PM
Aye, I believe Pearl was Tim's 1st choice had the Weefer not stepped in after the 2005 NIT snub.  Pearl was still at UW-Mil at that time.
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Post by: sys on September 14, 2010, 06:56:04 PM
Quote
He is one of our family members, and we stand with him and his family at this point in time.

tremendously reassuring to the ut staff, undoubtedly.


http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13947411/sources-exrecruit-craft-at-center-of-further-pearltennessee-ncaa-probe
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Post by: jtksu on September 14, 2010, 08:41:40 PM
Quote
He is one of our family members, and we stand with him and his family at this point in time.

tremendously reassuring to the ut staff, undoubtedly.


http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/13947411/sources-exrecruit-craft-at-center-of-further-pearltennessee-ncaa-probe

It all sounded good til the AD dropped that bomb at the end.
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Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on September 15, 2010, 08:10:56 AM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

Has nothing to do with this.

This involves lying to NCAA investigators regarding call numbers, entertaining recruits at Pearls house on unofficials among other serious issues.

Its going to get worse for UT before it gets better.
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Post by: kitten_mittons on September 15, 2010, 08:42:55 AM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

Has nothing to do with this.

This involves lying to NCAA investigators regarding call numbers, entertaining recruits at Pearls house on unofficials among other serious issues.

Its going to get worse for UT before it gets better.

So do you, in your expert opinion, believe this will hurt them in the long run?
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 15, 2010, 08:46:25 AM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

Has nothing to do with this.

This involves lying to NCAA investigators regarding call numbers, entertaining recruits at Pearls house on unofficials among other serious issues.

Its going to get worse for UT before it gets better.

Selby was one of the recruits that Pearl entertained at his house, if you would have read the article that was posted.
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Post by: CNS on September 15, 2010, 08:56:38 AM
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Don't know about you guys, but I really like oscar Pearl and I bet he could entertain the crap out of recruits.
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Post by: Skipper44 on September 15, 2010, 10:27:21 AM
If you can't take a recruits to you home, how about you take them out on your

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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 15, 2010, 10:30:35 AM
Iowa State would fire his ass for photos like those. I guess that's why Tennessee will stay relevant in athletics while Iowa State will continue to find MVC coaches.
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Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on September 16, 2010, 02:20:11 PM
Tennessee is one of the 3 schools Kent Sterling said were under investigation for the recruitment of Selby. :surprised:

Has nothing to do with this.

This involves lying to NCAA investigators regarding call numbers, entertaining recruits at Pearls house on unofficials among other serious issues.

Its going to get worse for UT before it gets better.

Selby was one of the recruits that Pearl entertained at his house, if you would have read the article that was posted.

YEah but who was there has nothing to do with him lying to the investigators, entertaining them was a minor violation, lying was serious.
Title: Re: TN
Post by: goldenticket on September 17, 2010, 08:55:08 AM
Tennessee cannot terminate coach oscar Pearl for cause without paying him until there is an NCAA "finding" and, even then, it has to be determined Pearl knowingly engaged in conduct that was a "significant" NCAA violation.

A review of Pearl's contract by an attorney familiar with these types of cases showed the specific termination clauses that protect Pearl despite his admission he misled NCAA investigators while they were pursuing allegations of recruiting violations. The contract examined had the salary amended in 2009 to increase Pearl's salary to $1.9 million a year and extended a year through the 2014-15 season.

more at http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5582439
Title: Re: TN
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 09:24:36 AM
Why would TN want to fire Pearl?
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Post by: CNS on September 17, 2010, 09:32:43 AM
Why would TN want to fire Pearl?

Agreed.

He took it to KU with half his team on the bench and a couple guys that walked on something like 6 days before the game.

TN should be excited that they have a coach that can do what Pearl does while walking such a fine line of adorable and creepy.

oscar is a hero.
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Post by: goldenticket on November 19, 2010, 11:18:21 AM
http://gary-parrish.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/25927735

The SEC is expected to soon announce that Tennessee coach oscar Pearl will be suspended for this season's first eight league games as punishment for admitted NCAA rules violations, multiple sources with knowledge of the situation told CBSSports.com on Friday.

An attempt to reach Pearl for comment wasn't immediately successful.

Pearl's future has been uncertain since athletic director Mike Hamilton held a press conference in September to tell reporters that the school's men's basketball program is being investigated by the NCAA. Pearl has since confirmed a CBSSports.com report that detailed how he illegally hosted recruits at his house in 2008 and subsequently misled investigators about it. His contract has been voided, but he's expected to sign a new agreement with Tennessee in the coming months, if not weeks. The school will likely get a notice of allegations from the NCAA sometime in 2011
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Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 01:04:13 PM
Weird thing about that suspension-  TN plays UConn on January 20, in the middle of the investigation.  Pearl will be allowed to coach that game as his suspension only covers conference games.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 19, 2010, 01:05:21 PM
Weird thing about that suspension-  TN plays UConn on January 20, in the middle of the investigation.  Pearl will be allowed to coach that game as his suspension only covers conference games.

Well, the suspension was handed down by the SEC, not the NCAA, so this makes sense.
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Post by: jtksu on November 19, 2010, 01:05:47 PM
Sorry- I meant "in the middle of the suspension."