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Josh Selby 6'3 PG Kansas Fr. -- He's a talent, but he's still incredibly wild and makes tons of mistakes when asked to run the team. His shooting was decent but shot selection needs improvement. He makes things difficult on himself taking a lot of contested shots falling away. When he stays under control and uses good ball fakes, he's very difficult to contain. An elite level athlete, he had a number of plays where he showed his great potential, but he's got a ways to go. When Jrue Holiday played on day 2 and guarded Selby, he completely shut him down. Selby is a talent and college should be a great experience for him to mature both socially and as a point guard. Hopefully he's not in a huge rush to turn pro because point guard is the position which requires the most development. If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard. Otherwise, he may end up falling short of his full abilities. He does have the uncertainty of his eligibility looming over him and it was likely on his mind and could have affected his performance some.
Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010-adidas-nations-recap
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Perry Jones 6'10 Baylor Fr. -- Easily the most talented NCAA player and improved as the event went on. Struggled the first day in creating baskets and settled for finding teammates. His abilities for a 6-10 kid are obscene as he's got handle and passing ability plus great foot speed to take players off the dribble. As the event went on he got more comfortable and began to take over, putting up 19 points on the final day. He had some jaw dropping dunks and looked very comfortable with the ball in his hands. Inconsistency was his major problem in high school so showing that he can play to his abilities on a consistent basis needs to be his focus this year. If anyone has a chance to grab the #1 pick away from Harrison Barnes, it's Perry Jones.
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taylor is what he is. selby will be v. good. if he can't run point, they'll just put him off ball. like collins his 1st couple years.
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Perry Jones 6'10 Baylor Fr. -- Easily the most talented NCAA player and improved as the event went on. Struggled the first day in creating baskets and settled for finding teammates. His abilities for a 6-10 kid are obscene as he's got handle and passing ability plus great foot speed to take players off the dribble. As the event went on he got more comfortable and began to take over, putting up 19 points on the final day. He had some jaw dropping dunks and looked very comfortable with the ball in his hands. Inconsistency was his major problem in high school so showing that he can play to his abilities on a consistent basis needs to be his focus this year. If anyone has a chance to grab the #1 pick away from Harrison Barnes, it's Perry Jones.
:curse:
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Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
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Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
yes
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Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
lol
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Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.
_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.
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Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.
_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.
Developing players slowly...its was Self does best. Maybe Frank took some notes from Self in regards to how to handle Wally?
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Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.
_33, please add this to the "Bill Self, You Disgust Me" video. TIA.
Developing players slowly...its was Self does best. Maybe Frank took some notes from Self in regards to how to handle Wally?
Wally was the 6th rated power forward. Not quite the 2nd coming of Beasus Christ. We probably expect too much of him, but not the way hawktards do with TT. Watching him continue to not improve will be my fav part of ku's team this year.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
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KU's big men are tearing it up:
Marcus Morris 6'9 Kansas Jr. -- The Morris Twins both impressed using their experience and versatility to score. Marcus struggled early with his shooting, missing a number of outside jumpers and it appeared he was forcing it a little to show that he has range. He settled into a groove as the week went a long and by day 3 was one of the standouts. His ability to take the ball off the dribble, play in the post and knock down 15-18 foot jump shots makes him extremely versatile. He's the better shooter of the two which explains why he's been given a bigger role in KU's offense. The twins actually looked extremely similar all around. Despite measuring 6-7 wingspans, these guys have a lot of skills and should make a strong run at being first rounders in the next 2 years.
Markief Morris 6'9 PF Kansas Jr. -- Markieff actually looked more impressive early on than his more decorated twin Marcus. "Kief" as the other "counselors" called him appears to be the more out going of the twins. He would probably benefit by having a year at Kansas with his brother not there as it's tough for both of them to get touches and attention they deserve since they're so similar. Kief's skill level is not very far behind his bothers and he might actually be the more explosive athlete.
Thomas Robinson 6'8 Kansas So. -- Thomas played well and appears to have bulked up considerably. He's a specimen with such huge arms and hands and has packed on a lot of strength in his shoulders. He's a load to contain and was a force inside. Scouts however remain lukewarm on him. He doesn't show much yet in the way of an offensive game getting most of his baskets on dunks and put backs. He needs to improve his footwork inside and develop a better mid range jump shot. At 6-8, he's a little undersized for the PF position.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
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in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
symbolizes taylor's career? :dunno:
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
I'm guessing Selby is a better driver on & off the court.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season. How many players did Frank have drafted? TIA.
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KU's big men are tearing it up:
Thomas Robinson 6'8 Kansas So. -- Thomas played well and appears to have bulked up considerably. He's a specimen with such huge arms and hands and has packed on a lot of strength in his shoulders. He's a load to contain and was a force inside. Scouts however remain lukewarm on him. He doesn't show much yet in the way of an offensive game getting most of his baskets on dunks and put backs. He needs to improve his footwork inside and develop a better mid range jump shot. At 6-8, he's a little undersized for the PF position.
TEARING IT UP!
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in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.
wtf?
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season. How many players did Frank have drafted? TIA.
UNI. :facepalm:
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season. How many players did Frank have drafted? TIA.
UNI. :facepalm:
ku went 33-3, won the Big 12, was ranked #1 for the majority of the year, and swept K-State and Mizzou.
:flush:
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Remember a year ago when some obscure writer said Taylor was a lottery pick how moonbeams accepted it as a matter of fact, with the full faith and conviction of a suicide bomber in waiting everlasting oasis paradise filled with willing virgins?
That dolt still believes that as a matter of fact. Taylor's banked half of his career three pointers for god sakes.
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in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.
wtf?
my point was muddled by too many words. my point is this, i don't think perry jones will not be as good as his freshman predecessors michael beasley and kevin durant. he is not as good a shooter as durant and is not as thick as beasley, but relies more on the wing. i could be completely wrong, but i just don't think perry is that damn good.
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in regards to perry, i think he is talented, but how much impact can he have in the college game. I think he will score, but the college game is predicated on team basketball, while the nba relies heavily on isolation and one-on-one moves. perry's game is much more suited for the league than college. i just don't know how much impact he can have on the perimeter which is where he seems to thrive.
wtf?
my point was muddled by too many words. my point is this, i don't think perry jones will not be as good as his freshman predecessors michael beasley and kevin durant. he is not as good a shooter as durant and is not as thick as beasley, but relies more on the wing. i could be completely wrong, but i just don't think perry is that damn good.
Still too many words.
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my point was muddled by too many words....
oh. i forgot jones even got mentioned.
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Josh Selby 6'3 PG Kansas Fr. -- He's a talent, but he's still incredibly wild and makes tons of mistakes when asked to run the team. His shooting was decent but shot selection needs improvement. He makes things difficult on himself taking a lot of contested shots falling away. When he stays under control and uses good ball fakes, he's very difficult to contain. An elite level athlete, he had a number of plays where he showed his great potential, but he's got a ways to go. When Jrue Holiday played on day 2 and guarded Selby, he completely shut him down. Selby is a talent and college should be a great experience for him to mature both socially and as a point guard. Hopefully he's not in a huge rush to turn pro because Bill "My Players Underachieve in the League" Self is my coach. If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard. Otherwise, he may end up falling short of his full abilities. He does have the uncertainty of his eligibility looming over him and it was likely on his mind and could have affected his performance some.
Tyshawn Taylor 6'3 SG Kansas Jr. -- Taylor had a rough week and doesn't appear to have developed much since arriving at Kansas. He was once hyped by some as a potential first round pick, but doesn't appear to have a true position or the decision making to be an NBA player. "Why does he even bother shooting?" was the line one scout had after an illadvised shot. He's a tremendous athlete who should be able to play overseas as a 2-guard but he still needs to polish his shooting ability and ball protection.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010-adidas-nations-recap
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Selby hasn't even played a game at ku and he went from 1 and done to a 3 year guy. Nice Bill.
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Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.
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what exactly is the difference between taylor and selby? :dunno:
:facepalm:
Selby hasn't had his potential whipped out of him yet. Right now he stands to have almost as great of an impact as TROB.
Self had two guys taken in the NBA lottery last season. How many players did Frank have drafted? TIA.
UNI. :facepalm:
ku went 33-3, won the Big 12, was ranked #1 for the majority of the year, and swept K-State and Mizzou.
:flush:
BMW thanks you for taking care of that before he had to get on here and do that. Awfully nice of you to do that for him.
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Does KU get a banner for all that stuff or seperate banners for each accomplishment?
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Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.
You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus. God bless powerespect nation. Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
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Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.
You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus. God bless powerespect nation. Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
I thought he came back to win another championship?
:confused:
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
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You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season...
Ya, I am guilty of this. Mistakes were made during my evaluation process.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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What was his degree again . . . like construction paper science or something??
I just remember laughing when I saw his and Tebow's major on the Academic All-American list . . . next to guys majoring in Finance, Economics, Engineering and Physics.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Nobody's saying he's more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than his deadbeat family.
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I am observing an immense amount of anger and lashing out of late from the Tardville contingent on various K-State forums.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
A) He still would have been the first 10 years later when he went back for his degree if he decided he wanted it
B) He would have gone much higher in the draft had he left the year before. NBA ready or not he cost himself not just an entire season of playing time but a lot of annual salary out of the gates
C) Anyone who says "I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on" anything is wrong
Just an awful decision every way you look at it.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
A) He still would have been the first 10 years later when he went back for his degree if he decided he wanted it
B) He would have gone much higher in the draft had he left the year before. NBA ready or not he cost himself not just an entire season of playing time but a lot of annual salary out of the gates
C) Anyone who says "I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on" anything is wrong
Just an ignorant decision every way you look at it.
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A) Going back 10 years later isn't the same.
B) Aldrich might have been drafted a few spots higher the year before, but he was still a lottery pick (#11 overall).
C) Put a monetary value on the extinction of wolves.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Being the smartest Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) in your Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) family doesn't make you a fracking Rhode Scholar.
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C) Put a monetary value on the extinction of wolves.
$740,000
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I think we can put this to bed by agreeing on the following.
- Cole was better than we thought he would be
- Cole made a bad decision by coming back last year
Mods, lock this sucker up please.
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Only Bill could a dude rated that high and turn him into a potential lottery pick 3 years down the road.
You guys made fun of Aldrich non-stop his freshman season... now you're making it out like he was a surefire NBA lottery pick from the second he stepped foot on KU's campus. God bless powerespect nation. Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
I was referring to Selby, who I believe was the top rated high school player in the nation.
If he gives it some time in college (2-3 years), he'll have a chance to develop into a lottery level point guard.
Who was the last guy rated #1 that didn't go lottery after his freshman year?
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was in lawrence yesterday, no sign of selby.. perhaps he decided to forgo his time @ KU?
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was in lawrence yesterday, no sign of selby.. perhaps he decided to forgo his time @ KU?
Maybe he's still at David Busters?
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i liked aldrich his freshmen year.
was pretty far off on pullen, never thought he'd be near as good as he became.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
A) He still would have been the first 10 years later when he went back for his degree if he decided he wanted it
B) He would have gone much higher in the draft had he left the year before. NBA ready or not he cost himself not just an entire season of playing time but a lot of annual salary out of the gates
C) Anyone who says "I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on" anything is wrong
Just an ignorant decision every way you look at it.
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A) Going back 10 years later isn't the same.
B) Aldrich might have been drafted a few spots higher the year before, but he was still a lottery pick (#11 overall).
C) Put a monetary value on the extinction of wolves.
When you're a lottery pick you can pretty much put a price on anything, especially the extinction of wolves. Did he not learn about the time value of money or is that a concept reserved for grad level work at KU? So basically Cole a.) Made his family wait one more year for millions of dolars and b.) still doesn't have a college degree.
Nice one Cole....but it's not your fault you're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), blame genetics on that.
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rumblings that Shelby is headed to Europe for major payday
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i liked aldrich his freshmen year.
was pretty far off on pullen, never thought he'd be near as good as he became.
Aldrich looked decent in limited time as a frosh, Pullen looked okay while playing starters minutes. I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
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i liked aldrich his freshmen year.
was pretty far off on pullen, never thought he'd be near as good as he became.
i noticed cole aldrich was a defensive monster near the end of his freshman year
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I was so infatuated with Michael Beasley and Bill Walker that I never even pretended to pay attention to Cole
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I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
that's about where i was.
to be fair to me, though. there was a lot of anti-aldrich and pro-pullen sentiment going around on kstate boards that year. taking contrarian positions was all but inevitable.
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I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
that's about where i was.
to be fair to me, though. there was a lot of anti-aldrich and pro-pullen sentiment going around on kstate boards that year. taking contrarian positions was all but inevitable.
A lot of that was just the fan in people hyping Pullen and talking crap to the KU fans about Aldrich. If anyone saw Pullen and honestly thought he would be a POY/AA candidate, well, they're much better at evaluating talent than I am. I used to talk crap on Aldrich all the time (including last year) but I never actually thought the kid wasn't good, sometimes it's just fun to mess with people. Especially the jayhawk fans who hype every recruit as a the-next-coming of ..... type of player.
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I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
that's about where i was.
to be fair to me, though. there was a lot of anti-aldrich and pro-pullen sentiment going around on kstate boards that year. taking contrarian positions was all but inevitable.
A lot of that was just the fan in people hyping Pullen and talking crap to the KU fans about Aldrich. If anyone saw Pullen and honestly thought he would be a POY/AA candidate, well, they're much better at evaluating talent than I am. I used to talk crap on Aldrich all the time (including last year) but I never actually thought the kid wasn't good, sometimes it's just fun to mess with people. Especially the jayhawk fans who hype every recruit as a the-next-coming of ..... type of player.
You guys do the exact same thing, you just don't realize it. Wally Judge's freshman season was almost a mirror image of Aldrich's.
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I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
that's about where i was.
to be fair to me, though. there was a lot of anti-aldrich and pro-pullen sentiment going around on kstate boards that year. taking contrarian positions was all but inevitable.
A lot of that was just the fan in people hyping Pullen and talking crap to the KU fans about Aldrich. If anyone saw Pullen and honestly thought he would be a POY/AA candidate, well, they're much better at evaluating talent than I am. I used to talk crap on Aldrich all the time (including last year) but I never actually thought the kid wasn't good, sometimes it's just fun to mess with people. Especially the jayhawk fans who hype every recruit as a the-next-coming of ..... type of player.
You guys do the exact same thing, you just don't realize it. Wally Judge's freshman season was almost a mirror image of Aldrich's.
Welcome to the internets
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How did Tyshawn make bail?
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Cole was THE reason that the Cats couldn't beat the hawks the last couple of seasons. We had no answer for his inside defense.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
You forgot to mention that he was selected for the Anschutz Library Reading program (along with Sparkles)...interesting that out of all the football and basketball players uk pix 2 white guys to represent both teams.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
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Fantastic post, and dead accurate.
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
This statement is complete bullsh*t. Is that why he was like the 4th center taken? He f*cked himself by not going a year earlier, he can't execute an offensive move without traveling and any "degree" he earned at uk in 3 years has a monetary value of about $69. Not to mention missing out on some much needed Delta Dental.
Cost Benefit analysis: $69 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< $15,000,000 (wild guess at TVM one years earnings plus lost comp from sliding in draft)
LoL at college experience as uk bball player. It's hard to put a value on a year of weed, hoes, battery, abortions, grand theft auto, and litany petty misdemeanors.
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Aldrich was picked to go much higher in the draft last year, and his draft stock fell some by staying at ku. I don't think any reasonable person would argue otherwise. That decision cost him millions of dollars, and probably a year of playing time. It's that simple. There's a picture of Aldrich humping a goat floating around the athletic complex at ku, that's the only reasonable explanation for him coming back.
As to the "finishing his degree" nonsense, Aldrich will do what all ku athletes do when they wash up....move to Lawrence to re-live their glory years and get undeserved adoration from the same rubes that think Lew Perkins walks on water.
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it's amazing Cole was drafted so high with the attempts of those of us out here to the West trying to burn the program to the ground. we must burn harder next time :curse:
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Oh, and by the way, Aldrich could have left after his sophomore season, but he chose to come back and work towards getting his degree.
If that is true Cole is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than he appears (which is already very Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Cole was the Academic All-American of the Year last season, and will be the first member of family to earn a college degree. I'd say that's pretty f*cking far from Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
No, it's the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing he could have done. His family were poor losers and he has the rest of his life to get a degree. He took away one of the few years of gainful employment he (or probably anyone in his weirdo family) are going to have by doing so. There was absolutely no benefit to him and a crap load of detriment. The opportunity cost was off the charts. Weren't you an Econ major?
Sure, Aldrich could have started collecting an NBA paycheck a year earlier, but that's not what life is all about. You only have the opportunity to enjoy the college experience as a KU basketball player once. Also, I don't know if you can really put a monetary value on being the first person in your family to earn a college degree. Thanks to an extra year at KU, Aldrich entered the NBA draft as one of the most polished and NBA-ready players in the entire rookie class.
You are F#cking high. He isnt even closed to polished, every description you hear from any nonretard that evaluates NBA talent is that he isnt very polished but that his upside is appealing.
Oh and NBA ready???WTF
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If Cole benefited so much from the extra years of college, just think what it has done with Morningstar.
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I always figured Aldrich would end up about where he did. Pullen... I was just hoping he would progress into a solid Big 12 PG.
that's about where i was.
to be fair to me, though. there was a lot of anti-aldrich and pro-pullen sentiment going around on kstate boards that year. taking contrarian positions was all but inevitable.
A lot of that was just the fan in people hyping Pullen and talking crap to the KU fans about Aldrich. If anyone saw Pullen and honestly thought he would be a POY/AA candidate, well, they're much better at evaluating talent than I am. I used to talk crap on Aldrich all the time (including last year) but I never actually thought the kid wasn't good, sometimes it's just fun to mess with people. Especially the jayhawk fans who hype every recruit as a the-next-coming of ..... type of player.
You guys do the exact same thing, you just don't realize it. Wally Judge's freshman season was almost a mirror image of Aldrich's.
cept Wally dances better and had a broken neck from hitting his head on the rim.
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Let's hope it was a dental degree. Yikes.
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Ksu_foo; post of the week? Mods?!
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The list continues to grow, who's next massa self? You evil son of a bitch
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cole will always have the memories of flaming out in the 2nd round to UNI. can't put a monetary value on that.