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Title: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 07, 2010, 12:31:30 AM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.

Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Trim on July 07, 2010, 12:33:10 AM
My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.

Describe better both your simple haircut and the ways it's been screwed up.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 07, 2010, 12:45:52 AM
I know what you're saying.  My head is basically shave with a 2 all round, with tapering at the edges.  EZ Peezy.  Nope, had my hair jacked up 6 ways from Sunday on multiple occassions.  That's why I've been going to the same barber for like 4 years.  I can barely understand her, but she is pretty BA.  Even trims the ol eyebrows when needed.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Cire on July 07, 2010, 12:50:26 AM
if it's all guard, why are you paying someone else to do it?
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 07, 2010, 12:53:21 AM
Can't taper and can't do the neck/hair line.  Believe me, I have a badass set of clippers that have been used once.  Once.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Cire on July 07, 2010, 01:04:55 AM
Can't taper and can't do the neck/hair line.  Believe me, I have a badass set of clippers that have been used once.  Once.

just takes practice.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: DQ12 on July 07, 2010, 01:06:04 AM
I just give myself a 'cut and then ask my buddy Q if he'll come in and shave the back of my neck for me.  

In return I have to shave Q's back...

 :comehere:
"Come here and shave my back Dlew"

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 07, 2010, 01:10:58 AM
I may or may not be able to do it on my own.  However, I find getting my haircut relaxing, so I don't mind throwing down some bucks every two weeks.  Her rates are stupid cheap anyway.  Plus, I like when her little asian ass gives me a happy ending.  (Trims my eyebrows)
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2010, 02:46:52 AM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: tdaver on July 07, 2010, 03:36:56 AM
no guard, once a week, haven't seen a barber in years, saved tons of $   :grin: 
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: KITNfury on July 07, 2010, 07:48:29 AM
I cut my own hair. It's the first step to living off the grid.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 07, 2010, 07:54:37 AM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.

Roger or Dylan at Campus Hair Styling are both great. Roger is one of the most EMAW old guys you'll ever meet.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Kat Kid on July 07, 2010, 07:59:16 AM
Campus is good peeps.  I think that Phil the barber is pretty GPC but if he isn't a piece of EMAWrica then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2010, 08:01:20 AM
Procuts every other thursday.  They make up for being kind of crappy by being 5 blocks away. 
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Jeffy on July 07, 2010, 08:21:44 AM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.

Roger or Dylan at Campus Hair Styling are both great. Roger is one of the most EMAW old guys you'll ever meet.

Yup... Roger.

Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: mcmwcat on July 07, 2010, 09:12:15 AM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



roger @ campus
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j rake on July 07, 2010, 09:15:55 AM
Do NOT go to Roger. He'll talk your face off. He's like a lawyer, always asking questions he knows the answer to. His stories are brutal. You'll be stuck in that chair for an hour for a 10-minute cut.

And my god, he'll say "thank you" 100 times.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: kso_FAN on July 07, 2010, 10:11:20 AM
I don't know about good barbers now, but Newell was the best about 15-20 years ago.  RIP Newell.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Pittcat on July 07, 2010, 10:22:08 AM
This is gonna sound bad, but seriously.  Go to Junction City.  Find a barber shop on the north end that's ran by a little Asian gal.  (there's a few around)  Spend five bucks and you'll get the best, fastest haircut you've ever had, all capped off with a massage. (shoulders and neck) 

Plus if you're a clippers guy, they typically use those vacuum clipper things so when you're done, there's no itchy neck.   :excited:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 07, 2010, 10:27:26 AM
Plus if you're a clippers guy, they typically use those vacuum clipper things so when you're done, there's no itchy neck.   :excited:

They do this at Campus Hair Style too, FWIW.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 07, 2010, 12:47:40 PM
Kevin who is in the 'Aggie hair shapers' building but is his own separate business.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 07, 2010, 01:57:37 PM
Kevin who is in the 'Aggie hair shapers' building but is his own separate business.

Kevin is the king, he offered my buddies and I a free hot tub...  :pbj:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: OK_Cat on July 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
Procuts every other thursday.  They make up for being kind of crappy by being 5 blocks away. 

same, except friday @ lunch.  mine's only 2 blocks away  :gocho:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Dr.Spaceman on July 07, 2010, 03:56:23 PM
Ira Haynes (right next to Rock-a-belly) FTW!
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2010, 03:57:05 PM
Procuts every other thursday.  They make up for being kind of crappy by being 5 blocks away.  

same, except friday @ lunch.  mine's only 2 blocks away  :gocho:
procuts :lol:  more like justgotoutofbeautyschoolcuts
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: OK_Cat on July 07, 2010, 03:59:19 PM
Procuts every other thursday.  They make up for being kind of crappy by being 5 blocks away.  

same, except friday @ lunch.  mine's only 2 blocks away  :gocho:
procuts :lol:  more like justgotoutofbeautyschoolcuts

more like onlycost$5andisfastcuts

boom
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 07, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
Cheap and fast are not usually things I want associated with my personal appearance.  A bad haircut really fucks up your flow.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: OK_Cat on July 07, 2010, 04:10:01 PM
not when you shave your head, bro.  can't really screw that up, unless they take an ear off or something.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2010, 04:19:01 PM
Procuts every other thursday.  They make up for being kind of crappy by being 5 blocks away. 

same, except friday @ lunch.  mine's only 2 blocks away  :gocho:
procuts :lol:  more like justgotoutofbeautyschoolcuts

more like onlycost$5andisfastcuts

boom
more like iwishicouldchargemorethan$5butsucksoicantcuts
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: ew2x4 on July 07, 2010, 04:46:54 PM
I just discovered Floyd's Barbershop here in CO. Pretty sure every girl there is a former model turned hipster hair stylist. So awesome.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: raquetcat on July 07, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
Junior's, it used to sit right next to where Kathouse is now, the guy smoked like crazy watched Jeopardy whenever it was on, but he was a good old school barber. Manhattan passed the no smoking inside businesses law so he just packed up shop and quit the biz, what a badass  :gocho:

He cut my hair from the time I was 3 until I graduated, and I think the Collegian wrote an article about him a couple years ago
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2010, 05:24:01 PM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.


lol Randy from 1 to 10 on the gay scale is like a 1 1/2. Get out of Manhattan KS sometime. The guy used to be married and own a ranch in Montana. And FYI if you really want a quality hair cut from a barber find a gay dude

Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: KITNfury on July 07, 2010, 05:57:09 PM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.


lol Randy from 1 to 10 on the gay scale is like a 1 1/2. Get out of Manhattan KS sometime. The guy used to be married and own a ranch in Montana. And FYI if you really want a quality hair cut from a barber find a gay dude


I believe they like to be called hair stylists.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 07, 2010, 07:44:36 PM
Kevin who is in the 'Aggie hair shapers' building but is his own separate business.

Kevin is the king, he offered my buddies and I a free hot tub...  :pbj:
Did you decline!? Can I have it!?  :runaway:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 07, 2010, 08:07:20 PM
This is gonna sound bad, but seriously.  Go to Junction City.  Find a barber shop on the north end that's ran by a little Asian gal.  (there's a few around)  Spend five bucks and you'll get the best, fastest haircut you've ever had, all capped off with a massage. (shoulders and neck) 

Plus if you're a clippers guy, they typically use those vacuum clipper things so when you're done, there's no itchy neck.   :excited:

yeah. i go to sues. go there every 2-3 weeks. it's actually ten bucks but you are in and out in like three minutes. love them. used to go to roger for a long time. he's great. also, if you don't want to talk w/ him, then don't. he'll catch on after a while. i got haircuts from him where prob less than 10 words were exchanged. small talking barbers are the worst.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 07, 2010, 09:12:51 PM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.


lol Randy from 1 to 10 on the gay scale is like a 1 1/2. Get out of Manhattan KS sometime. The guy used to be married and own a ranch in Montana. And FYI if you really want a quality hair cut from a barber find a gay dude



Well, he's asked for my straight friends' numbers a lot. And had me turn around to see my new haircut (not a haircut I got from him). That's at least a 4. I have a lot of gay friends who aren't THAT gay.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Stupid Fitz on July 07, 2010, 09:49:58 PM
If Brian is still at Haynes Brian, if not Ira is good.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 07, 2010, 09:57:08 PM
If Brian is still at Haynes Brian, if not Ira is good.

if your def of good is a forty five minute haircut with thirty minutes of painful convo and ten minutes of cutting, then yeah...go to brian at haynes (if he's still there, doubtful).
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2010, 11:18:02 PM
I'm looking for a new barber here in town and wanted some suggestions.  I've heard Campus Hairstyling and Wildcat Barber Shop are good but I'm not sure who to ask for there.

My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.



Randy at Wildcat Barber is the best, and a good guy. Has a lot of traveling advice as well.

Yeah, he's good if you like being hit on the entire time.


lol Randy from 1 to 10 on the gay scale is like a 1 1/2. Get out of Manhattan KS sometime. The guy used to be married and own a ranch in Montana. And FYI if you really want a quality hair cut from a barber find a gay dude



Well, he's asked for my straight friends' numbers a lot. And had me turn around to see my new haircut (not a haircut I got from him). That's at least a 4. I have a lot of gay friends who aren't THAT gay.

He probably asks to see haircuts a lot i'd imagine. the number thing, yeah little more gay sounding. my buddy swears he's straight and he's seen him hooking up with girls at the bar. dunno but he cuts good hair
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 08, 2010, 09:15:56 AM
Anyone remember Roches(sp)?
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 08, 2010, 10:09:29 AM
My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.

Describe better both your simple haircut and the ways it's been screwed up.

It's generally a #2 on the side and somewhere around a #6 on top but most just use clippers for that.  The person before my last barber would use clippers and after the haircut I'd notice that some pieces of hair would be a lot longer than others which drove me insane.  By the time I needed to get a haircut again, I'd have some places where my hair was 4 inches long and other spots where it was 2 inches long on top. 

My last guy was great, but I continually told him to keep it low in the back on my neck and he keeps cutting it really high.  Doesn't sound like a big deal, but it looks pretty bad from what I'm told.  I put up with it for a long time because the guy is an EMAW, but my wedding is this Saturday so I can't risk it.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I'm going to try to get in with somebody today so I'll let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: bonercat on July 08, 2010, 10:18:07 AM
Not sure if its still there, but I went to a shop right next door to Kites a couple of years ago. They had porn mags available to peruse while getting your hair cut. This made it weird when a mom brought her son in for a haircut and there were magazines on the wall for his review. Quite odd, but amazing at the same time.

Personally, I haven't paid for a haircut for over 2 years now thanks to my roommate's Flowbee

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fchethondo.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F09%2Fflowbee.jpg&hash=2ee9fb7e785a1abd068a492a44e2894711899446)
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Trim on July 08, 2010, 10:41:39 AM
My haircut is about as simple as it gets but it's really surprising how badly people can screw it up.

Describe better both your simple haircut and the ways it's been screwed up.

It's generally a #2 on the side and somewhere around a #6 on top but most just use clippers for that.  The person before my last barber would use clippers and after the haircut I'd notice that some pieces of hair would be a lot longer than others which drove me insane.  By the time I needed to get a haircut again, I'd have some places where my hair was 4 inches long and other spots where it was 2 inches long on top. 

My last guy was great, but I continually told him to keep it low in the back on my neck and he keeps cutting it really high.  Doesn't sound like a big deal, but it looks pretty bad from what I'm told.  I put up with it for a long time because the guy is an EMAW, but my wedding is this Saturday so I can't risk it.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I'm going to try to get in with somebody today so I'll let you know how it goes.

:surprised:

Mrs. Hound?
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 08, 2010, 11:05:24 AM


:surprised:

Mrs. Hound?

I'll have to inform her that's her new nickname.  I'm sure she'll be thrilled, especially since she's unfamiliar with my seedy past on a lesser website.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Trim on July 08, 2010, 11:08:14 AM


:surprised:

Mrs. Hound?

I'll have to inform her that's her new nickname.  I'm sure she'll be thrilled, especially since she's unfamiliar with my seedy past on a lesser website.

Yeah, you better fill her in quick.  I'm having rd erect a "Congrats Mr. & Mrs. Hound" sign in your 'hood Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 08, 2010, 01:50:27 PM

Yeah, you better fill her in quick.  I'm having rd erect a "Congrats Mr. & Mrs. Hound" sign in your 'hood Saturday afternoon.

If I came home and saw that, it would almost make getting married worth it.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 17, 2010, 10:36:44 AM
Forgot to update this thread,

Roger at Campus was great.  Listened to what I needed, and was excited to be cutting my hair for the wedding.  Hair was looking good and I'm very glad I made the switch.  He really didn't talk too much like some people seemed to be bothered by, maybe he was just concentrating more than usual.

Wedding went well.  It was very EMAW so I'll post some of the more EMAWish pictures when I get them back.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Trim on July 17, 2010, 10:48:09 AM
How'd rd do on the sign?
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 17, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
How'd rd do on the sign?

I was all excited to see it, then it wasn't there so I got some spare drywall and karate chopped it.  Then I remembered he probably just wrote it in invisible ink on my driveway.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Trim on July 17, 2010, 11:02:17 AM
How'd rd do on the sign?

I was all excited to see it, then it wasn't there so I got some spare drywall and karate chopped it.  Then I remembered he probably just wrote it in invisible ink on my driveway.

Hmm, that's disappointing.  Maybe this can be rectified at UCLAPak.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Kat Kid on July 17, 2010, 11:02:51 AM
Oh by the way, just go to Crimpers and get ladies to cut your hair.  Convos are better, they treat you with dignity and they have lady hands, not awkward old man hands.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 17, 2010, 01:30:50 PM
I had to go to a replacement barber while mine was out of town a couple weeks ago.  Dude gave me the most awkward shoulder and neck rub imaginable.  You could tell that neither one of us was enjoying it, especially since we were all alone in the barbershop at the time.
 :confused: :embarrassed: :dunno:

 
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: j-von on July 18, 2010, 02:05:34 AM
I had to go to a replacement barber while mine was out of town a couple weeks ago.  Dude gave me the most awkward shoulder and neck rub imaginable.  You could tell that neither one of us was enjoying it, especially since we were all alone in the barbershop at the time.
 :confused: :embarrassed: :dunno:

Where the hell did a guy give you a neck and shoulder rub?  Did you ask for it, or did he just start doing it?

Quote from: Trim
Hmm, that's disappointing.  Maybe this can be rectified at UCLAPak.

I'll be having a pretty big UCLAPak at my house with a bunch of people that have no idea what a Pak is, so if anybody is in the neighborhood feel free to stop by the driveway.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Kat Kid on July 18, 2010, 08:35:26 AM
I had to go to a replacement barber while mine was out of town a couple weeks ago.  Dude gave me the most awkward shoulder and neck rub imaginable.  You could tell that neither one of us was enjoying it, especially since we were all alone in the barbershop at the time.
 :confused: :embarrassed: :dunno:

Where the hell did a guy give you a neck and shoulder rub?  Did you ask for it, or did he just start doing it?

Quote from: Trim
Hmm, that's disappointing.  Maybe this can be rectified at UCLAPak.

I'll be having a pretty big UCLAPak at my house with a bunch of people that have no idea what a Pak is, so if anybody is in the neighborhood feel free to stop by the driveway.

Yeah, we've got a porch and a driveway.  Driveway would be good for you.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: jtksu on July 18, 2010, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from:  J Vonfeldt
Where the hell did a guy give you a neck and shoulder rub?  Did you ask for it, or did he just start doing it?

Just part of his routine, I guess.  I sure as hell didn't ask for a rubdown.   He did it to the guy that got his hair cut right before me too.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 17, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Total EMAW stud Roger is retiring after 50 years. Tomorrow is his last day.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: TownieCat on October 17, 2014, 11:38:38 AM
Total EMAW stud Roger is retiring after 50 years. Tomorrow is his last day.

I started going to Dylan at Campus a few months ago. He'll do a great job replacing him.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 17, 2014, 11:48:07 AM
I've never paid for a haircut in my life and dont plan to until momERiI dies. 
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: TownieCat on October 17, 2014, 11:50:52 AM
I've never paid for a haircut in my life and dont plan to until momERiI dies.

It's very obvious that you have never paid for a haircut.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Phil Titola on October 17, 2014, 11:52:05 AM
Total EMAW stud Roger is retiring after 50 years. Tomorrow is his last day.
End of an era.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 17, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
I've never paid for a haircut in my life and dont plan to until momERiI dies.

It's very obvious that you have never paid for a haircut.
I have the 2nd best head of hair on this blog. Obviously Pete is numero uno.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: TownieCat on October 17, 2014, 11:56:21 AM
I've never paid for a haircut in my life and dont plan to until momERiI dies.

It's very obvious that you have never paid for a haircut.
I have the 2nd best head of hair on this blog. Obviously Pete is numero uno.

You must not have been there the night lib7 didn't wear a hat  :love:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 17, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
Total EMAW stud Roger is retiring after 50 years. Tomorrow is his last day.

Go to Kevin. I'll give you the run down tonight while we imbibe.
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 17, 2014, 12:49:24 PM
I've never paid for a haircut in my life and dont plan to until momERiI dies.

It's very obvious that you have never paid for a haircut.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Best Barber In Manhattan
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on October 17, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
Total EMAW stud Roger is retiring after 50 years. Tomorrow is his last day.

Go to Kevin. I'll give you the run down tonight while we imbibe.

as i mentioned earlier i used to go to kevin when i was in mhk. if you recall, i have awesome hair.