One tease: Nick Russell isn't going anywhere. Staff loves him. He can shoot it, and he might even start this year...
Dude has a sweet gut. Hung out with Figgs. Good times.
One tease: Nick Russell isn't going anywhere. Staff loves him. He can shoot it, and he might even start this year...
Dude has a sweet gut. Hung out with Figgs. Good times.
One tease: Nick Russell isn't going anywhere. Staff loves him. He can shoot it, and he might even start this year...
JFC, Jeff is bopping around Houston on a separate gig and is still out in front on EMAW news. :bball:
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
only return 2 starters. have to find someone to fill those spots; russel's resume isn't that much worse than the other options at PG: irving, myles, spradling etc.
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
only return 2 starters. have to find someone to fill those spots; russel's resume isn't that much worse than the other options at PG: irving, myles, spradling etc.
I'm guessing he doesn't play PG for us ever
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
only return 2 starters. have to find someone to fill those spots; russel's resume isn't that much worse than the other options at PG: irving, myles, spradling etc.
I'm guessing he doesn't play PG for us ever
he hasn't already?
SF: McGruder (can he play SF?)
With Frank liking the two combo guard lineup, I could see Nick potentially starting this year. I think he's very talented but wasn't aggressive enough last year and very raw. He should make huge strides this year.
PG: Pullen
SG: Nick
SF: McGruder (can he play SF?)
PF: Kelly
C: Asprilla
Nick sucked on D last year.So did Jake his frosh year
Nick sucked on D last year.So did Jake his frosh year
Nick sucked on D last year.
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
only return 2 starters. have to find someone to fill those spots; russel's resume isn't that much worse than the other options at PG: irving, myles, spradling etc.
I'm guessing he doesn't play PG for us ever
he hasn't already?
again (if he has) :dunno:
Quote from JMart posted on the other board:
Dude, it's like Denis played physical ball. And Greenie has put muscle on every other player he has had, so I don't see why Nick should be the exception.
from that jackass CNS CaseyQuoteQuote from JMart posted on the other board:
from that jackass CNS CaseyQuoteQuote from JMart posted on the other board:
What a jackass! :curse:
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
What's wrong with Irving? IMO, he played his role fine last year. Quick, physical defender who can knock down an open shot on the perimeter. Solid bench player who provides depth. I mean, he certainly shouldn't start, but he's a pretty decent role player. Doesn't hurt us when he's out there. :dunno:
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
What's wrong with Irving? IMO, he played his role fine last year. Quick, physical defender who can knock down an open shot on the perimeter. Solid bench player who provides depth. I mean, he certainly shouldn't start, but he's a pretty decent role player. Doesn't hurt us when he's out there. :dunno:
My only problem with Irving is that he uses up a scholly that we could have used on a more elite player, assuming we had a more elite player to use it on, which we apparently didn't, since we used the scholly on Irving, so i guess I don't really have a problem with Irving after all. :D
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
What's wrong with Irving? IMO, he played his role fine last year. Quick, physical defender who can knock down an open shot on the perimeter. Solid bench player who provides depth. I mean, he certainly shouldn't start, but he's a pretty decent role player. Doesn't hurt us when he's out there. :dunno:
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
What's wrong with Irving? IMO, he played his role fine last year. Quick, physical defender who can knock down an open shot on the perimeter. Solid bench player who provides depth. I mean, he certainly shouldn't start, but he's a pretty decent role player. Doesn't hurt us when he's out there. :dunno:
He cannot hit an open shot anywhere and can't handle the ball for sh*t. He hurts us a ton on offense. Thankfully, he didn't play enough to be exposed much on defense.
So, I guess if his role was "sh*tty bench player" then I agree that he filled his role well.
Asprilla starting? If wally gets his confidence up, sky is the limit. And Nick- I really don't know. Jus get rid of Martavious "taysongz" Irving.
What's wrong with Irving? IMO, he played his role fine last year. Quick, physical defender who can knock down an open shot on the perimeter. Solid bench player who provides depth. I mean, he certainly shouldn't start, but he's a pretty decent role player. Doesn't hurt us when he's out there. :dunno:
He cannot hit an open shot anywhere and can't handle the ball for sh*t. He hurts us a ton on offense. Thankfully, he didn't play enough to be exposed much on defense.
So, I guess if his role was "sh*tty bench player" then I agree that he filled his role well.
Please see my "blame Hill for not getting a more elite player, not Irving, who never claimed to be elite" post.
Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
Quote from: JMart link=topic=4705.msg96489#msg96489 date=Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
I'm not expecting astounding numbers, I'm expecting non-suckage. Jamar and Dom both provided that as freshmen. Wally kind of sucked, but you could always clearly see the potential.
I'm all for Nick getting out there. I think he'll do fine. I see more potential than Martav.
Quote from: michigancat link=topic=4705.msg96492#msg96492 date=Quote from: JMart link=topic=4705.msg96489#msg96489 date=Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
I'm not expecting astounding numbers, I'm expecting non-suckage. Jamar and Dom both provided that as freshmen. Wally kind of sucked, but you could always clearly see the potential.
I'm all for Nick getting out there. I think he'll do fine. I see more potential than Martav.
I told Figgs they needed some 6-7 dude at the 3 who could shoot lights-out, and he kind of snapped at me. He was like, "We have guys who can do that. Rodney can do that. Nick can do that..." Later, he said there were times in practice last year that Nick was the best guard on the floor.
Quote from: michigancat link=topic=4705.msg96492#msg96492 date=Quote from: JMart link=topic=4705.msg96489#msg96489 date=Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
I'm not expecting astounding numbers, I'm expecting non-suckage. Jamar and Dom both provided that as freshmen. Wally kind of sucked, but you could always clearly see the potential.
I'm all for Nick getting out there. I think he'll do fine. I see more potential than Martav.
I told Figgs they needed some 6-7 dude at the 3 who could shoot lights-out, and he kind of snapped at me. He was like, "We have guys who can do that. Rodney can do that. Nick can do that..." Later, he said there were times in practice last year that Nick was the best guard on the floor.
Quote from: michigancat link=topic=4705.msg96492#msg96492 date=Quote from: JMart link=topic=4705.msg96489#msg96489 date=Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
I'm not expecting astounding numbers, I'm expecting non-suckage. Jamar and Dom both provided that as freshmen. Wally kind of sucked, but you could always clearly see the potential.
I'm all for Nick getting out there. I think he'll do fine. I see more potential than Martav.
I told Figgs they needed some 6-7 dude at the 3 who could shoot lights-out, and he kind of snapped at me. He was like, "We have guys who can do that. Rodney can do that. Nick can do that..." Later, he said there were times in practice last year that Nick was the best guard on the floor.
Yeah, when I told him we needed some 8 footer that weighed 500 lbs. he told me we had that already in Spradling
Quote from: michigancat link=topic=4705.msg96492#msg96492 date=Quote from: JMart link=topic=4705.msg96489#msg96489 date=Question - besides Mike and Bill, has any freshman come in and put up astounding numbers?
I'm not expecting astounding numbers, I'm expecting non-suckage. Jamar and Dom both provided that as freshmen. Wally kind of sucked, but you could always clearly see the potential.
I'm all for Nick getting out there. I think he'll do fine. I see more potential than Martav.
I told Figgs they needed some 6-7 dude at the 3 who could shoot lights-out, and he kind of snapped at me. He was like, "We have guys who can do that. Rodney can do that. Nick can do that..." Later, he said there were times in practice last year that Nick was the best guard on the floor.
Yeah, when I told him we needed some 8 footer that weighed 500 lbs. he told me we had that already in Spradling
I don't get how he could be a potential starter. Dude hardly played last year. What am I not getting (besides super expando improvement)? :dunno:
only return 2 starters. have to find someone to fill those spots; russel's resume isn't that much worse than the other options at PG: irving, myles, spradling etc.
I'm guessing he doesn't play PG for us ever
he hasn't already?
again (if he has) :dunno:
I'm no Phil Wooden, but I'm just not seeing a difference between the 1 and the 2 in Franks offensive system. Hell it's sometimes hard to distinguish the 1, 2 and 3. I think Nick will be adequate as a guard, regardless of what number you put in front of it.
If Nick starts getting some confidence, he should be fine. If Wally starts getting confidant, he could be really good.
If Nick starts getting some confidence, he should be fine. If Wally starts getting confidant, he could be really good.
Maybe their confidence is fine, they were just freshmen on a stacked elite 8 team.
If you're in the E8, you're pretty stacked.
If our roster was playing for another conference school, you would readily call that team "pretty stacked." Dude, 2nd in the Big 12+E8= Pretty stacked.We aren't that stacked. tee hee hee
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
The closest to being "stacked" we came wer at the 3-5 spots. Not at guard.
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.
Was Duke stacked? They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked? They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.
Do you know what role players are? Every player isn't going to be a star. Those players were not asked to score at crucial times, Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy. All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.
dumbasses
The closest to being "stacked" we came wer at the 3-5 spots. Not at guard.
3/4 maybe. We were paper thin at the 5. I count CK as a 4. That leaves Lu and JH-R. And IMHO, Wally shouldn't be shackled at the 5. You know, come to think of it, I hate all these numbered designations. In Frank's offense, there are guards and bigs. Good enought for me.
:thumbsup:
MIR, with the KO!
MIR, with the KO!
Really? How so? Because he called everybody "dumbasses"? We're really not that far apart on our opinions here. I disagreed with the term "stacked". Semantics, really. IMO we were carried by our guards, until CK started putting it together. We did have talent, aside from Lu, Energy, 'Tay (who I value as a role player). We were not really that deep. We had talent, but not experienced talent. That changes this year. I look to see improvement and consistency from Wally, Rodney, Nick and Jam-Sam. JH-R might be able to contribute minutes and I also think Freddy will be a major contributer (if he gets in shape). 'Tay will probably be about the same and Nino will contribute in spurts. Anything out of the other freshmen will be icing. This year's team more closely follows the "stacked" tag. The only holes I see are FT shooting and cosistent shooting. I think we will miss Dom's tenacity, defense and rebounding. Overall I am :ksu: for '10-'11.
eff, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
shazbot!, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
http://kenpom.com/height.php?s=ExpRank
We had the 159th oldest team in the nation
shazbot!, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
http://kenpom.com/height.php?s=ExpRank
We had the 159th oldest team in the nation
Chi, holiday inn vs hampton???
shazbot!, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
http://kenpom.com/height.php?s=ExpRank
We had the 159th oldest team in the nation
Chi, holiday inn vs hampton???
:confused:
shazbot!, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
http://kenpom.com/height.php?s=ExpRank
We had the 159th oldest team in the nation
Chi, holiday inn vs hampton???
:confused:
our starting line-up and first guy off the bench were old as hell... and add in CK. we had a big frosh class but minutes-wise we were old.
JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather. :flush: Not all role players suck equally.Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.
Was Duke stacked? They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked? They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.
Do you know what role players are? Every player isn't going to be a star. Those players were not asked to score at crucial times, Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy. All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.
dumbasses
Really? How so? We're really not that far apart on our opinions here....
We had two of the best guards in the country. Period. We weren't deep at that spot.
JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather. :flush: Not all role players suck equally.Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.
Was Duke stacked? They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked? They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.
Do you know what role players are? Every player isn't going to be a star. Those players were not asked to score at crucial times, Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy. All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.
dumbasses
JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather. :flush: Not all role players suck equally.Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked. Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.
Colon started... and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake. We were NOT stacked.
I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.
Was Duke stacked? They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked? They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.
Do you know what role players are? Every player isn't going to be a star. Those players were not asked to score at crucial times, Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy. All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.
dumbasses
yeah, don't understand that one. or even he ku comparo. i'd have sucked off a stranger to have brady or tyrel instead of irving or energy. or wellington smith instead of colon. Denis, Pulls, Sutton, Kelly, Colon w/Sams as the 6th man & Judge getting minutes later in the year ...that is/was pretty good. And now next year we lose 3 of those 7.
last year's ksu men's basketball team had the most stacked ksu men's basketball team since ___________ ?
1988. relative to the little college basketball emaw has witnessed in their lifetime i can see why people think last year's team was stacked. lu colon doesn't start for any 'stacked' team
last year's ksu men's basketball team had the most stacked ksu men's basketball team since ___________ ?
1988. relative to the little college basketball emaw has witnessed in their lifetime i can see why people think last year's team was stacked. lu colon doesn't start for any 'stacked' team
Was 1988 really that stacked?
shazbot!, tough crowd to please
everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat. we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.
http://kenpom.com/height.php?s=ExpRank
We had the 159th oldest team in the nation
Chi, holiday inn vs hampton???
:confused:
our starting line-up and first guy off the bench were old as hell... and add in CK. we had a big frosh class but minutes-wise we were old.
I just wanted to be a dick
Zoubek shouldn't have been included, although if he played for KSU we would have idiot fans complaining about his lack of scoring.
Zoubek shouldn't have been included, although if he played for KSU we would have idiot fans complaining about his lack of scoring.
No, I would beat them into submission w/ his insane rebounding stats and 63% FG%. They wouldn't complain for long. You really gave pretty horrible examples all around.
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
WTF
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
WTF
judge, pullen, kelly, samuels, clems, mcgruder
i think they could all see a cup of coffee.
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
I count 2, maybe 3 that will be drafted, probably 0 that will start or play sig minutes in the league.
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year. thats pretty stacked.
WTF
judge, pullen, kelly, samuels, clems, mcgruder
i think they could all see a cup of coffee.
Are you berk54 of goEMAW's hoops twitter/status/wall thread fame?